New CE 3 Smokymizers

[StotheK]

So... Pro tip for these things. When removing the drip tip, hold the cartomizer, not your PV I went to pull off a drip tip and it was in so tight the entire tube lifted off the base. Since they in fact don't go back together, I just pitched that one.

 

[horton]

StotheK..... I wanted to make sure I understood your last post. Do you mean that the tube won't go back on the base and seal properly once it is removed. Reason I'm curious is I'm thinking about trying to clean one in the next day or so and your comment caught my attention. TIA for your reply......

 

[StotheK]

Yeah there's another thread around here somewhere. But basically, getting the wick back through the hole in the inner chamber is a lot like passing a camel through the eye of a needle

 

[horton]

Saw that thread about the tiny hole for the wick. I was wondering if it would be possible to leave the wick in the inner chamber (keeping it as far away from the coil as possible without actually pulling it through the hole) and then trying a dry burn. Think that is feasible?
Heck, if the tube won't re-seat again, no use in trying to clean them. Don't want to waste a bunch of time if they truly are one shot devices.
Thanks for your quick answer.......

 

[light487]

Any tips on how to improve the flavour yet?

The one thing that makes me stop vaping on these every time is the lack of flavour. I can cope with the cooler vapour, the lower than average vapour production etc.. but I don't like how weak the flavour is.

 

[wdave]

Ecigs without much flavor are good for vaping when getting up in the morning.

I tried "bacon" and it doesn't work either. Maybe somebody carries eggs

Dave

 

[fsroq]

Just got two packs of CE3. I got the 2.8-3.1 rated. Now I am on my third run with one of them.

I dont find filling and putting back that thingy to seal it is so dificult. Also I find these feed the juice very well to the coils, not one single dry hit.

Flavour is the problem with these. I make my own juice, so will try to put some more flavour in it.

Vapour production is very good, I like them at around 4.4 volts, but at 4 volts they are performing reasonable.

I dont know if I will get more of these because of the lack of flavour, but comparing how they work right out of the box with the CE2, these are much better then any of the CE2 ever where IMHO.

 

[Dirgon]

I held off a couple weeks after buying my two 5 packs of these before saying anything, but my first impressions the day I bought them were below dismal.

Why I ordered them: I figured I get blue tubes for my CE2s and a couple free drip tips out of the deal if they suck. Unfortunately, the tubes in these have a section that's part of the molding, and cannot be removed and used in CE2s.

What I ordered:
1 5 pack of the 2.4/2.6 ohm
1 5 pack of the 2.8 ohm

2.4/2.6 all meter at 2.8 and higher.
2.8s all meter at 3.0 and higher.

Flavor: Muted compared to CE2s
Vapor: Muted compared to CE2s
Throat hit: Too harsh, it's an irritating throat hit, not a good throat hit

High voltage: 8 watts burns. 6 watts burns. Anything above 4 watts and 50/50 liquid can't wick fast enough. Even at true 3.7 volts with one that metered 2.9 ohms I'd hit dry spots constantly. At 3.2 volts (eGo and eGo clone batts when under load) they're a terrible vape.

Major gripe: They need a mouth piece with that little rubber plug built into it. "But the tweezers they come with suck, get better tweezers and you won't have a problem!"

I call bs on that. I have a great set of tweezers, but these things go flying off if I squeeze too hard and just flip around if I don't squeeze hard enough. That's not a big deal to me, honestly, I'd deal with it if the product didn't suck.

Biggest gripe: The time I spend replacing the plug on them I usually lose a good amount of juice running out the bottom. I just tried to refill one (that is now in the trash) and by the time I finally got the rubber seal back in, it drained half it's juice out the bottom onto my table. I pulled the seal, refilled, and all the time I spent fiddling with the seal, the entire carto drained out until it was empty.

I'll be trying to cut out the inner crap on them to make the tubes usable on CE2s. I like the blue color more than the smoky CE2s I have.

Notes: For high voltage, I disassembled one and tried to make the wick opening the tiniest bit bigger. Obviously a huge mistake. Within 5 seconds after filling, before I even set down the syringe, the liquid had run half out the bottom, but the time I grabbed a tissue it was empty.

