New CE 3 Smokymizers

[horton]

I found something else that works pretty well with the bung if you can get access to them or buy a set somewhere -- very small curved tip hemostats. With the small radius, you can gently hold the bung and get it in the fill hole, then use something to push it the rest of the way in. I usually use the tip of the stats.
I have been using the pin since I mentioned it in an earlier post, but started to get worried about damaging the bung. I have checked the bung under high magnification, and it appears that it is "self healing". I could see no damage from the pin where I put it in the top of the bung when replacing it or on the side when I use the pin to pry the bung out.
So, maybe another way to get that little pain in the neck in and out if you can find a pair. If you have any friends in the medical field, I'm sure they could come up with a pair for you. A doctor buddy of mine told me that they actually throw some smaller instruments away rather than re-sterilize them due to the time, cost, and labor involved..... does it make more sense why it costs so much to stay in the hospital now?? LOL
I agree that these devices still need work and may have been brought to market too early. I love the thicker tube wall, but the vape is not what I expected. Plus, they still manage to leak no matter how careful I am and I don't like removing the mouthpiece so often to mop up juice. I also have yet to take one apart to clean. I've gathered that is not a cake walk. Gonna give that a try on the weekend.

 

[StotheK]

I found reassembling the things to be at about the same difficulty level as wining a rigged carnival game

 

[horton]

So is it worth the effort to clean, dry burn, and try to reassemble the CE3's or are they truly disposable devices? Just curious as to any opinions or suggestions on that topic. I've never done well on the midway, btw......

 

[StotheK]

If you got one you're about to toss anyway, wouldn't hurt to try. The problem is that the wick is slightly fatter than the hole you have to thread it through. And the wick frays easily just to make it more fun. It's easier if you can pull that inner housing out from inside the tube, but it's pretty hard to coax out of there, I think it's glued in. The coil assembly comes off the tube easy enough though.

 

[horton]

Thanks for the tips StotheK. I am going to try it just for snickers. I have some CE2's that are months old, cleaned many times, and still going strong, so I really want to see if I can if I can do the same with the CE3. If I do "crash and burn", is the thicker tube usable on a CE2? I don't have any way to accurately measure the ID of the tubes. Just eyeballing it, they look close to me.

 

[baronvoncardo]

Yeah, re-inserting the wick into the juice chamber is damn near impossible.

 

[StotheK]

Thanks for the tips StotheK. I am going to try it just for snickers. I have some CE2's that are months old, cleaned many times, and still going strong, so I really want to see if I can if I can do the same with the CE3. If I do "crash and burn", is the thicker tube usable on a CE2? I don't have any way to accurately measure the ID of the tubes. Just eyeballing it, they look close to me.

Cleaning is easy Reassembly is the hitch. You can't use the tube on the CE2 because the top part, where the plug attaches, is molded into the tube. In theory if all else fails, I bet they'd make fine dripping atomizers if you cut the tube in half.

 

[horton]

Thanks for the heads up on that.... never thought about it being molded in. I may be way out in left field with this comment, but wonder if you could drill that top part out and then use the tube?

 

[StotheK]

Thanks for the heads up on that.... never thought about it being molded in. I may be way out in left field with this comment, but wonder if you could drill that top part out and then use the tube?

Haha, I love this place, we'll mod anything! They do make the CE2s with the new style plastic now. Got Vapes has them, and I think Clouds of Vapor also does, though they're labeled as Version 5. That probably means everyone else will get them in time too. You can spot them because they have black instead of white inner gaskets and the smoked color instead of being clear.

 

[horton]

Darn right...... if there is a device, there is a mod for it....LOL. I love reading about all the crafty ideas people come up with. Vaping started out as a way to stop smoking for me but it is quickly becoming my new hobby...LOL. I am glad to know CE2's are now coming with the new type of plastic tubing. One of my fav juices has cinnamon in it, but luckily not enough to damage the current tubes. Now I'll be able to up the cinnamon flavoring and hopefully not have to worry about a handful of juice.
Thanks for the way to tell the new CE2's, StotheK.

 

[light487]

It makes me wonder when I use these different cartos and the like, just who exactly tests them before they are released. I wonder whether the people testing them are not hardcore vapers, not people who need a nice warm vapour and good flavour. The testers mustn't be, otherwise these things wouldn't get past the testing stage.

I tried again by refilling the CE3 last night, made my review video at the same time and the best I can say about these is they are good for an emergency backup carto.. they are adequate but far from being ideal, let alone even "good".. They are "adequate" and nothing more than that.

