Vocalek said:
These groups did not mention a word about being told by callers that the FDA products don't work and that e-cigarettes did work for them (the callers).
The Nicotrol inhalor only passed through the FDA because
it was never tested!!!!!!!!!!!
I tried that thing and it was more and disgusting kind of severe
harsh than any # of analogs I'd ever smoked. If the FDA wanted to help, they'd go after those that have to have chemicals that are the same or worse than any analog, including cigars. I felt like it was ripping out everything except perhaps, the nail polish from my pedicure. ----- I stopped at the second one, ill beyond belief. That's just - and the worst - approved (?) product that the public doesn't approve of, if they've tried it or spent any time with someone who has tried it. To this day, the FDA has not called for full disclosure on what is in those, even though they clearly contain something or many things that make so many people sick.
Someone also mentioned this has nothing to do helping anyone or being fair or listening to facts but is all about $, in that oncology could become obsolete costing billions or more in lost jobs, equipment and effect tuition for med schools. I find that absurd reasoning only because of so many people still smoking that are headed into needing oncology and a shortage of doctors anyway because they end up un-free to practice medicine the way they would and/or can because of rules limiting what they are capable of doing. It's actually caused many people to opt out of choosing medicine - not e-cigs.
The day the FDA investigates the Nicotrol thing before giving it a full stamp of approval might never happen but, would be the best possible news to restore public trust amongst of all smokers, ex-smokers, vapers as well as all doctors and would be doctors.
It makes me sick just thinking about it. I don't think the media helps by ignoring or slanting the reality of the public experience but colludes with mistakes these otherwise respected orgs have made at the expense of everyone so these radical groups can keep deceiving the public with a lot of misinformation. Not many people, imo, are going to go out of their way to learn about e-cigs unless, heaven forbid, they, themselves or someone close to them becomes ill as a result of the FDA basing some recommendations on a flawed argument that the pharma and medical system can't financially sustain the scientific truth.
Without the option of discussing e-cig as an optional way to reduce nic, it's the pharmas that are trampling on some vaper's 1st amendment rights by not willingly informing the public of what is in the Nicotrol things and no one else in a position to do anything, putting all that on smokers, vapers and ex-smokers. The only reason (possibly - I'm not a chemist) no one has died from using Nicotrol is because no one can tolerate what's in them, unlike e-cigs.
In CA, it's still
illegal for any doctor to support e-cigs. They HAVE to only discuss what the FDA approves and encourage, even non-vapers to not vape and vapers to stop vaping because it's approved only as a recreational tobacco product vs a medicine.
I just don't get how something like the Nicotrol slipped through the cracks and got approved as a medicine without ever being tested. I would think the orgs you mentioned would be concerned to know.
Just totally boggles the mind.
(A few threads are just waaaay too long to read every post to hope to maybe find a post that has enough of these details to get the gist of this) 
