So I just got a Fifty One Duo E-cig and I like it but it limits how much I can smoke. If I puff on it too much it blinks at me and won't let me smoke it any more. WTF!!! Anybody used these before or any sugestions? It lasts forever before it'll let me use it again too. What am I supposed to do with this stupid thing now?
New E Smoker, Fifty One problems
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Can you post a link to where it is available online so we can get more information, and maybe determine if it is a standard model relabeled?
Some of the batteries have a cut off point. If you draw too long, it shuts down the battery for a short time, and then resets. This is to keep the atomizer from getting too hot and burning up. It takes some getting used to. It's not like a tobacco cig. You are using an electronic device now that acts differently.
They have e-cigs with manual batteries where you simply press the button, and draw on it. Most manuals don't have the cut off. Realistically, you probably are not going to trash your existing batteries & e-cig, and buy something else, so I suggest you work with it for a while. There's a learning curve, and once you get the hang of it, it won't be a problem anymore.
We all went through it. It gets better.
They have e-cigs with manual batteries where you simply press the button, and draw on it. Most manuals don't have the cut off. Realistically, you probably are not going to trash your existing batteries & e-cig, and buy something else, so I suggest you work with it for a while. There's a learning curve, and once you get the hang of it, it won't be a problem anymore.
We all went through it. It gets better.
Ok, what is going on here?? Maybe he could get some help on this thread too!
I hate it when that happens!
Anyway, there are some links in the Thread that we looked up last night, so possibly there's a few more.
But to the point, if you're puffing too fast it may cut you off for up to 3 minutes, there are a lot of the automatic batteries that do that, NPro comes to mind. Just slow down, take nice looong gentle puffs, and you should be back in business. The concept is a little different from smoking analongs, or 'tobacco' cigarettes, because you have to sustain the puff to keep the atomizer engaged long enough to produce vapor. Cut-off time for puffs is usually 5 seconds, some are longer. Refer to your Smoke51 Duo Users' Manual. Some people puff cigarettes with short little puffs, but that won't work with an e-cig. Just click on the second link above, there is a place to buy parts and more cartridges.
Whoever they bought these things from should have been a little more helpful at POS, MHO.
I hate it when that happens!
Anyway, there are some links in the Thread that we looked up last night, so possibly there's a few more.
But to the point, if you're puffing too fast it may cut you off for up to 3 minutes, there are a lot of the automatic batteries that do that, NPro comes to mind. Just slow down, take nice looong gentle puffs, and you should be back in business. The concept is a little different from smoking analongs, or 'tobacco' cigarettes, because you have to sustain the puff to keep the atomizer engaged long enough to produce vapor. Cut-off time for puffs is usually 5 seconds, some are longer. Refer to your Smoke51 Duo Users' Manual. Some people puff cigarettes with short little puffs, but that won't work with an e-cig. Just click on the second link above, there is a place to buy parts and more cartridges.
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I have two batteries for my 51 duo. I accidentally dropped one of them, and it disabled the front-end LED. Interestingly enough, it ALSO disabled the auto cut-off feature. If I'm not careful, I can puff on that sucker until the cartomizer gets really hot! If I accidentally get it too hot, I can unscrew the battery and still get a couple decent hits of just the cartomizer.
I still don't know what model it is, but it looks exactly like the vapor king in the demo videos on vapor4life (with different exterior graphics, of course.)
I still don't know what model it is, but it looks exactly like the vapor king in the demo videos on vapor4life (with different exterior graphics, of course.)
If the battery shut off is disabled, throw it away. It will be just berserk and will also burn the atomizer out too. Did you see the links we put in my post for parts and cartridges, there are batteries listed there as well if I remember right. Just click on the blue colored links in Post number 4 on this page, there's a place to buy supplies.
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Kate has a good point, but I'd like to add something. You said in your OP that you just got it. Before you toss it, see if you can t get it exchanged. Contact your supplier.
I'm certainly not throwin it away. I hope I didnt toss the recipt though. Thing cost me 80 bucks. I'm really ...... though because it won't let me use it at all now. Its been hours and it still won't work. Just blinks at me. It says in the manual there is a cutoff if it feels your "overusing" it and it will blink at you. There's obviously something wrong with it cause I haven't used it for hours and it let me take one drag then blinked like a MOTHER****ER at me!
