New 510 Soft Cap Cartos are Incredible!!

[Jay In PA]

Thought I'd pass on some info on these new cartomizers with a brief history.

Been analog free since Jan. 14 of this year. Strictly 510 stuff here. Started dripping about a month ago.

Okay, had some of the ones that Shawn had originally, the blanks with the glued on end caps. They were pretty darn good. Believe those were Boge.

As for the new ones, which I believe are SLB, OMG. These things darn near rival direct dripping in vapor production, and a little less in flavor. But still, just incredible. And they perform as soon as they are filled! Seems like no breaking in necessary. I have been using them with a drip tip. Initially about 25-30 drops, then when flavor drops off, add about 4-6 drops and keep on going. No mess, no leaking, just performance.

Here are some differences I noticed. The original glued on caps have an aluminum fitting, and the new soft caps have a brass fitting. Probably the brass keeps the temp. up.

Also, when you look inside these things, on the original glued on ones, you could see the top of the coil. On the new soft caps, the coil seems to be covered by batting. I believe this is why I seem to get less flooding on the new soft cap cartos.

Oh, one other thing, I believe the Boge with aluminum fitting now come with a soft removable cap also. Wonder how they perform and how they look inside as far as the coil being partially exposed or covered with batting.

So, Shawn, ya done good, really good, again. Hope you don't switch brands.

 

[WitchWay]

The SLB cartos do not have the same straight wire assembly inside as the Boge do. I've taken both new and used SLB cartos all the way apart. This is a pic of a new one taken apart to show how it is made. I believe this design makes a huge difference and I love these cartos, but that's just my opinion

Happy vaping!!

 

[cos]

are these the 510 cartomizers listed on the site for 7.95? and they are much better than the 1st batch Shawn ordered? have to know so i can order Thanks for info

 

[WitchWay]

I have both kinds from Shawn. I just received the SLB 510s on Monday but have been using the same ones from another vender for about a month now. I like them better, of course that's just my opinion To me they have more flavor and vapor plus for me they seem to be more burn resistant. I've always had problems using cartos, I seem to burn them easily, but I've had much better luck with these. Personally I feel it's the different build that makes them better. Others have reported differently. So it's the old YMMV thing. Ok I know that's not much help but that's my

 

[shawnp1]

i also now have the boge ones with soft caps, they will be added to the site roughly tuesday of next week once i get back and caught up.

 

[WitchWay]

Shawn you are suppose to be taking time off and relaxing

 

[shawnp1]

i still am away an taking time off but i still like to keep in touch also

 

[MacDiver]

Witchway, thanks for the info and nice pics.

Can you pull the cover off the wire coil so we can see how its constructed under it? Or can you tell us if the wires on both sides heat up?

I was a little agravated that they have no .... plug. I like to refill my cartos by dripping 10-15 drops into the top along the sides of the barrel with the plug in and one of the condoms over it. I then let it sit for 30 min or so to soak in. I tried it without the plug and some leaked out into the condom. No juice leaks out with a plug in it.

 

[Sarlen]

I picked up some of these softcap cartos and my first impression was I loved them. Flavor is a little less then I'm use to be still great. After a few days (as short as 12ish hours) it gets to the point that it tastes like somethings burning/chemical taste even when I have recently topped off, so I add 6 to 8 drops and it goes away for a puff or two then its back. At that point I cant add any more juice without flooding it. Not sure what I'm doing wrong with them, hopefully it works it self out, or Ill have to use them for only a day or two before I toss them.

 

[WitchWay]

Witchway, thanks for the info and nice pics.

Can you pull the cover off the wire coil so we can see how its constructed under it? Or can you tell us if the wires on both sides heat up?

I was a little agravated that they have no .... plug. I like to refill my cartos by dripping 10-15 drops into the top along the sides of the barrel with the plug in and one of the condoms over it. I then let it sit for 30 min or so to soak in. I tried it without the plug and some leaked out into the condom. No juice leaks out with a plug in it.

My pleasure, I have lots of pics LOL

I have not seen any signs when taking them apart that the blue wires heat up, only the coil looks to heat. The tube leads down into an air chamber. If you are getting juice out the bottom you are probably over filling it and the juice is going down that tube. Less is more in this case. They preform much better if they are not over filled and you do not get juice down into the air chamber. Only time I've had juice out the bottom is when I over fill them.

I picked up some of these softcap cartos and my first impression was I loved them. Flavor is a little less then I'm use to be still great. After a few days (as short as 12ish hours) it gets to the point that it tastes like somethings burning/chemical taste even when I have recently topped off, so I add 6 to 8 drops and it goes away for a puff or two then its back. At that point I cant add any more juice without flooding it. Not sure what I'm doing wrong with them, hopefully it works it self out, or Ill have to use them for only a day or two before I toss them.

