New (again...I red-shirted) vape-er and my n00b experience

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Hi all! I was here about a year ago, but I failed to make the transition from analog to vaping. Well I'm back to try again, and it's going much better this time. I've only owned my vaping setup for 5 days, but even in that little amount of time I have learned a lot regarding the novice vaping transition, so I thought I'd post up. If this isnt' the right place for this, I apologize, but I looked around, and this seemed right.

WARNING: tl;dr - if you are new to Internet forums and don't know what that is, it's slang for "too long, didn't read" and is intended to warn the reader that a real blowhard is about to torture you with a very long post. So if you have a short attention span and see 'tl;dr' move on to another thread... :)

So, when I first tried vaping, like many people I thought the disposable ecigs would be good because some of them (njoy in particular) are the most cigarette-like as far as feel in your hand, and in your mouth. This is true to an extent, but they're expensive because they die quickly, and they don't generally taste very good. I found the experience lacking, and I failed to transition to vaping as a result.

Recently for an unknown reason I decided that I really wanted this, so I was going 'all in' as it were to attempt to transition away from analog cigs (for other n00bs out there, 'analogs' is what vapers call traditional tobacco cigarettes. Like many folks these days, there are many vape shops around my area, so I went in and asked for a lesson, and some advice as to what to buy to start out. I told the guy that while I wasn't afraid of spending a few dollars, I didn't want to go whole hog because I knew that as I learned and gained experience my tastes in gear etc would change and become increasingly sophisticated, and I didn't want to spend a bunch only to discover that I should have spent a bunch on other stuff.

He set me up with an Innokin itaste 1280 and an Aspire ET-S BDC tank, coming to about $50 with some ejuice. IMO this is a pretty solid n00b setup, as the vapor has a very 'pure' taste to it (I'm a menthol guy), the amount of vapor is copious compared to many other options in this price range. One thing that was different for me was that the draw is much easier than an analog, and this made it a bit difficult for me to feel like I was "smoking" as it were. And, having this feel was important to me (or so I thought) in my quest to keep cravings satisfied and get transitioned to full-time vaping.

But, I knew I needed time to get used to it, so I took the setup home. As I researched more while hanging around the house, I decided that I wanted a tank with an adjustable draw so that I could make it harder to 'suck' and therefore feel a little more cigarette-ish. I went to the shop the next day, and explained this. The same guy recommended the Aspire Nautilus Mini, which is a glass tank style jobber with an adjustable draw. I took this home and used it for a few days and it definitely did help with the 'feel' of vaping v. analog, which was cool.

However, the taste wasn't as good, and the vapor production wasn't as good either. So, after 3 days of using it, I just tonight went back to the ET-S BDC, and I like it a lot more. It is kinda rough to spend the $35 on the Nautilus Mini for a 3 day stretch, but I think that little time with the harder draw (but not as hard as an analog) in turn got me prepared to transition to the ET-S BDC easily, because now I have no problem at all with the easier draw, and am very satisfied (more-so than I was with the Nautilus Mini) when I vape with it.

Also, when I first started vaping this time around, I had trouble with a conflict between comfort of inhaling vapor, and not getting enough vapor, or enough 'hit' to be satsifying. What I mean is that if, with the easy-drawing ET-S, if I drew hard enough to get a satisfying feeling of taking a 'pull' I got so much vapor that it was uncomfortable to inhale for me. Conversely, if I took it easy to avoid that, I didn't feel like I was "smoking" if you know what I mean, and for me, feeling like I'm smoking is a part of this transition. The fix for this was the Nautilus Mini. Because a) the draw could be adjusted to be 'harder' and b) its vapor production isn't as good as the ET-S, it was a perfect combo; I could suck harder to feel like I was smoking in that sense, but not be overwhelmed by the volume or density of the vapor. Now, after a could of days of that, I can now strike a nice balance between the draw of the ET-S and the satisfying volume it creates, and I really like it a lot. In fact, I'm so happy with the result at this early stage that I'm happy to have bought all of those parts, even if the Nautilus only ever sees that 3 day usage, because it got me to where I needed to be.

Wow, if you're still reading, thanks for taking the time. Also if I've said anything in here that vets of vaping need to refute because I'm a dumbass, please feel free. In no way do I think I'm some sort of expert; these are just my observations.

