New Kanger Box Mod- The Subox

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There's more than one way of making money in a shop. He can view you as an investment as a repeat customer too. It's a two way street in small business.

A shop with online prices would certainly see a lot of me. In my area it would probably put the other B&M stores out of business especially if it had good service. Many of the shops around here ignore me for like 20 minutes while the workers chat with each other.
 

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Tru dat. He's also experimenting with his own line of juices. So, fingers crossed!

There ya' go. The margins on juice are much better, stable, predictable and the bread and butter for many shops. This is why the anti-flavoring legislations are so terrible. They under cut how many of the small shops survive.

All this "made in a bathtub" crappola was spin the tobacco distributors sent out to smoke shops. I saw a flyer from one who was trying to get me to buy rebranded chinese eliquid because it was safer. It's painful when I hear other vapers buy into that BS. No one has ever gotten sick from so-called "made in a bathtub" juice.
 

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All this "made in a bathtub" crappola was spin the tobacco distributors sent out to smoke shops.
I would have to imagine with the state of vape industry today in 2015, the numbers are being felt by big tobacco, for sure. The term drug lord comes to mind.
 

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A shop with online prices would certainly see a lot of me. In my area it would probably put the other B&M stores out of business especially if it had good service. Many of the shops around here ignore me for like 20 minutes while the workers chat with each other.

That's sad. I get ignored too and I thought it was due to profiling. I'm a grey haired old lady and a tootie puffer. Not interested in being converted to power vaping or doing my own coils. Stores tend to throw me into the "ego class" (my imagination). Truth is, they don't carry intermediate equipment. It's beginner or mech's and rda's. The end.

However you don't seem to fit that profile so I really don't know what is going on. I'm curious.

There for awhile I thought about starting a thread on the grey haired revolt since we're getting ignored (in favor of "the kids"). A couple of years ago, the average vaper was 45+ and it seems the negative press has hit that demographic the hardest, yet they are often the hard core smoker with many decades of smoking and multiple quit attempts. IMO that should be the ideal target market for a shop.
 

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A couple of years ago, the average vaper was 45+ and it seems the negative press has hit that demographic the hardest, yet they are often the hard core smoker with many decades of smoking and multiple quit attempts. IMO that should be the ideal target market for a shop.
That's me. 45, vaping (no analogs whatsoever) for in and around a year after 30 years of burning tobacco.
 

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However you don't seem to fit that profile so I really don't know what is going on. I'm curious.

Yeah I'm 34 and would say I probably fit in the same demographic as the people ignoring me. I think most of them don't take their jobs very seriously, they just see it as a way to make a little money hanging out in the vape shop all day.
 

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Heaven Gifts lists KIT $77.50 and KBox Mini Mod $42.90.

Thus (doing the math)...I agree...a site that currently has the KIT for $49.29...should (eventually) have the KBox Mini Mod for around $27...

$49.29

Did you look at the shop offerring them for $50? There's no "buy" button on anything. I think they may be a US based distributor. I'm not sure, but that's a fictious price. I don't think it's reasonable to expect US retailers to compete with Chinese retailers (and a few other things about that), which leads to the lowest price pre-sale is $57 and the average range closer to $63-$73.

101 Vapes has the Kbox at $15 now. I've always wondered how Vapor Beast was able to support / talk Kanger into the promo price of $17. I mean, that's rock bottom for everyone. They sold thousands. The only thing I can think of was a form of advertising in advance of their release of the Subox, give people a taste of what was to come. They also had to tick off some retailers that were doing a comfortable business selling at $25-$35. Odd situation. It was successful as advertising. I don't think there would have been half the attention without it - at least online. Have to remember that the bulk of vapers are not online and have no idea what all the equipment options are.

It's just something I've thought about.
 

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Have to remember that the bulk of vapers are not online and have no idea what all the equipment options are.

It's just something I've thought about.

That's why local shops can charge double. 90% of their customers aren't looking at the retail price online before they go in. The products are new enough that most people don't know what the costs should be. Even if they do look around a bit online there are so many sites that it is hard to know what sites to price check on. The few vape products Amazon does have are close to B&M shop prices.

My nephew was looking for a mod and tank to try vaping recently and thought a decent setup would cost him $500 or more. I told him it could cost that if he wanted it to but showed him that he could spend $100 online and get everything he wanted and more.
 

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That's sad. I get ignored too and I thought it was due to profiling. I'm a grey haired old lady and a tootie puffer. Not interested in being converted to power vaping or doing my own coils. Stores tend to throw me into the "ego class" (my imagination). Truth is, they don't carry intermediate equipment. It's beginner or mech's and rda's. The end.

However you don't seem to fit that profile so I really don't know what is going on. I'm curious.

There for awhile I thought about starting a thread on the grey haired revolt since we're getting ignored (in favor of "the kids"). A couple of years ago, the average vaper was 45+ and it seems the negative press has hit that demographic the hardest, yet they are often the hard core smoker with many decades of smoking and multiple quit attempts. IMO that should be the ideal target market for a shop.
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