These are garbage. Complete and utter garbage. So are the G4/G5/Vortex/Vortex 2.0 for that matter.

I'm very angry I've wasted so much money on unvapable cartos, between these and the G4/G5/Vortex/Vortex 2.0s. At least the Vortexes were somewhat vapable, but their vapor production was terrible and the mouth pieces sucked and lead to pockets full of juice.

At least with the Boges and the eGo-T I was able to use the crap til it was dead to get my money's worth out of it. (Not that Boges and eGo-T are bad, but the CE2s are worlds ahead imho)

Take it for what it's worth, I've tried an awful lot of cartos and carts for 510 atties (smart carts, smart carts 2.0, blue foam modded carts, lucid carts, etc etc etc) and nothing's been better than the CE2s for me.

I used to syringe mod all my CE2s, but now with the new tubes I don't have to bother. I still have to either remove or cut into the inner fill cup to make them wick well for me, but that's only a one time deal. I can reuse seals on dead ones on new ones without a problem.

 

[Zombitedesade]

A fantastic write up dirgon and I completely agree with every word. Your own findings match exactly those of my own. I really, really don't like them.

They just need to hurry up and make the extremely tough plastic versions of the Ce2's here the UK. Unbelievably one of the vendors I usually use for Ce2's when I asked on their Facebook page, was actually not going to sell the new ones untill they'd got rid of their stock of the defective old ones! They even sent an open email to all their customers stating the old ones were shoddy and likely would come shipped with cracked plastic tubes! Yet they still insist on shifting this rubbish till moving onto the superior stock! Suffice to say I don't use that vendor for Ce2's any more!

 

[Dirgon]

A fantastic write up dirgon and I completely agree with every word. Your own findings match exactly those of my own. I really, really don't like them.

They just need to hurry up and make the extremely tough plastic versions of the Ce2's here the UK. Unbelievably one of the vendors I usually use for Ce2's when I asked on their Facebook page, was actually not going to sell the new ones untill they'd got rid of their stock of the defective old ones! They even sent an open email to all their customers stating the old ones were shoddy and likely would come shipped with cracked plastic tubes! Yet they still insist on shifting this rubbish till moving onto the superior stock! Suffice to say I don't use that vendor for Ce2's any more!

Thanks!

I think most of the vendors here in the US are doing that, too, but just not being as open about it. Gotvapes is wildly popular and sells out of CE2s - FAST, so when they do get restocked they've typically got the newest version on the market at all times. Most other vendors sell half as fast as Gotvapes and usually buy twice the stock, so it takes them longer to move it all.

I can't say I really blame them, but personally, if I was running a vendor that still had huge stocks of the old, I'd be trying to get RS/MIT to send me blank replacement tubes of the new style and shipping 5 with each box of the old stock. That or just mark down the old to get them moving, whichever saves more money in the long run. /shrug

I always said if I ran a vaping store, I'd sell CE2s, and for $2 sell a 5 pack of hand made syringe tubes for them.

Syringe modding them isn't hard, really, Zombie. Syringes are excellent replacements, but don't fit as snug as the new tubes. Any BD 3ml syringe works, just cut the "wings" off the top (leave the tapered part in tact, where the syringe flares out at the top, it forms a tighter seal at the base) and cut the other side just a little longer than a normal tube, and file them smooth and even. Make about 5, or however many cartos you use on a normal basis, and you're good to go.

Just have to be careful with them when removing a drip tip, sometimes you can rip the whole tube off the base.

 

[Nomoreash]

They ought to sell BD syringe tubes with the old stock or mod it for customers. Either way they could add 25 cents or so more per carto which would recoup the cost. Everyone knows by now previous versions need the tube mod but many either don't want to do it or purchase tubes. If they could solve that issue for people old stock would move fast.

 

[horton]

I'm sure some have tried to clean the CE3's by now. I thought I read somewhere that the tube (once removed) will not seal properly when replaced. Does anyone know if this is correct? I also wonder if the tubes from the CE3's will work on the old CE2's.
Thanks very much......