Shocka;
Consider updating your profile and adding your location. You may have neighbors close by to help get you going until you can get a grip on this battery problem.
Consider updating your profile and adding your location. You may have neighbors close by to help get you going until you can get a grip on this battery problem.
I made the same $80 mistake. Those things are simply crap. I have never been able to get it to work worth anything. Return it if you can, if not spend another $50 and get a good starter kit from a real supplier (510, 801, 901....). You will NEVER get that thing working if it is anything like mine. Just a very poor design. Even the carts are poorly designed.
Seems to be working just fine. It has been for over a month now. It's just that the LED doesn't light, and it lets me draw as much as I want to. I have been able to self-regulate so it doesn't get too hot, and most of my cartomizers still work, even after multiple refillings.
If I could figure out what the Smoke 51 brand is, I would buy another battery, and a pass-thru that is compatible.
If I could figure out what the Smoke 51 brand is, I would buy another battery, and a pass-thru that is compatible.
Smoke-51 is the LTv9 device by loong totem.... I have no idea whether they have updated their battery itself to an "updated" model, but the adaptor threads are the same for the cartomizers.
I remember numerous posts of cart(omizers) compatabilities inquiries with other 2-piece designs but never followed up on the posts.
There is also a long post of mine back then of the procedure to "refill" the cartomizers I was following and having success for avg 6-7 refills per cart before the wadding wasn't worth attempting further refilling or when I was concerned about cleanliness or germs since the wadding was not washable (I'll have to try and dig up a link thru search).
The device is fine.... albiet expensive (but I beleive the expense was part of smoke51's marketing to offer such a long battery warranty period, which at the time was one year). That is, if you could endure the necessity of returning the defect and waiting for them to repond and/or resend a replacement.
They had a rash of very poor released batteries in Dec-March '09 or so, coupled with a poor response/satisifaction time to address their customers. If memory is correct, this was supposed to be rectified with a newer battery version around tha time.
When I first started, it was also my first e-cig, and other than the intermittant battery issue and difficulty refilling "reliably", it was good and provided good vapor even if, at the time, you could only get very basic flavors and maximum nic strength of 8 mg.
I still use mine occasionally out of convenience when forgetting to recharge my 510 stuff, or as a simply switch to "mix it up" and use something different. They CAN be finicky no doubt, but overall I was satisfied with my purchase and use enough to attempt opening a website to market them. That is until Health Canada stomped THAT idea out on me.
I used the experience from them as a starting point to know if vaping was right for me originally with the convenience of not needing to mess around with juice's (two piece with cartomizer) then moved on to gaining experience to fiddle around with cocktails and other types of devices.
So, if you've chosen this one originally to "try" and you venture on to continue vaping (no matter what the device), then your initial purchase has suited a purpose with a good end result.
I'll also make note here that as I've mentioned the batteries AND their auto switches tend to act up, they stick, and if you have some patience to play around and try different things when you have a failure/issue like blowing through the light end or gently tapping the cart end with the cart removed, theres a good chance you will get the switch to un-stick (unless its due to a drop enough to break or short an internal wire as they are near threadlike in size), or you've flooded the battery with a refilling attempt, you will often find that this is enough to get it to activate properly again.
Its also very important (I have found) to make sure that your initial charge of the battery is 8 hours, and then subsequently 4 hour recharges **regardless of WHAT the LED on the charger is telling you**.
144man, I'd be very careful with your device..... you have no way of knowing if what you've done with dropping it will cause the device to activate on its own when not expected and cause an unexpected fire/burn hazzard (especially while the battery is being charged). Just something to consider with regard to "risk" and your loved ones in the house.
VapeOn,
Greg
I remember numerous posts of cart(omizers) compatabilities inquiries with other 2-piece designs but never followed up on the posts.
There is also a long post of mine back then of the procedure to "refill" the cartomizers I was following and having success for avg 6-7 refills per cart before the wadding wasn't worth attempting further refilling or when I was concerned about cleanliness or germs since the wadding was not washable (I'll have to try and dig up a link thru search).
