New CE2 wierd burnt taste

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Rule62

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Zoid, I tried the CE2 on my passthrough (5V?) and got that burnt taste . . so I guess I would need lower ohms for it? but is ok for the battery I have.

Now, tips for replacing the inner cap seal after modding? I seem to keep catching one lip on the side. I've been told this eliminates leaking in the rest position.

You would want higher ohm carts for higher voltage. IMO, 5V is too hot for 2.6-2.8 ohm Fluxos.
 

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Shateo, maybe we can try & troubleshoot the flavor issue, try this and let us know if you still get muted flavor. Before doing this please try & get an accurate ohm reading on a multimeter.

Remove all the seals on the Fluxomizer, & put some juice & try to saturate the wicks not a lot, just enough juice to make sure the wicks are wet. Put a drop or two on the coil. Give it a minute or two for the juice to soak in well. With or without a drip tip, hold it vertically & take a draw on it & see if you still get the same taste or if it improves, worsens, etc. If you a have a Fluxo with juice already in it, just remove all the seals & see if the taste changes.

Also, please note the condition of your coil before & after to see if it becomes really dark, black, etc.
 

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    Sorry, I missed zoidDman's reply when I posted earlier. I am using 2.6-2.8 on a V4L manual battery (808?) Is lack of flavor due to getting the wrong CE2?

    Shateo

    When a person say’s that their new CE2 taste “burnt”, there are Usually only two main causes. (Or a Combination of the Two Main Causes)

    1) The CE2 is not wicking fast enough. E-Liquid is not getting to the atomizer coil fast enough so what e-Liquid is at the coil “burns”.

    2) The ohms are too Low for the given voltage that there PV puts out.


    The first cause can usually be cured by doing some of the things mentioned in these threads. Lifting the Cup Seal Slightly, Fluffing the Wick, Using only the O-Ring Only, Cutting the Cup Seal slots into a “V”, etc. By far the easiest cure is to simply tilt the Battery end of your PV up slightly so that e-Liquid is pooled around the cup when you take a hit.

    If One or a Combination of these work, Great. No more burnt taste. But if they All fail then you need to move to a Higher ohm.

    A higher ohm CE2, or any Carto/Atty, runs cooler than a Lower ohm CE2. Ie: 2.8~3.0ohms runs Cooler than a 2.6~2.8ohm CE2. You said that you are using 2.6~2.8ohms with a 70%PG : 30%VG e-Liquid. That sounds very reasonably for a KR808.

    But herein lies the problem.

    In most cases, when you use Higher ohms, you lose some amount of Flavor and Vapor. You want More Flavor not Less. So going to a Higher Ohm doesn't sound like you would be moving in the Right Direction.

    When you say that the burnt taste has been solved it tells me that you, by whatever you did, have improved the wicking and the CE2 is now wicking fine for your PV’s voltage and the e-Liquid your using.

    So there is only about one way to get more Flavor if you are not using a VVPV. And that is to go to a “Lower“ ohm.

    This sounds Crazy to many people because they will tell you that Lower ohms = Burnt Taste. But you now know how to fix a burnt taste so that shouldn't a problem.

    I would pick up a pack of 2.4~2.6ohm CE2’s and try them. Just be ready to do whatever you did to your first CE2’s to get rid of the burnt taste. And I would suggest you use the method tilting your PV when you take a hit. You might also choose a different color CE2 so you can tell the difference between the two ohms.

    Hope this helps and let us know how things work out.

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    BTW – This is a Classic Example of where a CE2 ohm Sampler Pack would be Great. If a New User could buy a 6-Pack of 2 CE2’s in 2.4~2.6, 2.6~2.8 and 2.8~3.0 ohms, the user could try each and know what works best for their PV and e-Liquids.

    They might even find that 2.4~2.6ohms works Best for One Flavor and 2.6~2.8ohms works Best for Another. And when ALL your e-Liquids work in a CE2 you are a Very Happy Cutomer.

    And Happy New Cutomers = Happy Return Customers With Credit Cards In Their Hands.

    Or HNC=HRCWCCITH for short.
     
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    Shateo

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    1st - I agree with Zoid that a sampler pack would be great. I also agree that it seems the 2.6-2.8 works well with my pv, but I may try a pack of lower ohms for better flavor. Trying to get hubby to use a multimeter today.

    2nd - I get better vapor and flavor with only the middle donut and a drip tip, but I can't lay it down. I get the best seal using the fluxo as it comes, but decreased vapor, flavor, and harder to draw.

    3rd - both the fluxos I am "playing" with right now have black coils at this point. What does that mean?

    4th - hubby says my sinuses are clogged because he tried the pv and said there was definite flavor, not strong enough for him, but it was there.

    5th - I agree, always wait for wicking and tilt. I wonder if I didn't wait long enough after filling my first fluxo and therefore the burnt taste.

