New member looking at getting a provari advice needed
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I don't like to interject often, but why would you push a clone? Why not give someone the best possible experience? If someone wanted to by an apple computer , why would you recommend them buying an epple ? Clones can be good but they are a crap shoot. I don't mind people who buy clones, but why push them? Maybe to make you feel better perhaps?
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Not a footballer the way I see it I spend £70-£100 a week on cigs. I like buying the best. I tried ecigs as a starter on the kanger sub mini for about 6 weeks or so as a demo (still smoked cigs but less) I had a holiday booked for 4 weeks and I stopped vaping until I got back. I want to get the best experience from ecigs and put fags down. I have read about clones being good but I don't really trust them I rather buy a cheap tank that is original.
I have read great things about cheaper tanks like the uwell. Griffin ect. If I vape for only a month I will will still have saved money and if I go back to fags at least I can say that I tried the best ecigs that money can buy.
I have ordered the kayfun mini v3 and the steel case(I like the look of it) also some kanger wire and and some rayon wick. Picked up the coil master set v3 also. Gonna see how It goes. Hopefully be here Saturday maybe Monday
Squape Rs is an excellent choice. Easiest build deck ever. Realize I am a bit late, since you have already ordered a kayfun mini. But, if you decide you need another tank, the squape is awesome.
I've got into the habit of using 32awg kanthal in my Kayfun. Tried a few other thicker wires but ramp up can take too long. 32 is nice and quick. 5 wraps, 1mm inner diameter = about 1.7 ohm. I vape it at 3.7v. Going any higher just scorches the wick. Just for tooting i get a nice satisfying vape.
Hey did you get the svoemesto cone piece ?. If not, what did you get instead ?.
Have you thought about D.I.Y e liquid ?. Dead easy to do. Just need a few things. Here's a list of Uk vendors who can supply you with what you need.
These are all in the UK, well, apart from the dropper bottles.
Here for 72mg nicotine base liquid. The UK's legal maximum for nicotine liquid is 72mg.
7.2% Nicotine (VG Base)
This is Vegetable Glycerine.
Best use this to keep the finished liquid reasonably thick.
But there again if you need it to be thinner get some Propylene Glycol nicotine base liquid. Here :
7.2% Nicotine (PG Base)
Here's some Vegetable Glycerine base/cutting liquid. Used to make the bulk of you e-liquid.
5 LITRE VEGETABLE GLYCERINE EP/USP FOOD/COSMETIC GRADE
And here's some Propylene Glycol base/cutting liquid if you prefer thinner e-liquid.
5 LITRES MPG Propylene Glycol (PG) USP/EP GRADE
Here's a page full of e liquid flavourings. Cheapest you'll find on the internet.
flavor concentrate | eBay.
This is the best place for Capella that i've found in the UK. 30ml for £5
http://thee-cigshop.co.uk/DIY/flavour-concentrates-15ml--100ml/capella-flavor-drops
I use Capella all the time. Favourite flavour for tooting is Cappuccino V2, 10%. Reminds me of smoking a ... while drinking coffee, perfect !.
And here's a place to buy some dropper bottles. These ones have a long plastic tip which make it easier to refill your tanks without having to use anything else such as a syringe. Ships from Hong Kong and takes about two weeks. I couldn't find anywhere local that sells these types of long tip bottles and i searched for ages. Trust me they are a lot more practical than any other type.
3-100ml Empty Plastic Dropper Childproof Cap Squeezable Bottles e-juice E-Liquid
You're going to need some syringes and some blunt needles. Look here :
2ml 5ml 10ml 20ml Syringes Blunt Needles Refill INK Shisha Juice Vapes Glue | eBay
The nicotine base is 72mg so a quarter of that is 18mg. So using 5ml of that equates to 18mg when you finish making say 20ml of e-liquid. Easy right !?. If you're cutting 72mg nicotine base liquid down to 18mg all you need to do is make sure the nicotine base liquid is a quarter of the total volume of the finished liquid you are making.
So to make 20ml of e-liquid with for example 18mg of nicotine.
5ml of VG nicotine base liquid.
13ml of VG cutting liquid.
2ml of flavouring.
Shake for a few minutes and you’re done.
That's how i like it. That's 90% VG / 10% PG. The flavouring is PG based.
If you do need it thinner you could use a lot more flavouring if you wanted or use the Propylene Glycol nicotine base and cutting liquids instead of VG. Propylene Glycol is thin like water. Vegetable Glycerine is much thicker. I don't know how thick you need it but some people like it much thinner.
These are all in the UK, well, apart from the dropper bottles.
Here for 72mg nicotine base liquid. The UK's legal maximum for nicotine liquid is 72mg.
7.2% Nicotine (VG Base)
This is Vegetable Glycerine.
Best use this to keep the finished liquid reasonably thick.
But there again if you need it to be thinner get some Propylene Glycol nicotine base liquid. Here :
7.2% Nicotine (PG Base)
Here's some Vegetable Glycerine base/cutting liquid. Used to make the bulk of you e-liquid.
5 LITRE VEGETABLE GLYCERINE EP/USP FOOD/COSMETIC GRADE
And here's some Propylene Glycol base/cutting liquid if you prefer thinner e-liquid.
5 LITRES MPG Propylene Glycol (PG) USP/EP GRADE
Here's a page full of e liquid flavourings. Cheapest you'll find on the internet.
flavor concentrate | eBay.