The device is fine.... albiet expensive (but I beleive the expense was part of smoke51's marketing to offer such a long battery warranty period, which at the time was one year). That is, if you could endure the necessity of returning the defect and waiting for them to repond and/or resend a replacement.
They had a rash of very poor released batteries in Dec-March '09 or so, coupled with a poor response/satisifaction time to address their customers. If memory is correct, this was supposed to be rectified with a newer battery version around tha time.
When I first started, it was also my first e-cig, and other than the intermittant battery issue and difficulty refilling "reliably", it was good and provided good vapor even if, at the time, you could only get very basic flavors and maximum nic strength of 8 mg.
I still use mine occasionally out of convenience when forgetting to recharge my 510 stuff, or as a simply switch to "mix it up" and use something different. They CAN be finicky no doubt, but overall I was satisfied with my purchase and use enough to attempt opening a website to market them. That is until Health Canada stomped THAT idea out on me.
I used the experience from them as a starting point to know if vaping was right for me originally with the convenience of not needing to mess around with juice's (two piece with cartomizer) then moved on to gaining experience to fiddle around with cocktails and other types of devices.
So, if you've chosen this one originally to "try" and you venture on to continue vaping (no matter what the device), then your initial purchase has suited a purpose with a good end result.
I'll also make note here that as I've mentioned the batteries AND their auto switches tend to act up, they stick, and if you have some patience to play around and try different things when you have a failure/issue like blowing through the light end or gently tapping the cart end with the cart removed, theres a good chance you will get the switch to un-stick (unless its due to a drop enough to break or short an internal wire as they are near threadlike in size), or you've flooded the battery with a refilling attempt, you will often find that this is enough to get it to activate properly again.
Its also very important (I have found) to make sure that your initial charge of the battery is 8 hours, and then subsequently 4 hour recharges **regardless of WHAT the LED on the charger is telling you**.
144man, I'd be very careful with your device..... you have no way of knowing if what you've done with dropping it will cause the device to activate on its own when not expected and cause an unexpected fire/burn hazzard (especially while the battery is being charged). Just something to consider with regard to "risk" and your loved ones in the house.
VapeOn,
Greg
So apperantly the light flashes a different number of times to indicate different things to you. In the instructions I read the part about 10 flashes if your overusing it but missed the part about 20 if the battery is dead. I finely caught it after reading the manual several more times and figured out the battery was dead. The weird thing is the charger has a green light when it's charged and a red light when its not charged. When I plugged it in it was red for about 60 sec then turned green so i thought the battery must have been fine (before i found the part about the 20 flashes) but once I found that and left it in longer it went back to red and charged up. Haven't had any problems with it today. It does stop if you use it too much too quick but only for a few seconds. Now that I'm learning to use it I'm feeling much better about it. They need to organize their manual a bit better though cause its vague and confusing.
I agree with the manuals being confusing, lol.... and I think its due to the poor translations performed in thier making.
Glad you've managed to figure things out and get it working for you, and hope you enjoy your vaping experience.
VapeOn,
Greg
Glad you've managed to figure things out and get it working for you, and hope you enjoy your vaping experience.
VapeOn,
Greg
Thanks very much Greg, that's the kind of help everyone was hoping for!
What, manuals are confusing? Absolutely something gets lost in translation!
And shocka311, sorry, I guess my stuff is getting so far past any warranty I didn't think to not throw that battery away...do get it exchanged or refunded if you possibly can!
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Shocka there are a couple somewhat local suppliers in Utah. I go my 901 at Stogies in Provo but they were a bit pricey. If you want to change models I'd recommend what everyone else does for us beginners and get a 510 or 901. I've really liked the 901 and doubt I'll be unhappy when my 510 arrives.
Shocka, if you can find manual batteries with a button, you'll like them better.
If not, I have learned to take several small puffs before the cut-off switch kicks in on my automatics. Takes practice--there is a learning curve as SJ pointed out. But it gets better!
If not, I have learned to take several small puffs before the cut-off switch kicks in on my automatics. Takes practice--there is a learning curve as SJ pointed out. But it gets better!
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