    6th - my priorities are for it not to leak (which seems to indicate I need to use all 3 original seals) and to taste good (which may mean stronger juice flavors). I am happy using the original seals if I can find a way to get the cup seal back on. I have gotten one back on after modding, but it was a pain in the ..... Tips? I would be happier using all 3 original seals if I could get a better draw/more vapor. . . I know - I want it ALL - lol.

    I'm getting there. Currently have all 3 seals, modded cup seal, not drawing well, leaking just a little (I think from all my tinkering), black coils, with a hazelnut coffee flavor I can't really taste.

    Still happier tinkering with this for perfection that dealing with the cartos/filling.
     

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    1st - I agree with Zoid that a sampler pack would be great. I also agree that it seems the 2.6-2.8 works well with my pv, but I may try a pack of lower ohms for better flavor. Trying to get hubby to use a multimeter today.

    2nd - I get better vapor and flavor with only the middle donut and a drip tip, but I can't lay it down. I get the best seal using the fluxo as it comes, but decreased vapor, flavor, and harder to draw.

    3rd - both the fluxos I am "playing" with right now have black coils at this point. What does that mean?

    4th - hubby says my sinuses are clogged because he tried the pv and said there was definite flavor, not strong enough for him, but it was there.

    5th - I agree, always wait for wicking and tilt. I wonder if I didn't wait long enough after filling my first fluxo and therefore the burnt taste.

    6th - my priorities are for it not to leak (which seems to indicate I need to use all 3 original seals) and to taste good (which may mean stronger juice flavors). I am happy using the original seals if I can find a way to get the cup seal back on. I have gotten one back on after modding, but it was a pain in the ..... Tips? I would be happier using all 3 original seals if I could get a better draw/more vapor. . . I know - I want it ALL - lol.

    I'm getting there. Currently have all 3 seals, modded cup seal, not drawing well, leaking just a little (I think from all my tinkering), black coils, with a hazelnut coffee flavor I can't really taste.

    Still happier tinkering with this for perfection that dealing with the cartos/filling.

    Here is a trick I tried, and it worked. Back when I used poly filled cartos, some of them came with a neoprene ring which sat inside, on top of the batting. Being the pack rat that I am, I saved a bunch of them. After you invert the donut ring upside down, and reinstalled it in your Fluxo, put one of those rings, tapered side up toward the mouthpiece. This will take up enough space so that your drip tip will sit against this second ring. If you don't have any of the conversion kits, this is an alternative. You still have to remove the rings to fill, but they usually come out together.
     

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    antfuzz, I did the donut mod and liked it, but got leakage. I saw a vid on another mod where you raise the cup seal to sit on top of the cup and I like that also, but worry about leaking. I'll check to see if the cup is centered.

    Rule, I don't have a center ring like you are talking about, although I was looking at the tops of the cartos and wondering how I might use those. The sit tight in a carto.

    I'm going to keep playing with the two I have open until they are empty and then see about cleaning them. When I break the next on out, I'm going to see if I can get it to work out of the box. If not, maybe I'll just lift the cup seal a tad. I think that's the best for no leaks.

    To clean, do I have to take the tube off or is there a way to clean while keeping the tube on?
     

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    When I put the center seal back on, I push it down into the cup enough to seal it off. I don't get any leaks. I fill 4 Fluxos for my day and pack them in my eGo case with my VV every night. I am able to make it into work without a leak. When I put the seal in, I slowly work it onto the cup but gently pushing in a circular motion. After about 4 or 5 times around, it is in there nice and tight.

    So, I just ordered new Fluxos at 3.5ohms. What should be the correct voltage, in order to get a better flavor and vapor from them?
     

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    So, I just ordered new Fluxos at 3.5ohms. What should be the correct voltage, in order to get a better flavor and vapor from them?

    I guess it goes without saying (but I'm saying it anyway :laugh:) that it depends on your juice, how hot you like it, how much you are willing to tilt, etc.

    But if I had to guess... I use my 3.2 Fluxes with pipe tobacco juices somewhere around 4 to 4.2 Volts. I suppose a 3.5 would be someplace above 4.2.
     

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    I guess it goes without saying (but I'm saying it anyway :laugh:) that it depends on your juice, how hot you like it, how much you are willing to tilt, etc.

    But if I had to guess... I use my 3.2 Fluxes with pipe tobacco juices somewhere around 4 to 4.2 Volts. I suppose a 3.5 would be someplace above 4.2.

    Where do you get your pipe tobacco juices?
     

    Shateo

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    I'm almost there! I broke out a new flux, filled it and put it back together - including the original mouthpiece. . . then I waited. That seemed to work. The juice wicked fine, no burnt taste, no other issues so far, good draw, lots of vapor. Still weak on the taste, but I will just find different juices. Now, if I can figure out a way to clean it without taking the cup seal off, I'll be golden (or figure out how to get it back on without a wrestling match!!!. GV - LOVING this!

    So . . anyone know where I can get juices with strong flavor in about 50/50 mix? PG gives me hives on its own.
     
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