If you are getting that taste then chances are you burnt the carto and the only thing to do is toss it and get out a new one. They are more burn resistant than any other carto I have tried, but they are not burn proof. If you vape too fast, take long hits or use higher voltage they will burn more easily. They need at least a little time to wick, the harder you use them the more time it takes to wick. They may have plenty of juice but if it doesn't have time to get to the coil they will burn. I burned one the other day. It takes practice to use them right and not burn them.

Any time you put a hot coil with material wrapped closely around it, sooner or later it will burn. If you keep them wet, but not over filled and do not use higher voltage and chain vape heavily then they will not burn as easily. I keep two in rotation so I don't over heat them and let them have time to wick. Three hits off one, then three hits off the other. Hope this helps!


Happy Vaping!

EDIT: These are the SLB 510 cartos with the gold threads. The Boge 510 cartos with the silver threads are different inside.

 

[MacDiver]

Now before this starts to sound like a neg on Shawn, it's not. It's the manufactuer. Shawn is my main supplier and I've bought quite a bit of stuff from him in the last few months.

But these new ones suk. They are burning because in the pic it appears they heat only in the area where the top of the coil is so when that area gets dry, even though there is plenty of juice in the carto, it burns.

I've been using 808s with an adapter on my Ego for several months until the soft cap 510s came out. The 808s I've used, Shawn's hard caps, and other 510s I've seen have had the wire that ran the length of the carto and was crooked at the mouthpeice end at the end of the batting. Those heat evenly up the wire so not just in one place. When new and fully filled they work great. Then I guess they get really hot right at the top and burn.

I was wondering why these were burning so fast even though I keep them topped off all the time. I won't be getting any more of these. It's a really poor design.

 

[WitchWay]

I don't doubt you Mac, it just shows how people vape differently and have different out comes. I have the complete opposite experience. I burn all the 808s and the Boge 510s very quickly but the SLB 510s I can use for days with no problems. For me this design is much better. It must have to do with different vaping styles. Everybody just has to find what works for them

 

[MacDiver]

Well, It would seem to be a matter of function. How could the liquid be pulled up to the coil from that far away? It would seem then that there is an area of liquid in the batting that never gets used and just sits there while the top part dries out and burns.

 

[VaporPhreak]

Im not sure on the physics of the matter Mac, but my experience has been similar to WitchWay's. I always burnt up a 808 and hard cap 510 cartos in a matter of a couple days at most if I was lucky. But these seem to be doing MUCH better for me.
Personally I think they just taste... cleaner? I dunno, but the old ones always had an odd taste and smell to them when they first got unwrapped. I usually had to air them out for a few hours before use, but these are not that way at all.

Happy Vaping All!

 

[five]

Just got my first order of soft-cap cartos, and they're pretty nice! Among other things, I like the wider mouthhole, I might go with a driptip if I don't switch to these completely

 

[5th Element]

just got the 510 soft top cartos. like em. i put a drip tip on em too ;P

 

[Danyulc]

What purpose does the drip tip serve? It just allows you to avoid touching the carto to your lips?

Just wondering because I bought a 5-pack of both kinds to try out and see what I like. Unfortunately I'm juiceless atm, so I won't be able to use them for another day or two. 36 hours if you want to get all technical, lol.

One generic Carto question as well... When filling my first carto would it be better to err on the side of caution and underfill it intially? Or would it be safer to overfill it? Obviously I'll try to get it just right, but, I've got a feeling at least a couple mistakes will be made, lol.

-Danyulc

 

[MacDiver]

The drip tip allows you to just discard the white cap. I pull my drip tip off to top off my cartos. Five or 6 drops down the sides of the barrel while slowly turning it helps to keep the area around the coil wet. The tip also has a much nicer feel in your mouth than the carto tip.

I now refill a carto by dripping 10-15 drops through the threaded end and another 10 or so down the sides of the barrel with a condom on it and let it sit for 20-30 min.

 

[Danyulc]

Thanks for the reply MacDiver! My juice arrived this morning, 24 hours earlier than I expected! I haven't tried it yet though.

Probably going to grab a drip tip in the near future, although gonna have to wait a week or two. The shock is less severe when you spread out the CC transactions over time I've learned, lol.

How heavy are the drip tips? I'd imagine they have a little weight to them, but, I suppose most of you hold the Ecig by the drip tip when using one?

I just realized they probably won't even work for my L88B anyway. Of course with a cartomizer on there, I guess it would work. That would potentially be a funky looking contraption though!

Anyways, much thanks!

-Danyulc

 

[MacDiver]

I googled the L88B. It appears that its what is commonly called an Eko? It looks like a Joye 510 in that it's shaped like a cigarette? The cartos should fit it if it's threaded the same as a 510. Most switch to the Ego or a mod for longer battery life. The drip tips have almost no weight to them.

The cartos are said to hold 30 drops. I don't put any more than that in a new one, even though they will hold more. If you overfill them, at least on a refill they sometimes become 'stuffy' and hard to pull air through.

hope this helps