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[Tbev]

I agree with the mvp although I would recommend any version of a vamo a vamo v3 or v3 for example, is a tube that u you remove batteries and put on a charger and swap out for charged ones , very simple great device, the mvp is a box shaped like the reo sorta, and had an internal battery, plugs into wall to charge, battery lasts longer but if you can carry an extra battery w the vamo vs. Having to wait for it to charge, you can however charge your phone from the mvp, cool feature, but it kills the battery pretty fast while doing so, so it's up to you, both good and found for 40 bucks or less. All those tanks mentioned above I would recommend against due to the fact that your going to need replacement head/coils for them and they have to be the correct ones where as the Reos reomizer atty or Rda, one you have a coil I'd will last for months and all you have to do is thread cotton thru it a couple times a week.

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[Fir3b1rd]

Hi guys,

First post here! I've been reading for the past couple of weeks. Usually when I join a forum, I read for a long time before writing anything, since there is already an answer for anything. The reason I'm writing right now is that I have an emergency and seeking help from you experienced members. I, myself been vaping for about 3 weeks now but my questions are of a more important matter.

My uncle lives overseas and he recently underwent angiography. I'm trying to help him for his recovery. He's been smoking cigs for over 40 years and he smokes around 4 packs a day. As doctor stated, he can't smoke cigs anymore and it is very unlikely for him to stop, unless there's an alternative. Even though he smokes marlboro lights, he doesn't inhale it much due to his recent health problems.

So my question is which product would be the best fit for him, as he's mostly concerned about the amount of smoke? We're planning to reduce the amount of MG slowly. The money is not an issue but since my cousin will take it overseas, it has to be as reliable as possible.

Any help would be highly appreciated! Thanks in advance...

Difficult question to answer since he has never really caped before and so he won't know what style of vape he will like:
My answer will soley be based upon my opinion.
I tried several products when I started; from cigalike to ego style and none worked for varying reasons. Then I got an MVP2 which is a variable voltage and variable wattage device and can be found at www.101vape.com for 40.00. It's a very durable and reliable device. The adjustable wattage and voltage is great as it allows him to adjust the temperature of the vape. I also got an aerotank to go with it, also available at www.101vape.com for 20.00 it's a glass tank so any juice will work with it; and, it will allow him to adjust the intensity of his draw. I found the airflow control to be invaluable when I was switching from cigs to vape.
For 60.00 he can get started and hopefully from their ya'll can see what capon style he prefers. Not all devices are suitable for everyone. Some prefer mechs and high power to make large amounts of vape and they find that to be enjoyable. Some prefer a nice smooth constant vape from a regulated mod. I would say those; which the MVP is one, provide a vape more similar to what a cigarette or cigar will produce.
I am a fan of both depending on the situation. But I have always felt the MVP with an aerotank is the best starting point for the money.


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[Tbev]

Either of those devices paired with a kayfun Clone would other a vastly superior vaping experience in volume and flavor, cost around the same 30 bucks or so, and it's coiled the same as the Reos atty, you just have to replace cotton every so often, I believe a kayfun holds more juice and I know it never leaks, unlike the other mentioned inferior tanks that will eventually leak and fall apart. The kayfun is probably the most popular atty by rights, it's fantastic.

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[Tbev]

I believe you want, and it is my opinion as well, to spend a bit more money so he doesn't get frustrated, annoyed and return to cigarettes.

Personally I didn't really even care to quit smoking, however I found, in a vamo v3 and a kayfun Clone that I could get just add much of more nic without the stink and it actually tastes great.
I quit cold turkey along with my father and my mother all 2 plus packs usually 3, for a combined 110 years at least of cigs. It really is easy without having to fiddle with broken equipment, as soon as that happens, he'll light up, a friend was there to make sure mine worked every second I did the same for my family and we all vape happily ever after.

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[Tbev]

Another key thing to remember is availability of someone who can fix a problem, usually minor at any time. The better your setup is the lead babysitting necessary.