This is the best place for Capella that i've found in the UK. 30ml for £5
http://thee-cigshop.co.uk/DIY/flavour-concentrates-15ml--100ml/capella-flavor-drops
I use Capella all the time. Favourite flavour for tooting is Cappuccino V2, 10%. Reminds me of smoking a ... while drinking coffee, perfect !.
And here's a place to buy some dropper bottles. These ones have a long plastic tip which make it easier to refill your tanks without having to use anything else such as a syringe. Ships from Hong Kong and takes about two weeks. I couldn't find anywhere local that sells these types of long tip bottles and i searched for ages. Trust me they are a lot more practical than any other type.
3-100ml Empty Plastic Dropper Childproof Cap Squeezable Bottles e-juice E-Liquid
You're going to need some syringes and some blunt needles. Look here :
2ml 5ml 10ml 20ml Syringes Blunt Needles Refill INK Shisha Juice Vapes Glue | eBay
The nicotine base is 72mg so a quarter of that is 18mg. So using 5ml of that equates to 18mg when you finish making say 20ml of e-liquid. Easy right !?. If you're cutting 72mg nicotine base liquid down to 18mg all you need to do is make sure the nicotine base liquid is a quarter of the total volume of the finished liquid you are making.
So to make 20ml of e-liquid with for example 18mg of nicotine.
5ml of VG nicotine base liquid.
13ml of VG cutting liquid.
2ml of flavouring.
Shake for a few minutes and you’re done.
That's how i like it. That's 90% VG / 10% PG. The flavouring is PG based.
If you do need it thinner you could use a lot more flavouring if you wanted or use the Propylene Glycol nicotine base and cutting liquids instead of VG. Propylene Glycol is thin like water. Vegetable Glycerine is much thicker. I don't know how thick you need it but some people like it much thinner.
I knew I forgot something I'm sure I had it in my bag. Oh well will buy next time.
Regarding making my own juice I don't think I will just yet as I'm gonna be playing around with coils for a bit. Will post some pictures this week when my kayfun arrives and my 1st attempts at cool making.
For future reference if I did make my own to juice to my preference what will a 30ml juice on average cost
Regarding making my own juice I don't think I will just yet as I'm gonna be playing around with coils for a bit. Will post some pictures this week when my kayfun arrives and my 1st attempts at cool making.
For future reference if I did make my own to juice to my preference what will a 30ml juice on average cost
Your going to really enjoy it! There's a few km3 videos on utube by Qorax Stan, they are excellent and a must watch before building....also I will post a link to a km3 thread here , just incase you have any questions once you get it.
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thanks, will watch them, already watched a couple and did look pretty straight forward.
Really is an easy one for sure. What wattage do you vape?
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4 or 5 watts? well then you may be ok with the 28g wire but if you feel like it takes too long to heat, you can drop to a 30g instead. with either wires, I wouldn't go too large on diameter, 2mm max . the problem with thinner wire is that its so springy and a little harder to work with, also its so thin that the coil is flimsy and as you slide your rayon through, it can move the whole coil. the 28g is so much easier to work with , but you will have to play around and see. im not sure if this is the correct way to get you to the thread, hopefully it works. Authentic Svoemesto Kayfun Mini V3
thanks will play around with it i was reading 2mm or 2.5mm is where i need to be and around 1.5ohms.
thanks for the link
Yep those are good but it depends on the wire used. Let's say you didn't like the 28g (doubt it though) and wanted a faster vape with a thinner wire and you dropped to a 30g but kept the 2.5mm diameter. Well now you are using less wraps which might not be good . You never really want a 2 or 3 wrap because the 2 outer wraps aren't even making full wick contact anyways. Take for instance 32g, which is hardly used these days, if you were using that with a 2.5mm coil, your lucky to get 2 wraps, so it's a balancing act with everything. Anyways once you do find that combination, it's there and you don't have to worry about it
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For 30ml of D.I.Y juice ?. It should cost around the ballpark of £1.
As far as assembling a coil goes i have found that, in my kayfun, the wider the diameter of the coil the less airflow can circulate. It all gets a bit cramped in there. I was or did build a coil with thicker wire, loads of wraps, and found, apart from the ramp up taking ages, it was producing very little vapour. And that takes into account the width and length of coil too. Air doesn't reach each end of the coil anyway so even though the coil was vapourizing the liquid it wasn't getting any air. I finally decided that a much thinner wire would work best. A tiny diameter of 1mm to allow enough space for the air to flow. Threading cotton into a coil like that isn't so tricky. I just cut thinner strips. My 32g coil still last for months if i look after it.
A 1mm inner diameter allows more wraps than a coil which is 2 or 2.5mm anyway. 5 wraps gives me 1.7ohm's so i can go low at 3.7v. More wraps, which wouldn't get any air anyway, would give more ohm's. What's the point ?. More ohm's = more power. So i just build a small coil, give it plenty of air and use less power, battery last for ages at 3.7v. I wouldn't get any more vapour with a bigger coil, not in a kayfun, and the vapour i do get is exactly what i expect, great throat hit, great taste. I'm perfectly happy with this coil assembly.
A provari will give an error if too much power is being fed to a coil, and it won't fire. If i used a thicker guage wire say 28g, the ohm's would be so low that raising the power wouldn't work, i'd just get an error message. So a Kayfun on a provari needs a small diameter coil with thin wire to optimize it's performace, in every way !.
Come join us on the KM3 thread. We'd enjoy having you. And I know you will like your KM3. Diver has given you an excellent recommendation.
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