• Need help from former MFS (MyFreedomSmokes) customers

    Has any found a supplier or company that has tobacco e-juice like or very similar to MFS Turbosmog, Tall Paul, or Red Luck?

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With the tank, you just need to make sure that there are no air bubbles in the tank; especially when new, you need to lift the tank from time to time. I think the taste is a tad more intense on the regular eGo, but it also depends on my daily mood.... some days, I taste nothing no matter where I vape.

Cannot compare to high-end machines... will get myself a Bulli soon, though, with a mod battery. We'll see.
 

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Want to get lr 510 attys and also am curious about debridged 510 attys too. Would debridged lr be too much and should I go bridged lr and debridged regular... or are debridged lr 510 attys a good idea...

Also - much of a difference in flavor between 510 regular and 510 lr and or debridged when dripping?

Thanks for the input! At the moment I feel like I'm sucking on mildly flavored air, very frustrating.

FINALLY - what's the lowest ohms I should go for with the standard ego battery? Some people have said that 1.5 is too low for the ego battery and will rapidly ruin the battery lifespan etc.

I've only been vaping for about two weeks. I've read this entire thread, and you seem to have been vaping a short time too (you said the eGo-T is your first PV), and I just want to recommend to you that if you have yet to drip on a standard 510 atty, you need to try it before worrying about voltage and LR attys and other esoterica. Just try it with a standard (cheap) 510 atty first. I used the carts that came with my kit for about 2 days before I started dripping, and the difference in flavor, TH and vapor is dramatic. Got my first drip-tip Saturday and I'm on straight dripping now, with excellent results.

If it were convenient to drip while out and about, I'd have zero need for carts, tanks or anything else. Dripping is the ultimate analog replacement, at least for me. Give it a try before delving into all the variable options.


About this tank system: all this extra juice it's consuming has to be going somewhere, otherwise the system would be producing huge clouds of vapor, and it doesn't seem people are getting that result. I'm wondering about people saying they have black gunk coming out when blowing the atty out. That black gunk has to be (burnt) juice, no? Something has to be inefficient in this system for it to consume a lot more juice and not produce a lot more vapor. I don't mind spending extra money to vape more juice (cigarettes were a $12/day habit), but I have to wonder: where is it going?
 

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You can't/don't. Kent just meant that he was going to change those units (battery systems) from Mega atties over to Tank-atties. A complete swap-out.

Exactly right. 'Convert' was a poor choice of words - switch over to/swap out - much better. Although I have contemplated IF a conversion is possible. Probably not worth the time and effort.
 
Status Update: Ovale USA is sending me a new atty and a sample of their juice. My TAWA is now also hopelessly clogged. Trevor, via quotes from assorted reps from around the world, emphasizes that any liquid thicker than 65PG/35VG will clog the wick. I replied back, pointing out—once again—that I have been using 70/30. To this the reply was, ah... but... you aren't using OUR liquids and YOUR liquids must have impurities that are causing the clogs. Um, yeah. <heavy sigh>

I have now forgotten what the set was like when it was brand new and worked so well that I loved it. Maybe I will simply love their juice and never have clogging again...
 

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Definitely missed it... Have never watched House, only the commercials.

Well, you likely know he is a doctor and he has a team he sometimes sends out to the patient's house to check for 'environmentals', 'drugs', etc. that may be causing symptom and sometimes they have to break in (he doesn't get consent always - "Everybody Lies"...) So one episode they had to put sleeping pill medication in steaks for a couple of dogs in order to get in :)
 

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Status Update: Ovale USA is sending me a new atty and a sample of their juice. My TAWA is now also hopelessly clogged. Trevor, via quotes from assorted reps from around the world, emphasizes that any liquid thicker than 65PG/35VG will clog the wick. I replied back, pointing out—once again—that I have been using 70/30. To this the reply was, ah... but... you aren't using OUR liquids and YOUR liquids must have impurities that are causing the clogs. Um, yeah. <heavy sigh>

I have now forgotten what the set was like when it was brand new and worked so well that I loved it. Maybe I will simply love their juice and never have clogging again...

I know nothing of Ovale's e-juice. Generally speaking the people who make the PV usually do not make juice. Or the juice they sell is junk. This is a general statement- no offense to Ovale intended.

However, since I haven't had the problems that some have reported maybe the juice issue *is* the problem.