 

[Dirgon]

I'm sure some have tried to clean the CE3's by now. I thought I read somewhere that the tube (once removed) will not seal properly when replaced. Does anyone know if this is correct? I also wonder if the tubes from the CE3's will work on the old CE2's.
Thanks very much......

Once they're taken apart, the bottom insert might not seal properly, or the wick might not be choked off properly, and will cause leaking. They're really a hassle to disassmble, and on one of mine I couldn't get the main plastic body on the interior (that seals the liquid off from the coil) to come out at all.


No, the tubes do not fit CE2s. The fill hole at the top, where the rubber plug goes in, is a solid part of the tube. Imagine if it were a CE2 with the rubber plugs built in to the tubes, except made out of plastic. The two I've tried cutting free so far have wound up with me stabbing a hole through the tube, so it's probably not worth the effort. If I had a drill bit that was the perfect diameter of the inside diameter of the tubes, I could pull it off though, I'm sure.

 

[horton]

Never even considered the fill hole at the top being "locked in". That does sort of ruin things. A drill does sound like a possible option, but like you say, finding the right size will be a problem. Always seems like one step forward and two back....lol

 

[wdave]

i believe this is a huge step backward, i love the was they perform but the need for tweezers is a fail.

After a second try of the CE3, I give it a RESOUNDING two thumbs down. Here is why:

1) The poor workmanship of the carto body requires use of the drip tip. With the drip tip I get so much over-saturated vapor that it makes me sick to my stomach.

2) Two out of five failed deliver good vapor on the first fill.

3) None of the five delivered good vapor on the second filll. Especially with Doppio Espresso which is the reason I was considering the CE3 in the first place.

4) One rubber stopper did pop out on the second fill. IMHO, the stopper doesn't have enough elasticity so it is easily deformed.

I placed an order for another pack of them. But strangely enough the order got deleted in the suppliers computer. I'm really blessed!

HTH,
Dave

 

[pyro13g]

24 hours after I filled my first one it is leaking so this particular carto is wasting my juice.. Not even through the first fill yet. Appears to be leaking around the bung. Does vape great on an Ego. 100% PG. I get that bunt atomizer taste on a high power pass-through.

The bung is a fail. Gonna make my own or just seal them with a dab of 100% silicone if the problem persists.

 

[zacxzac]

I bought a 5 pack. 1 of the 5 didn't leak, but after I used it I had constant liquid coming up into the chamber through the middle. Not very enjoyable.
Another did leak, but also did work well for a while, but constantly battling with re-fills. It seemed to only leak a bit (by a bit, I mean half a mL or so at a time) which meant I was able to vape a little (better than none).

So after a few assignments worth of sitting at my desk spending half my time writing, half my time struggling with the build quality, I started looking for solutions.

HEADS UP for anyone who has these:

So ordinarily I would just buy new gear if something sucked, however I've been pretty convinced I could make these things work.

tried this LINK
It works.
So, if you've got a 5 pack like I do, and can't be bothered/can't afford any new gear right now...worth a try!
That said, if you don't own these, don't buy them. They suck. The CE2 Giantomizers I had were also nothing but trouble. This will be the last Smokeymizer product I'll be buying.

 

[pyro13g]

After messing with these for the last week I actually like and am enjoying them. Well, at least this box of them. So much I am filling my last one with another flavor(5 flavors currently going). Other than a bit of weeping into the fill hole area, they work quite well on Ego and 510 batteries. On my high power pass-through, if you're on the button to long you will get that dried out atomizer burnt taste.

I vaped a good 20ml+ in the first one I filled and it still performs like new. They seem to start to leak more with thinner juices and when they get low on juice(like it's a vacuum issue). That's when I get juice in the air tube.

 

[pyro13g]

Also, don't try to clean them by taking them apart like the instructions say. J The wick is a bit delicate and the outer shell/weave came off when I cleaned one of them. This results in it being to thin. Juice then leaks into the atty chamber and floods it. Going to use this damaged one for dripping. Should work great.