Quick notes about my gear for anyone interested:

Innokin itaste 1280 - awesome. It's $30, or $35 as a kit with a lanyard and something else that I can't remember (I just got the stand-alone battery). It has pass-thru charging so you can plug it in to charge and vape simultaneously, it looks pretty cool, and at 1280 mah it has very strong battery life.

Aspire Nautilus Mini - $35 IIRC, and like I said, it did the job. If you really want to have adjustable draw, this is a great way to try it. It's not terribly expensive, the workmanship is top notch, and it works as you'd expect. When compared to the ET-S BDC it doesn't produce as much vapor, and (I think therefore, but might be separate issues) the vapor isn't as flavorful. That isn't to say that it's bad, it could be that the ET-S BDC is just new and way better; I'll defer to the experts here.

Aspire ET-S BDC - $9 Very impressive performance in my opinion for a $9 part. I think the reason for the higher vapor output is that it uses a dual-coil (still in one threaded piece) setup, where many others are single coil. Whatever the reason, I think this is a pretty good piece of kit. I know I'm a new fish, but it's hard to imagine anything else at this price performing better.
 

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I'm so glad you are giving vaping another chance. This just might the right time for you. I sure hope so and look forward to reading about your success and I enjoyed reading your post. I'm a sucker for happy ending
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You may come around to loving that Nauty after a while. It's a great little tank. If you end up liking a restricted lung hit, it's right up that alley. Also, it can kick out vapor with the best of them; airflow and vapor production are proportional.


I'm going to second this. I have two Aspire ET-S BDC's as well as a Nautilus and a Nautilus mini, both the Nautilus BVC's just put the ET-S to shame when it comes to flavor as well as vapor production. Out of curiosity, what ohm coil did you have in the Nautilus and the ET-S and what voltage setting were they at?
 

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hi there! I only started vaping full time recently (check my banner on my signature) I LOVE LOVE LOVE my mini nautilus, I love it because I can go from tight draw or total airy draw and I use a istick. It is all a learning curb, I use my stick and mini nauty most of the day but I still like to use my volt from smokeless image a little cigalike with my coffee as my first vape in the morning its got a tight draw on an auto battery and it feels like I havent lost my best friend that first smoke in the morning with my coffee. whatever floats your boat hey!!
 
Welcome back. If you're still looking for the cigarette draw, have you tried a carto? See Baditude's blog for carto info. I found them to draw more like a cig than a clearomizer, they have good flavor and vaper production. Then I switched back to a clearo, go figure.

I'm going to second this. I have two Aspire ET-S BDC's as well as a Nautilus and a Nautilus mini, both the Nautilus BVC's just put the ET-S to shame when it comes to flavor as well as vapor production. Out of curiosity, what ohm coil did you have in the Nautilus and the ET-S and what voltage setting were they at?

First of all, thanks to everyone who responded to my post. The support is great, and it's also great that so many people actually blasted through that wall of text :)

Ok, so regarding the above...I understand that the airflow restriction will also restrict vapor production. If I open my NM to its widest aperture, it still doesn't make as much vapor as my ET-S BDC does (although it isn't far off). Also I get more flavor with the BDC than I do the Nautilus Mini regardless of the setting. The voltage for both is set at 3.8, but I don't know anything about the coils...I just bought whatever was in there at the store. They didn't mention that there were options regarding the coils, and I didn't know to ask. Maybe the coil in the Nautilus Mini is different resistance than the one in teh ET-S BDC, and this is why I have the experience that I do. This is definitely possible.

Thanks for taking the time all!
 
hi there! I only started vaping full time recently (check my banner on my signature) I LOVE LOVE LOVE my mini nautilus, I love it because I can go from tight draw or total airy draw and I use a istick. It is all a learning curb, I use my stick and mini nauty most of the day but I still like to use my volt from smokeless image a little cigalike with my coffee as my first vape in the morning its got a tight draw on an auto battery and it feels like I havent lost my best friend that first smoke in the morning with my coffee. whatever floats your boat hey!!

Thanks! I skipped part of my vaping history in my OP. I bought a starter kit from BullSmoke that I still have that has the pre-filled cartomizers and a couple of auto-batteries that combine into a 'cigalike' that I still can use as well.
 