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[Fir3b1rd]

Either of those devices paired with a kayfun Clone would other a vastly superior vaping experience in volume and flavor, cost around the same 30 bucks or so, and it's coiled the same as the Reos atty, you just have to replace cotton every so often, I believe a kayfun holds more juice and I know it never leaks, unlike the other mentioned inferior tanks that will eventually leak and fall apart. The kayfun is probably the most popular atty by rights, it's fantastic.

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You don't think suggesting a rebuildable to someone overseas without any experience in vaping is a bad idea? The end user is not going to know how to build a coil. And they may have a health issue in this case that will make it difficult for them to do so.
Did you read the OP?
I don't normally step in like this but the OP is looking for a family member in Europe with health issues and they will be a new vapor. And since they are a new vapor they are not going to know how to build a coil. At least with the kanger the pieces are easy to grab and the glass will prevent cracking.

 

[Tbev]

I believe you would be correct except he mentioned that there would be someone there, cousin maybe, to help out, at the very least I am assuming they will have access to a bnm where he can pay to have coils wrapped a few times a year, and all he has to do is teach him to Renwick w cotton. I could be wrong lmk, but seriously egos starter kits having to print cartos and replace heads is as hard, will happen more often and are less reliable. I've gone through this exact situation with my folks who are older and don't even want to know how to fix anything, but they can thread cotton thru a kf and I never have to help with anything. If I'm wrong let me know, I'm only trying to help and I see your point. But you gotta admit that nobody has one ego that they have never had problems with, or even ProTank for that matter.

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[rurwin]

Vaping is a journey and where we start is only rarely where we end up, but we have to make that journey; only experience teaches us what we need and how to use the more advanced pieces of kit.

My suggestion would be an MVP2 with a Nautilus. Then a couple of 650mAh eGo batteries as backup, an EVOD or Mini Protank II and a supply of replacement coils. And a couple of chargers of course.

Get a good vanilla-flavour eliquid along with a selection of tobaccos. Tobacco flavours are never close enough to burning tobacco, but vanilla is a good substitute that doesn't try to be something it isn't.

You might consider getting him a Zamplebox subscription. Maybe the excitement and variety every month might help him, and the flavours are top quality and complex. It is around $70 a month though. Maybe consider that later, when he's had a chance to get into vaping.

All of this is easily available in the EU.

You need to do this with the knowledge and support of your uncle's doctors. We cannot advise you whether vaping is appropriate in his case. It's highly likely to be better than smoking of course, but we are not doctors and we do not know his medical history. Nicotine does affect blood pressure, it does not appear to cause the cardiovascular harm that smoking does. We can point you to the relevant research studies if you need to present evidence.

 

[Tbev]

I'm a big fan of skipping the smaller steps not only to save money buy frustration that results in lighting up, I think that's the best thing about the forums. Especially in this case he's not looking for a journey, as he stated obviously, he wants a quality, minimal hassle device to get the job done. Going thru crappy starter kits is a circlejerk in any case I think but particularly in this case.

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[Tbev]

Hell, I'll build you ten coils for a reomizer or a kayfun and send them to you for free! Really, there's at least 2 years worth of coils. No problem.

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[Fir3b1rd]

I believe you would be correct except he mentioned that there would be someone there, cousin maybe, to help out, at the very least I am assuming they will have access to a bnm where he can pay to have coils wrapped a few times a year, and all he has to do is teach him to Renwick w cotton. I could be wrong lmk, but seriously egos starter kits having to print cartos and replace heads is as hard, will happen more often and are less reliable. I've gone through this exact situation with my folks who are older and don't even want to know how to fix anything, but they can thread cotton thru a kf and I never have to help with anything. If I'm wrong let me know, I'm only trying to help and I see your point. But you gotta admit that nobody has one ego that they have never had problems with, or even ProTank for that matter.

