• Need help from former MFS (MyFreedomSmokes) customers

    Has any found a supplier or company that has tobacco e-juice like or very similar to MFS Turbosmog, Tall Paul, or Red Luck?

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Kent C

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Over two weeks now and all is well. Still no leaks, better vapor than other PVs/systems, great vapor. Haven't cleaned but haven't needed to. I'll be picking up one full kit (no devil logo) for the batteries. Only have one now. And probably several extra attys so I can convert the mega eGo attys over to tanks, so I have my main 6 flavors on separate eGos.

Haven't been closely following the thread, so not sure if anyone else mentioned it, but one thing I hadn't mentioned before is the lack of 'juice in the mouth' with this system. As a newbie I took some hot juice and have an enlarged tastebud as a result. That wouldn't happen with this system and the juice in mouth is a common refrain on the newbie forums. So If someone could get over the 'size factor' this would be a good initial PV for most, imo.
 

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Firstly I would like to say that I am a chain vaper.

I have been through more that 8 tanks on mine, and I like it a lot. I have many mods and have CE2 rev 1-5. I find this to work much better. I am not trying to suggest that people should run out and buy this system on my recomendation, I am just saying that I like it, and it workd extremely well for me.

I have experience NO leaking, even after using the same tank for over half my fills. I only use one juice, so the juice is not an issue for me. IF this device would not vape my juice I would not use it. I use Vapor Station regular juice exclusively. Rumor has it that it is 70/30. I DID get some of the 100%VG stuff from them, but it is like jelly, so I do not use it.

The juice I use is NEARLY clear out of the bottle with no particulates.

I find using the device to be simple, and flavorful. I also find it to EAT UP tons of juice. Actually I would call it an alarming rate. I need to carry a couple of extra tanks with me when I go out.

The tanks do not leak for me. Even after initial use. I would not put them in my pocket without a cap, but they seem to keep in the juice when sitting on my desk even without the caps.

I will watch this thread and give any more information that I come across. IF it starts to suck you guys will be the first to know.

P.S I have only used one of my ATTIES and have not cleaned it once. I do not even blow them out.
 

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I was talking to Trevor at Ovale USA and he was saying that one of the atties in the kit was a TAWA as I didn't know what that was yea I'm a n00b, he informed me it was a "Throw A Way Atty" in case the regular atty failed you are to use that untill they send you a replacement. Has anyone found atties marked differently? if not how do you know which is which?
 

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I'm not saying that I don't like my unit (now that it has been "healed")... but I just don't see myself using it very much. I think (as others have said) that it will probably be a great first e-cig for those folks who aren't hell bent on leather to have an e-cig that looks like an analog.

But for sure I am going to revisit the design when they come out with the cylindrical tank units.... in LR. Which... if my crystal ball is correct.... will be within a couple of months.

But that's just me..... I'm not going to get a Verizon iPhone until the 5 is running on their 4G LTE network either..... so there.
 

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I agree that it goes through the juice really fast. I could say it sucks the juice just as fast a a LR attie. (I was using a mega LR attie before the tank system). Its cool I will just buy gallons LOL.

Agreed. It doesn't burn some flavors like an LR can though.... it still wakes up the stronger ones though.
 

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I just received my two tank atomizers and a jar of filled tanks from TW to try. Additionally I had ordered a couple Riva kits from LF to have more eGo style batts and chargers. The price was right and I have decided to go eGo style for work etc... Anyways, from the get go, the Riva batts show 3.7vdc with no load and the eGo shows 3.4vdc. I can tell the difference between the Riva and eGO with a tank atty on it also. It hits fairly mild with the eGo and good vapor, but has better TH and vapor production on the Riva. It preforms really well IMO, just not as heavy a vapor as a LR 510. I have only put a full tank through the atomizer at this point as I just returned from a business trip. IF I can get this sort of performance for a month on one atomizer, I will switch over to these for my out and about PV. Now to fill that tank...
 

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I got my atomizer and tanks yesterday. So far it sucks a ton of juice. The draw doesn't seem as good as the boge cartos do when they are new. However, those same cartos gum up pretty quick with the 80/20 DIY juice with 10% dark Irish cream I use. So far this juice isn't slowing this setup down at all. Things look good after the first full day. Not the best draw but the most consistent. Many fewer refills. No bad taste. No leaking. Simplest to fill in low light conditions. Ordered a couple more and a half truckload of tanks. We'll see how good they are when wifey gets hers.
 