I got my first vape 3 days ago. I'm still getting used to drawing on it differently than a cig. I can't believe how well this thing has helped curb my cravings for smoking. I personally feel I get more nicotine if I inhale the vapor straight to my lungs. Best of luck to you, dietDrThunder!

Ya it's such a great tool for smoking cessation for sure. I have discovered something that helps me with cravings a huge amount, and that is to stick to my old smoking routine. Instead of just having my vape at hand all the time, I only use it (mostly) just like I used analogs. If I'm watching tv and I have a craving, I go outside, sit on my porch, and I vape for a few minutes while reading a book on my phone, mimicking what I did with analogs. If I'm playing cards with my buddies, when I have a craving I grab my vape and go to teh smoking room and vape there for a few, etc. When I am done doing it this way, I am fully satisfied.

Conversely, if I sit aroujnd at my desk (I work from home) and hit on the vape occasionally while I work, I _still_ get periodic cravings to smoke. This is because it's the habit that has the biggest hold on me, not the nicotine (obv, since I'm vaping the nic).

Anyway, thanks for posting!
 

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Welcome back, dietDrthunder; I dunno if I remember seeing any of your posts last year; I just got here Jan 24, and was very involved for a while with trying to find a "decent" cigalike -- got the eRoll -- and then started learning all the why's behind everything about it that I found unsatisfying, and got an iTaste vv3 --got it on my first full day smoke-free, in fact, and I'm sure that's why I was able to stick with smoke-free, till I had to have my appendix out in June, and everything went awry for a while.

I also learned to like a more airy draw than a cigarette, but I still prefer it much tighter than most; I keep my kayfun's airflow almost entirely closed, and it's still a looser draw than the other vape I keep handy, either a carto or cartotank. The lung hits are not for me, with my asthma, and mouth hits are what feel most familiar to me, so I'll keep with that.

Glad you made it back; hope it works out better for you this time! :thumb:

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dietDrThunder-

Welcome back and I think I speak for everyone currently sitting on my couch when I say "congrats for giving vaping another shot". Despite my adult ADHD (and despite your post truly being tl;dr), I was able to make it through your first post top-to-bottom.

Vape On and I'll see you on the threads.
 

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Ok, so regarding the above...I understand that the airflow restriction will also restrict vapor production. If I open my NM to its widest aperture, it still doesn't make as much vapor as my ET-S BDC does (although it isn't far off). Also I get more flavor with the BDC than I do the Nautilus Mini regardless of the setting. The voltage for both is set at 3.8, but I don't know anything about the coils...I just bought whatever was in there at the store. They didn't mention that there were options regarding the coils, and I didn't know to ask. Maybe the coil in the Nautilus Mini is different resistance than the one in teh ET-S BDC, and this is why I have the experience that I do. This is definitely possible.

From my own experience (your mileage may vary) I find my Nautilus and Mini Nautilus generally prefer higher wattage settings depending on what juice I have in the tank. One juice tastes best around 8 watts (3.8 volts with a 1.8 ohm coil) while another may be best around 10 watts (4.2 volts with a 1.8 ohm coil). I'd recommend trying the mini again with the various air hole settings at different settings to find that sweet spot.
 

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WARNING: tl;dr - if you are new to Internet forums and don't know what that is, it's slang for "too long, didn't read" and is intended to warn the reader that a real blowhard is about to torture you with a very long post. So if you have a short attention span and see 'tl;dr' move on to another thread...

I got as far as the 5th paragraph :p:p:p JUST KIDDING!!:p:p:p
I loved your warning and I'm thinking I should probably start posting a warning on my threads..and even replies as I have a tendency to ramble quite a bit.
I can't wait to play with my nautilus :blink: but I'm still waiting on my batteries to come (lol, yeah, that doesn't sound quite right no matter how I rephrase it)
I think I had read that you were having problems with a tight draw on your 'mini'..I'm not sure if the 'mini' is the same as the full sized Nautilus or not, but I know on mine, there is dial on the bottom below the glass tank that you can turn. It has 4 or so different holes to select from. I THINK if you play with those it may help adjust the 'draw'

So have you been able to quit smoking this time around or are you still transitioning from cigarettes to vaping?
Either way, from one rambler to another, I look forward to reading more of your long winded post :p :p :p (again, just kidding!!!)
 
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