One of the experiments I did further back in my vaping career was to test for particulates in juice which could caramelize on the atomizer. I performed this test by putting a milliliter of e-juice unto a pool of isopropyl alcohol and let the alcohol evaporate. Leaving behind the juice.

Most of the juices left behind what you would expect. A pool of PG/VG that stayed viscous. Two of the juices left areas of dry crustiness made of dark particulates. And those two juices were dark heavy juices and the issue seemed to be endemic to certain vendors.

From that time forward I became very picky about where I got juice, and insisted on knowing the ingredients. That left me with a handful of vendors, and DIY.

That being said. The juice I have tested with is simply PG/VG at 70/30 or 50/50 with flavoring added between .5% and 5%. The flavoring (Flavourart) is a PG suspension. No water or alcohol cut or flavor enhancing type things. So the juice is anywhere from 50/50 to 55/45.

Also I take issue with Ovale telling you that VG will "clog" the atomizer. Quality VG vaporizes off an atomizer leaving nothing behind. So the only thing that VG effects is the wicking. And if you were to over saturate with VG going back to a more PG based liquid would almost certainly clear the excess VG after a few tanks. Also since VG is hygroscopic a water rinse should loosen things up nicely. Also, an isopropyl alcohol soak should completely remove any juice and leave a dry atomizer.

That is unless something else in the liquid is coating the atty?

So I do not like Ovale's answer to you.

VG can create a wicking problem. But I highly doubt a permanent one. A "VG clog" or "Over saturated" atomizer should be clearable a number of ways. I've vaped 50/50 PG/VG through my atties with no problems. "Impurities", or rather compounds put in the juice for either sweetness or color, should be avoided- they can coat any atomizer. But VG in and of itself is a solvable problem should it become one.

My guess, considering people are talking about blowing out dark gunky liquid, is that some of the juices being used have sugars or other types of additives in them that simply bake onto the atty rather than vaporizing cleanly. This is a problem on standard atomizers as well. And when I hear stories of people losing atomizers in one week I wonder about the juice.

Some vendors, in the quest to give "massive" flavor, appear to really go overboard. Sometimes American juice vendors just grab ahold of a crapload of Dekang and doctor it up. Some vendors are as high as 15% flavoring on basic flavors in an attempt to get new vapers (with dead taste buds) to taste something.

And there are other vendors that do an excellent job. Perhaps they are even in the majority.

But regarding these eGo-T's my suspicion is that juice composition is the key to the successful use of them.

Also- I've only tested two atomizers. One for two weeks and then a cleaning. One for one week. Both perform satisfactorily.
 

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what is the tawa atomizer on the ovale site? How is it different than the regular ego-t? Darn, I have to go to work. Lemme know. I'm converting a friend that's interested in the ego-t. I could only send them home with 1 510-type battery and pcc and lotsa juice, now I need to set them up.

It stands for "Throw Away"

It simply has no warrantee.
 

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I just switched to DV Absinthe. Flavor is real good (if you like it to start with) and when it hits right, vapor is awesome. However my Tank atty is starting to become hit and miss after 3 days WRT to vapor production and the draw is starting to get tight. I think it is starting to have problems wicking. I am guessing it probably needs cleaning. I usually don't clean an atomiser though. Just use it till the vapor drops off significantly and throw it in a bin to use on HV mods. These are to expensive to do that with IMO (plus I don't have an adapter). So I am hoping that it is just the juice I have in the tank right now.
 

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Hey everybody,
just a quick update,
my primary ego-t atty (i have six of them) that is in constant use from december 15th, 34 days, is still performing good.
It was cleaned everytime it started clogging (it took about 7 cleaning till now).
The draw is getting a little more hard though but still acceptable.
Can't see myself going back to mega atties honestly.
If they hold up like this for a least a month i'm pretty satisfied.
 
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@ournature, what is your cleaning method?

washing under hot tap water for a couple of minutes, blowing through it a lot, soft dryburns (4-5 seconds red glowing) few times till no more funky smell coming up.
then washing again (or quick shake with pure grain alcohol) to remove dust around the coil, blowing again and another dryburn till the coil glows to get it dry.
 

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OK stupid question, how do you know the coil is glowing if you can't see it?

I had the same problem when I first tried a dry burn... You need to vape off the ejuice - I stovepiped it until no flavor. After that you see the glow but it isn't like looking at an E2 :)

And Oh yeah. Another plus - I've never flooded an atty with this.
 
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