I know it sounds weird and scientifically I guess it doesn't make much sense, seeing how the atomizer has to warm up to turn the ejuice into vapor in the first place...but the 510 I got today is my third ecig and the previous two, although far inferior, did give a warm vapor. My Joye 510 produces great vapor, throat hit, okay flavor (probably from the atomizer breaking in/primer etc.) but it is cool vapor, not warm. I can sometimes get it lukewarm, but that's about it. Out of curiosity I stuck on a cartomizer from a prior kit and got less vapor/TH but it was warm. I'm really confused...could the atomizer be bad, or breaking in, or is the battery not producing enough power to warm up the juice? I noticed the battery button barely clicks in and the light turns on and if I push really hard on it, the vapor will get lukewarm, but I feel like I am breaking the battery! BTW both batteries/atomizers give the same results. I have charged 8 hours etc. etc. and on a full freshly charged battery it is no warmer than an almost dead battery. Tried several juices and a prefilled cart and the only way I got even a little warmer was to use an old carto! Any ideas?
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Are your cartos higher in nicotine than your juices? Are they made with a larger proportion of propylene glycol vs. vegetable glycerine (I like 100% but will be trying 80%/20% soon) than your cartos?
Does the atomizer gurgle a lot suggesting that it's flooded?
There are many factors, but what you said about the battery does seem sketchy. You could possibly get a PassThrough to try or try new batteries / atomizers from elsewhere.
I got my first 510 kit recently from TastyVapor and am very pleased with it. It's not a genuine Joye kit, but works great so far and I'll be sticking with them as long as they sell these kits and parts.
They have atomizers on sale again after selling out recently, for $4...510 batteries for $6.
Does the atomizer gurgle a lot suggesting that it's flooded?
There are many factors, but what you said about the battery does seem sketchy. You could possibly get a PassThrough to try or try new batteries / atomizers from elsewhere.
I got my first 510 kit recently from TastyVapor and am very pleased with it. It's not a genuine Joye kit, but works great so far and I'll be sticking with them as long as they sell these kits and parts.
They have atomizers on sale again after selling out recently, for $4...510 batteries for $6.
Wow I'll have to hurry and stock up...those prices are great!!
No gurgling, and the carto was filled with the same stuff I have in my 510 atomizer/cartridge so same levels. The juices are PG but I added VG to see if it would help. With the batteries, they are both like that so I thought that was just how they are...this is my first manual so I'm thinking I must be doing something wrong!
No gurgling, and the carto was filled with the same stuff I have in my 510 atomizer/cartridge so same levels. The juices are PG but I added VG to see if it would help. With the batteries, they are both like that so I thought that was just how they are...this is my first manual so I'm thinking I must be doing something wrong!
cartos normally produce warmer vapor than atties of any kind and that's y I love my cartos sooooo much! some ppl prefer cooler vapor though!
I prefer the cartos too...I actually ordered a 510 mega battery and 10 empty cartos and am waiting for them to come...should be here Monday! Then I can use the atomizer as a backup or when I want cold vapor (heh)...just need to get through the weekend! Of course, with my luck by then they will be performing much better and it won't matter as much! 
I love my cartos. They do start out a little harsh. Once they have had a few draws they seem to mellow out.
510s do run cold on the vapor until theyre broken in - I find the same thing at 3.7 (3.1 on a normal battery) - they get much warmer on 5v (its not conencted to the heat of outside of the atty) PT and a little warmer on a 3.7v PT if youve been hitting it a lot.
Once you get going though its much warmer but if you stop and start you will find the vapor much cooler (I hope that wasn't as confusing as it seems reading it back...)
Once you get going though its much warmer but if you stop and start you will find the vapor much cooler (I hope that wasn't as confusing as it seems reading it back...)
lol...it actually did make sense. I don't know much yet about the different voltages...I'm pretty new to vaping so still learning! So would a 510 USB passthrough get a higher voltage or maybe supply or is the voltage the same for the 510 regardless of the plug? LOL sorry to be such a noob! This is so much bigger than I thought at first...my 15-year-old son actually told me about e-cigs in the first place and my first one was a Knight stick..simple 2-piece, and i had no idea it could get this complex!! Definitely fun to have something new to learn about though!!
I have noticed they do get warmer after a few puffs and cold again if I put it down for 10 minutes or so. So this will get better once it's broken in? Anything I should be doing to help the process along, other than blowing the extra juice out of the atty and keeping the threads clean?
I have noticed they do get warmer after a few puffs and cold again if I put it down for 10 minutes or so. So this will get better once it's broken in? Anything I should be doing to help the process along, other than blowing the extra juice out of the atty and keeping the threads clean?
As another feller pointed out, the break in period does make a difference for sure...I was a little put off by my 510 atty right off the bat but knew about break in and never thought about it after that, it just got better after a day or two. You can waste some pure VG or PG or a cheap OEM cartridge just running the battery for awhile, just keep the atty wet with a couple drops at a time and don't run it constantly. Maybe two full 10 second burns each 2 minutes
My battery buttons occasionally stick a little but I've gotten good about pushing them perfectly without thinking about it. If you favor either end of the button instead of hitting it dead center it can stick, but mine are easy to unstick and I just don't do it anymore.
I've never tried cartos but they sound interesting. I got a drip tip from TW and that seems to help me get warm substantial throat hits. TW menthol is delish too.
You could try carefully dripping and puffing right off the atomizer to get an idea whether a drip tip or modified shorter cart would help.
I'm a dripper for now but the cartos are intriguing and cheap enough to try. I'm also thinking of a straight (no battery inline) 5V passthrough soon...
If you still have 100 percent PG I'd keep trying that here and there; VG makes more vapor but is cooler. PG is a good heat transfer medium.
The PT actually puts out slighltly more than the normal batts - I think 3.4 or so for the inline PT and around 3.1v for the normal batts. You can also get a 5v PT (no inline batt) which obviously makes it warmer. The atty itself can go up to 6v but tends to blow out faster at 6 and almost right away at 7v lol. For those kind of powerhouses you need the HR atty which can take a beating (on a low v unit you can use an LR atty to simulate 5v vaping)
Nothing you can really do to hurry things along to get them broken in - and tbh not all attys need it, but some do. Blowing out and cleaning threads is good manintenance but it wont affect the temp of the vapor
That will come if you get higher voltage - or a PT which as I said will make it warmer.- Status
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