New 510, First impressions

[Ehvam]

Just recieved my new 510. Let me say, first impression, that this is the best cigarette style yet. If it had any more vapor it would have to come with a mask. They are beautiful too, as for the manual button? Did it once and its already second nature. Draws like an analog, and let me tell you, I coughed when I hit it. You have to be careful with this thing! lol!
It also came with high juice, and I wish it hadn't because two hits and I'm ready to lie down.
I love this thing!

 

[Tori]

it is pure awesomeness isn't it?? I adore mine! Cut your liquid maybe so it isn't too strong

 

[UptownRiot]

Do either of you use other devices? I am curious about the amount of liquid held, the burn rate of that liquid in the 510 as compared to the 801 and 901.

 

[Ehvam]

Well I have a RN4081, and its been really good. Good hits, reliable, long battery life...
But the drawback is inconsistent hits, and the auto battery cut-off which lowered vapor production and throat hit.

The 510, honestly, I can't say how long anything lasts yet because I'm still realing from the 20 ml hits. lol. I will post again as I notice cart life, etc...
and after I cut this liquid. lol

 

[UptownRiot]

Ehvam, I too have an RN4081, its the only unit I have presently. And I've also found when it's working it's very satisfactory. I still am finding it WAY too inconsistent to allow me to switch from analogs permanently. I've been looking into some mods, and I'm trying to decide on which atty to use with the mods, the 510/801/901 are the main choices I'm seeing which is why I'm curious.

 

[Ehvam]

I'd say the 510 and the RN are great compliments to each other.... The battery life of the RN makes it good for your all around vaping/needing something to do moments. The 510 is what I would want to have when I NEED a fix of nic.
Of course, with a PCC the 510 will last all day, and you wouldn't need the RN. But the 510 is almost too much. lol. For me at least.
Also, I drip into RN, and so I always get a consistent hit nowadays.
I just did a side by side comparison, dripping into the 510 and the RN with the same juice..
The RN hits mellower, a bit more flavor. The 510 has a little less flavor, but a great throat hit..
My suggestion- and thats it is- is go with a 510. It'll take care of a nic fit alright.

 

[UptownRiot]

I definitely need a better nic hit. But at the moment I'm hitting prefilled carts that are only 18mg. The fluid I just bought is 24mg, so I'm thinking/hoping that will do a better job. Otherwise I'm hopping up to the 36mg.

I've just been reading about some attys being real juice hogs, and so I want to make sure I make the most economical choice while keeping my own usage satisfaction in mind.

 

[Ehvam]

Nic strength is a double edge sword. I thought raising my nic level was going to do it for me at first with the RN, so I went higher juice- ended with headaches and feeling lousy. Yet lower juice made me want to hit all the time. So I did this.
I dropped the cart.. I got med and high strength juice and mixed them together for about 16 strength, I also added a little VG to the mix for more vapor, which brought it all down to about 14-15 strength. By dripping on the atty on my RN, no cart, I am getting great hits, good nic satisfaction, lots of vapor (for some reason you need vapor to feel satisfied)
In combo, that kept me analog free and HAPPY about it. As for taking too much juice, I got to say, the difference is minimal. I actually think I was using less juice by dripping on to the atty. About 2ml a day at most.
It takes a bit of experimenting to see what works for you. Everybody is different.

 

[DC2]

I just did a side by side comparison, dripping into the 510 and the RN with the same juice..
The RN hits mellower, a bit more flavor. The 510 has a little less flavor, but a great throat hit.

I have the RN4081 and the 510 also, and you hit the nail on the head here.
However, I did get a 306A atomizer (exposed) from dripping/dipping using my 510 manual battery.

All I can say about how that is working is that I am shipping my RN4081 off to my sister.
And yes, I really did like the RN4081 for dripping after boring out the mouthpiece.

 

[DC2]

I've just been reading about some attys being real juice hogs, and so I want to make sure I make the most economical choice while keeping my own usage satisfaction in mind.

I would think it isn't the atomizer that makes anything a juice hog.
For instance, with the 510 I think it is because of the manual battery.

I think the tradeoff is more vapor equals more juice used.

 

[UptownRiot]

Well it would seem to me that if it's producing more vapor, then i'll need to take fewer hits, and so I'll use the right amount of juice? I suppose as far as I was thinking about "juice hogs" More juice for an equal amount of vapor is what I was thinking of.

 

[J.R.]

My 510 definitely goes through a cartridge faster than my 4081 but, IMO, it's a more-than-fair trade off...especially if you're looking for a solid nic hit.

And deadcat, the auto battery for the 510 still puts out alotta vapor as well.

 

[Kent C]

Well I have a RN4081, and its been really good. Good hits, reliable, long battery life...
But the drawback is inconsistent hits, and the auto battery cut-off which lowered vapor production and throat hit.

The 510, honestly, I can't say how long anything lasts yet because I'm still realing from the 20 ml hits. lol. I will post again as I notice cart life, etc...
and after I cut this liquid. lol

I have the same hardware (plus a more recent purchase of a JS) and the same experience, except that I could never get the RN4081 to perform consistently enough to consider it reliable. In fact, I just collected up the parts and will put it back in the box now. Thought of selling it, but really wouldn't feel good about it - perhaps I'll give it away.

The 510 is what changed me from smoking analogs and wan't trying to quit. I just enjoy vaping more. I'm smoking my higher nic juice (18-20mg) on the Janty Stick which tends to smooth it out some. The 8 to 16 juice runs well on the 510 - I smoked lights and ultra lights.