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Well I got my new atty today. They wouldn't replace the TAWA atty however. To be expected though.

A note - They assured me the best way to clean these is to blow out NOT from the battery thread end but with your mouth over the end you place the cart in. I tried and the juice comes out faster this way and with less effort needed and a lot more comes out too. This must be due to the wicking needle I think. Also they said cleaning via boiling or alcohol is a 'last shot' to save an atty and not reccomended otherwise.

They assured me that these atties are garuanteed for 6 months as they are designed to last that long before failiure. Based on what I told them of my previous vaping technique - lots of fast deep draws - they said that is why I got the burning taste, I was vaping to fast for the atty to be kept moist with juice.

Best way to draw these - from the Jantykorea guys themselves - a slow deep 6 second draw. after 6 of these draws you need to rest it until atty cools down.

Also - when you draw, keep drawing for a few seconds after button is off as otherwise (they demonstrated this to me and it is true) a small cloud of mist goes back into the atty which can cause leakage and wicking problems. Something to keep in mind.

Okay - so results with new ego-t atty and with my 4 week old blown through properly and swabbed TAWA atty.

TAWA atty is working well again. It seems these attys really are built to last. I have no experience with other attys but this unit has given me the burnt gacky taste many times and has been cleaned with hot water twice and air dried. As of today after just blowing through the Jantykorea way - it is working well. So they can malfunction but will still go strong for at least a few cleans and dries. Am vaping gh1 strawberry on it and and am getting a clean light strawberry chewits / chewing gum kind of taste. It is a bit weak but I think that's the juice which smells weak in the bottle and was a cheap buy tbh at around 3.50usd for 10ml. It is a 30vg and 70pg mix. Vapor is slightly dry and the ego-t is not a vapor beast in my experience. EDIT - by end of this post burning taste is back. Will do isopropyl alcohol cleaning tomorow thoroughly.

On to the BRAND SPANK NEW non tawa atty. Vaped a cart of gh1 usa blend and it the most 'meh' experience after watching Eric Banner in any movie. other than the brilliant 'Chopper.' Man is that guy wooden.... A light vape with a slightly nutty aftertaste. Very dry, airy vape.

Switched to and am vaping gh1 'tobacco' as I type this. Great improvement. We are now in 'Eric Banner in Chopper territory.' It's a nice vape with a much fuller body and a nice mellow coffee grinds kind of after taste. Very pleasent and fulfilling indeed. Vape however is dryish and airy still and about as much from a long, deep 6 second draw as you'd get from a quick draw on a cigarette. I have vaped in stores testing out their juices on their models which are bigger than the ego - about the size of the Boge Leo, with drip tips and also with a janty stick with cartos and found the vapour to be thicker, sweeter and cooler, kind of more silky as well than the ego-t.

The ego-t is definately (for me) NOT a great vapor producer and like I said, bar the menthol I like, the vapor is airy, and dry, hot at times with every juice I have tried so far (6 in all.) This is with the brand new ego-t non TAWA atty. I am hoping 501 attys with drip tips are going to give me a more voloptuos and delectable vaping experience at home when I order them in.

To sum up for me so far - the ego-t (leakage for whatever reason, no longer an issue) will be useful for when on the go but is not really providing a satisfying at home vape and the level and quality of vapor will get unfulfilling for me and I'd expect most vapers after a short while. So good for when out the house but I'm thinking not satisfying enough for at home. Certainly not for me.

Could be as I'm using cheap juices (the expensive menthol one from a Korean store was damned amazing) and I will buy a more expensive one in the week (have tried DEKANG RY4 in a store here in Korea on their pv and it was very tasty - though 10ml will cost me 18usd ouch) but the Janty oriental isn't much better on my ego-t either and is definately a quality branded juice from Jantykorea.

My experience in regards to vaping satisfaction pretty much is the same as scotbees and milkyg's and if more expensive juices give same vaping experience as I've had so far - the price just is not worth it and I see myself using this as a back up and moving on to regualr attys with drip tips or maybe a boge leo if and when they come out with a simillar tank system as reviews of the leo have been absolutely rave so far (we seem to be talking De Niro in Raging Bull.) In fact I have seen one other manufacturer has already came out with a tank desing which seems borrowed from the ego-t. Can't remember the company name but is a UK online store and the man's name is Sharrif. He has a video of it and you can order them from him. It is a small cigarette style pv and has the same attys with wicking needles and carts based on the same concept, if not exactly the same shape - but they are tank carts with an atty wiht a wicking needle same as ego-t. So obviously other pv makers will be applying this concept to their units.