This morning I went back to my liquinator, which has a Smoktech DC carto inside: awesome flavour, awesome vapour and awesome throat hit.. and very warm.

As for the pooling of liquid in the top of the device, I think the problem stems from the long tube. By the time the vapour has reached the mouthpiece, it starts to condensate and I'd say at least half of the vapour ends up as condensation that pools at the top. This would explain both the lower than average vapour production as well as the lack of flavour strength.

 

[wdave]

So is it worth the effort to clean, dry burn, and try to reassemble the CE3's or are they truly disposable devices? Just curious as to any opinions or suggestions on that topic. I've never done well on the midway, btw......

It's my belief that the seal created by the rubber stopper will eventually fail while the ecig is my pants pocket. I just don't know who soon

 

[horton]

Wdave...... I've noticed that the mouthpiece or drip tip sits right on top or extremely close to the rubber seal. Hence, I am not overly worried about the seal coming out as long as you keep a mouthpiece in while carrying the device in your pocket. I'm sure the rubber will degrade over time, but the atomizer will probably be long worn out before that happens. I'd think the rubber would have to be exposed to say the destructive rays from sunlight to damage it.
I'm looking around for something I can use to make extra bungs from. There has to be some source of small rubber tubing that could be used in lieu of the bung. As long as you could cut even a crude taper to get it started in the fill hole, you could push it down far enough to seal the hole. Just opining on the idea. I still do not understand why the directions do not warn you about leakage when filling if you do not keep the battery end covered by a condom.

 

[ozpkchris]

i believe this is a huge step backward, i love the was they perform but the need for tweezers is a fail.

 

[wdave]

Wdave...... I've noticed that the mouthpiece or drip tip sits right on top or extremely close to the rubber seal. Hence, I am not overly worried about the seal coming out as long as you keep a mouthpiece in while carrying the device in your pocket. I'm sure the rubber will degrade over time, but the atomizer will probably be long worn out before that happens. I'd think the rubber would have to be exposed to say the destructive rays from sunlight to damage it.
I'm looking around for something I can use to make extra bungs from. There has to be some source of small rubber tubing that could be used in lieu of the bung. As long as you could cut even a crude taper to get it started in the fill hole, you could push it down far enough to seal the hole. Just opining on the idea. I still do not understand why the directions do not warn you about leakage when filling if you do not keep the battery end covered by a condom.

I'll give a wait and see

 

[trunkwontopen]

I *should* be getting 2 sets of these today. Even though i've read a good majority of these posts, do you think they would come wth instructions on how to fill them? as I might not be in a spot without internet when I get them..

 

[StotheK]

Yes, each box should come with tweezers, a drip tip, a spare stopper, a needle tip and a little card with instructions, including the hilariously oversimplified directions for cleaning and reassembling.

Also, don't forget you'll need your own syringe for that needle tip.

I *should* be getting 2 sets of these today. Even though i've read a good majority of these posts, do you think they would come wth instructions on how to fill them? as I might not be in a spot without internet when I get them..

 

[wdave]

I *should* be getting 2 sets of these today. Even though i've read a good majority of these posts, do you think they would come wth instructions on how to fill them? as I might not be in a spot without internet when I get them..

The tweezers that came with it didn't allow me to apply enough pressure to the stopper to hold on to it while inserting it in the filler hole. Get a normal thicker, more pointed pair of tweezers from walmart. The needle is too thin for my thicker juices. I never tried the needle for my thinner juice because the 510 cartos seem ideal for them.

HTH,
Dave

 

[trunkwontopen]

Yes, each box should come with tweezers, a drip tip, a spare stopper, a needle tip and a little card with instructions, including the hilariously oversimplified directions for cleaning and reassembling.

Also, don't forget you'll need your own syringe for that needle tip.

Oh yeah, I have syringes. I managed to go to Rite Aid, just looking for large syringes, and the guy behind the coutner gave me 3 surgical/medical grade syringes for free. as long as the AWG is not too much smaller than the hole that one taps into filling the 510 XL, I should be set, as these are 24 AWG.

 

[wdave]

Oh yeah, I have syringes. I managed to go to Rite Aid, just looking for large syringes, and the guy behind the coutner gave me 3 surgical/medical grade syringes for free. as long as the AWG is not too much smaller than the hole that one taps into filling the 510 XL, I should be set, as these are 24 AWG.

You mean until you inject yourself with juice and die right?