 

[Ehvam]

KentC- do you get more flavor, though, on the RN? I definitely notice it, but maybe its just my particular models (you know how variable these things all are) I think my RN will be my casual, mulling around the house unit. But more specifically, my flavor tester.
The 510, from what I can see after a few hours, is the most analog like experience yet. Definitely has the goods to get you off of analogs.
Damn, keep forgetting I have to reset my counter...

 

[Kent C]

KentC- do you get more flavor, though, on the RN? I definitely notice it, but maybe its just my particular models (you know how variable these things all are) I think my RN will be my casual, mulling around the house unit. But more specifically, my flavor tester.
The 510, from what I can see after a few hours, is the most analog like experience yet. Definitely has the goods to get you off of analogs.
Damn, keep forgetting I have to reset my counter...

Ehvam,

I specifically tested for taste after the issue was brought up many times here and I never noticed anything different. I'm particular on how I use the 510 - watch that I don't overheat the atomizer, etc. Frankly I could never get near the vapor with the RN so I can't really say that if I were able to get the volume of vapor with the RN that I get with the 510 - that perhaps there may be a difference in flavor intensity but with what I was able to get, I found no difference. And I'm not saying I never good a good vape with it, just never consistently reliable. There were many times the exhale produced little or nothing at all.

I still kept the RN nearby and try to find a routine that worked better but the thing that made me pack it up (besides that I don't like the taste of juice that much) was what you mentioned on the cutoff - just as I would be about to get a good vape going I'd see the blinking lights and while I didn't ever throw it across the room, the idea did pass through my head

 

[DC2]

I still kept the RN nearby and try to find a routine that worked better but the thing that made me pack it up (besides that I don't like the taste of juice that much) was what you mentioned on the cutoff - just as I would be about to get a good vape going I'd see the blinking lights and while I didn't ever throw it across the room, the idea did pass through my head

I struggled with the automatic RN4081 batteries a lot.
That is what made me go out and get my 510 model.

Having said that, don't pack in your RN4081 unless you have a better dripping option.
Because the RN4081 is actually REALLY good for dripping.

That wide atomizer bridge can easier take 4 or 5 drops.
I have yet to get a single drop of juice anywhere near my battery.

And the following changes to the RN4081 make for a very smooth draw and great flavor...
1) Remove the cartridge from the mouthpiece
2) Remove the little end cap from the mouthpiece
3) Bore out the inner hole of the mouthpiece to make it extra, extra wide

I have never gotten juice in my mouth with this arrangement.
And I no longer have to struggle with the automatic batteries for some reason.

The wide bridge on the RN4081 sucks up and holds a lot of juice.
And the modifications to the mouthpiece make for a really nice draw.

The flavors come through very well, too.
And it becomes a great dripping machine, especially useful for tasting new flavors.
But also really good for a measured analog type experience with an expected number of good hits.

 

[Kent C]

I struggled with the automatic RN4081 batteries a lot.
That is what made me go out and get my 510 model.

Having said that, don't pack in your RN4081 unless you have a better dripping option.
Because the RN4081 is actually REALLY good for dripping.

That wide atomizer bridge can easier take 4 or 5 drops.
I have yet to get a single drop of juice anywhere near my battery.

And the following changes to the RN4081 make for a very smooth draw and great flavor...
1) Remove the cartridge from the mouthpiece
2) Remove the little end cap from the mouthpiece
3) Bore out the inner hole of the mouthpiece to make it extra, extra wide

I have never gotten juice in my mouth with this arrangement.
And I no longer have to struggle with the automatic batteries for some reason.

The wide bridge on the RN4081 sucks up and holds a lot of juice.
And the modifications to the mouthpiece make for a really nice draw.

The flavors come through very well, too.
And it becomes a great dripping machine, especially useful for tasting new flavors.
But also really good for a measured analog type experience with an expected number of good hits.

Appreciate the ideas. And I'm going to try your suggestions - I had considered drilling out the hole a bit for dripping. I have dripped with the RN with not a lot of success, but now I'll try just that. I really don't care if I ruin the batteries at this point even though as you say it shouldn't be a problem.

Not sure what the 'extra cap' in the mouthpiece is but I'll find it. It's worth a shot. Thanks.

 

[Kent C]

I struggled with the automatic RN4081 batteries a lot.
That is what made me go out and get my 510 model.

Having said that, don't pack in your RN4081 unless you have a better dripping option.
Because the RN4081 is actually REALLY good for dripping.

That wide atomizer bridge can easier take 4 or 5 drops.
I have yet to get a single drop of juice anywhere near my battery.

And the following changes to the RN4081 make for a very smooth draw and great flavor...
1) Remove the cartridge from the mouthpiece
2) Remove the little end cap from the mouthpiece
3) Bore out the inner hole of the mouthpiece to make it extra, extra wide

.

There must be something else going on because that didn't work. I don't think the batteries are putting out enough juice to properly heat the attys or the attys are almost gone - not likely because I really didn't use them that much - 3 days and not much after I got the 510. That should have worked but didn't. The best I can get is if I go through about three times of the batt cutting out - because the atty is getting a bit hotter each time but then still not much vapor.

 

[Burnie]

I've been looking into some mods, and I'm trying to decide on which atty to use with the mods, the 510/801/901 are the main choices I'm seeing which is why I'm curious.

I would go with the 510 atty. JMHO
My mod that I am going to build is going to have interchangeable adapters, that way I can use different atty's, but the main one is going to be the 510 as I just ordered 20 of them

Burnie

 

[David Bruno]

Glad you like yours. I'm very happy with mine. With the PCC charger, its all you'll ever need.
Dave