My ego-t got pretty Eric Banner after the initital novelty value wore off, I'm sorry to say. And like I said this is with a brand new atty and with a nice tasting juice at 30 / 70 vg / pg. Not much vapor at all and mostly dry and airy and warm at times...
 
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A few days and several tanks in to these. My biggest complaint from day 1 was a flavor comparable to mega attys with filler (and less flavor than from CE2s). After a few more tanks in I'm finding that flavor is actually improving. I remember first trying 510s and noticing the same thing...there always seemed to be a break-in period for them. Seems to be the same for the tank attys as well. Enjoying these more as time goes on...even though they're juice hogs.
 

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    I am also noticing less flavor. Popped in a 2.0 boge and flavor was thick. Back to tank and it's thin and weak. Maybe with some break in time this will improve. May also need to look into adjusting the juice for more vapor.

    It could be that you tank is at a higher ohm. I've used some High ohm E2's that make my best juice taste like nothing. Very little vapor and very little taste. I have also used Low ohm E2's which makes ALL my juices taste burnt.

    What ohm are the tanks that have supposed to be and what type of PV are you useing with them?
     

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    I believe the tank ATTY are close to 2.9 ohm. I feel they are similar to a 3.3 device with a standard atty. (DUH) They do not compare to an LR atty OR carto, but do work EXTREMELY well on my 14500 box mod at 3.7 with a charging adapter.

    I am happy with mine, and have to tell Hotwire that the juice may be all the problem. I personally cannot stand "Chinese" juice, and have had many problems with them in the past both wick wise and taste wise. I cannot believe that you have to pay $14 US for Dekang juice. I can get a 30ml of that for about $6 US. I vape "good" juice for over double that price.

    I can see the cost disadvantage for you, and I am sorry for that. I wish you could try several different juices and see if that is the problem you are having.

    PS, I have been through more than 15 tanks, and really like the device. NO leaking or wicking problems so far, and using the same first atty out of the pack. I am saving the second for backup in case of catastrophic failure. I do not blow it out or clean my atties in any way either.

    I vaped a bit of the pre-filled TOB juice that came in my kit, and almost puked. I can't believe some people like that stuff.
     
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    Kent and I both measured ours and they came in at the 2.2-2.3Ω range.

    I will note that when I first started vaping mine I thought it was "down" on flavor. But as the atomizer "broke in" and became seasoned, the flavor improved.

    Good point because different wattages effect different flavors. When I say I'm getting 'good flavor' I mean on VG DV's Habana Reserve, Absinthe, Real Tabs and I tried coffee. On fruits/berries and other less strong flavors that wattage may be too high. And of course taking in the subjectivity of tastes - it could be a wide variation. It might be helpful to post what flavors are 'better' and which worse and if you metered your atty. The Joye products will be available this week from other vendors - HGifts has the category up but it's blank... others are waiting.... and they could be different ohm than some that are out there.
     

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    Mine are reading 2.3Ω. As far as flavor, I get a noticeable difference in flavor, though it is much different then what I expereince on a LR510 (@1.5-1.7Ω). It is very subtle and the vapor is "lighter" and smoother, if that makes sense. Of course flavor is so subjective. I have only been putting tobac flavors through it, as I worry about tainting the atomizer with my absinthe or other strong flavors... Kent, how has your T atty been handling going from coffee or absinthe and then back to say Real Tabs? And how do you like Absinthe with the T system?
     

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    Mine are reading 2.3Ω. As far as flavor, I get a noticeable difference in flavor, though it is much different then what I expereince on a LR510 (@1.5-1.7Ω). It is very subtle and the vapor is "lighter" and smoother, if that makes sense. Of course flavor is so subjective. I have only been putting tobac flavors through it, as I worry about tainting the atomizer with my absinthe or other strong flavors... Kent, how has your T atty been handling going from coffee or absinthe and then back to say Real Tabs? And how do you like Absinthe with the T system?

    JR,

    It's handing flavor changes well - I stovepipe it to no flavor before changing. So that is helping but there's nothing holding on to the previous flavor so far - I won't be trying menthol or cherry though :) On those two 'the force is strong'. Absinthe tastes good with the Tank. In almost all it is a slightly better than mega eGo atty/cart set up which for me anyway, has been the best flavor vaping other than say, straight dripping.
     
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