New Cart Design - Advanced

[420GypsyGirl]

Ever since I got into vaping I, like many of you, have always thought these things could be made better. So I am trying to make a better one. I know a better one can be made. If we put our hearts and minds into it, we can do this.

OK. I am no engineer, but I think if I post this maybe an engineer will see it and say, "Hey K. Martin you might be onto something here."

The atty for a cig like this might need redesigned a bit as well and I am working on that, too. But this is what I have so far. No actual numbers, deminsions...I have those, but not on this quick drawing.

So here it is, my vision of a new cart design for an e-cig. Look it over and tell me what you think. If you like it, and think this is something that might work. Feel free to say as much. Please do not just rip my ideal off. Help me perfect it and we'll share in the development and all that it brings.

Pic removed by me. Looks like I found a builder for my prototype e-cig.

 

[dubnluvn]

I think its great. How do you fill it?

 

[Wireguy]

Pretty complicated design for the same brass screen mod that has been floating around here for a couple of years.

 

[420GypsyGirl]

The mesh is just fine enough that it'll hold the liquid via surface tension alone, but still allow for you to insert a needle and use a syringe right through the mesh. By using this method you could measure out the exact amount each time to refill it. I think a cart like this could last a long time if made right.

 

[420GypsyGirl]

Pretty complicated design for the same brass screen mod that has been floating around here for a couple of years.

Complicated, yes, but very doable. If a person had a little turning center and say a milling machine - this could be made.

 

[Wireguy]

Complicated wasn't my point. The design is a mash up of previously posted mods. Including the brass screen. You can't patent a design that has already been published.

 

[420GypsyGirl]

Complicated wasn't my point. The design is a mash up of previously posted mods. Including the brass screen. You can't patent a design that has already been published.

Can you link it? I didn't look at anyone elses designs before I came up with this. Is there a pic with theirs? Is it anything like mine?

 

[Sign-Man]

I'm reminded of the old game "Mouse Trap"

 

[Wireguy]

Yep, there are several like yours, I can't link them because they were of no interest to me so I didn't book mark them. There are many brass screen mods. As far as the rest there are a multitude of mods that hold the wicking material up to the atty. Springs, straws, paper clips, plastic strips and so on. Like I said mash up.

Can you link it? I didn't look at anyone elses designs before I came up with this. Is there a pic with theirs? Is it anything like mine?

 

[420GypsyGirl]

Complicated wasn't my point. The design is a mash up of previously posted mods. Including the brass screen. You can't patent a design that has already been published.

Did a search and found where somebody had used pipe screen and formed it with bic pen cap that he pushed into a cart. Is that what you are referring to? If so...that is not the same thing as this. That is just a wire mesh screen piece shoved into a cart. What I have done is design a cart with things I ahve never seen in one. Like springs, o-rings, and such. Show me on this website a previous post with something that looks like this please.

 

[Wireguy]

Go study patent law then get back.

 

[Lightgeoduck]

I'm reminded of the old game "Mouse Trap"

thats funny and brings me back

 

[Slyice]

It is very elaborate, but I have to agree that it sort of combines everyone else's ideas unfortunately (with a twist). Maybe somebody can see this and think of ways to make it work or expand on it. I'm assuming you don't have a functional model yet. I know there are a lot of people that are helpful here ... some nice .. some not so much.

Unfortunately, since you have posted this in a public forum, it is public domain. You won't be able to patent it (sorry). If you do want to patent something (which I think you have a decent idea here to get started), then you want to try it first, get the patent, then post it publicly. Patents take a long time to get, but if you have a patent pending design (it's been accepted by the patent office), you would be safe from others who come up with it also.

Keep up the ideas. I'm still floating between mods myself and can't figure out which one is working the best.

 

[martha1014]

Is this a disposable cart. Surely it can't be.

 

[420GypsyGirl]

Not disposable but refillable and reuseable. Save us monies!

OK so I too the other words off the drawing that people had an issue with. No bigggy. I just wish to see this become real. If someone out there wishes to use this design, then go for it. If you can take it and run with it...please do..just make e-cigs better!

I'll be posting the atty for this version shortly.

Seriously...if you or some you know wishes to put one of these things together and try it out...please do! If you think you can improve on this design..or have an ideal toss it out. I am on a quest, to create the perfect e-cig.

 

[TWalker]

Go study patent law then get back.

You keep on posting about a patent and I never saw her mention anything about
patents.

As a fabricator I can tell you focusing on patenting is way overblown. Patents are extremely time consuming and overvalued in the beginning stages of development. 90% of the time just be the first and best, market well and sell like hell. Don't give your idea away too early and come out selling strong and watch others try to catch up.

Ideally one would do that and have a patent but even when you do others will circumvent it by making minor changes and marketing a slightly different version of it themselves. You can then sue them assuming you have the money and you would win.

 

[Nunja Business]

You keep on posting about a patent and I never saw her mention anything about
patents.

As a fabricator I can tell you focusing on patenting is way overblown. Patents are extremely time consuming and overvalued in the beginning stages of development. 90% of the time just be the first and best, market well and sell like hell. Don't give your idea away too early and come out selling strong and watch others try to catch up.

Ideally one would do that and have a patent but even when you do others will circumvent it by making minor changes and marketing a slightly different version of it themselves. You can then sue them assuming you have the money and you would win.

Agreed. Patenting is much easier after you have money behind you and a known market.

Oh, and Wireguy - an awful lot of automotive and computer technology is exactly what you describe as a mashup (multiple ideas combined into one). It is a very successful process, if you add new real value/function to the device. In fact, I would hazard that a large percentage of patents granted today are on improvements to existing designs and not true creation of something never seen before. Except maybe the Snuggy!