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I understand that; but, you're making allot of assumptions. From what I've seen and experienced setting someone up above there experience level does them a disservice. Especially in a situation where health is already an issue. We don't know what their physical abilities are. As for the ego- as my post says I went through several. Hated them, that's why I suggested the MVP; it's built like a tank and it can survive a fall; hell I ran over mine with my car; and, it still works like the day I got it. As For the Atty it's allot easier for a new person with possible mobility or hand dexterity issues to change a coil from a kanger or aspire, by grabbing the chimney; rather than, than trying to thread just the right amount of cotton through a 2mm hole in a Kayfun.
I don't know about you but when I first started and my stuff screwed up, or didn't go right the first thing I did was lit a cig. I don't think we as vets should give advice that can lead to that especially when we know there are already health issues. The beginner stuff is the beginner stuff for a reason. Outside of the world of ECF most vapors use the "begginner" stuff for years and never get into all the cool stuff that we like. I know several people that have been vaping for 3 or 4 years still using egos. None have any desire for anything else. "I press the button and I get fog" is what I'm told. Hey, they're happy and tobacco free I want to promote that; not, overwhelm them with unscrewing a tiny hole with a tiny screwdriver at the bottom of a tank to stick a tiny needle into tiny hole to get juice in there; rather than unscrew the whole base and filler up. Which will be be easier with someone who potentially has dexterity problems or poor eyesite?
Don't get me wrong I love my collection of toys and vape in all different ways; I just want to advise people on what is best for their current situation. When I got my MVP, after 3 egos and 3 different cigalikes I never gave coiling a patriot or Kayfun a thought.



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[Tbev]

yes sir, that's the idea! as I said rather than getting something simple, we prefer getting something very reliable. Since my cousin will be with him, he can take care of the maintenance part..

I think it's worth it for sure if his cousin can thread cotton into a kayfun or reomizer coil, I was pretty sure that I read that.

 

[nicetucu]

I've been eyeing the Reo lately, but I think that would be too much for a beginner, even though it would be ideal in terms of needing less stuff over a long period. It's not regulated so it's more like a mechanical mod than lets say a vamo, provari, even an ego type setup.

With a Reo you can't increase voltage or wattage, you build a coil at the right ohm's for your style of vape. They look awesome and a bit hard to get your hands on anyways. 6ml bottle that you squeeze to feed the atomizer vape away and repeat.

There will be a learning curve for sure and hope he has a bit of patience and hangs in there. Perhaps put some key videos on a thumb drive for him to watch to give him some confidence of whatever setup you decide on. Good luck, hope it works out for him.

 

[Tbev]

I'm basing my information on my experience with my parents who are currently running vamos with kf's and my dad who is thrilled with the jump from kf to fogger v4, they didn't clean their 510 connector when they had carto tanks so I had to replace them BC of that, they cracked ten tanks, countless pieces, bottom cap, tubes buttons on the board, , they don't even tell me when their coils are so gunky until they can't pull at all. But they my dad's blind add a bat, big hands, shaky, but he can thread a coil, that means nothing as far as situations here are concerned but I know that the number one reason why they quit smoking is because they felt that they could rely on their mods. They had a pack of cigs for backup here or there and it was 3 months till my dad proudly handed me a half empty pack of camels and said thanks son, I never thought I'd quit smoking in a million years.

If money's no object and really were not talking about a whole lot, tell me that link I posted earlier wouldn't be pretty close to easy as it gets. Beginners but starter kits BC that's what they see, and that's what ships push, and they are kits, like bundling your telecom people like easy ready to go, then they get on here and kick them selves for spending as much on their box of broken ego ProTank spinner parts as a provari or AT LEAST a vamo / mvp costs.

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[Fir3b1rd]

I think it's worth it for sure if his cousin can thread cotton into a kayfun or reomizer coil, I was pretty sure that I read that.

So what happens when the cousin is at work or on vacation, life Happens for caregivers too. Does the cousin vape? The OP just started vaping 3 weeks ago. So, the OP, who is a new vapor, is going to teach the cousin and the uncle how to wrap a coil and then wick it, with just the right amount of cotton. Rather than get a system with a head that screws in and out without tools?
Playing devils advocate here; but, again we need to Consider what is best for the end users situation.
I'm not trying to be a jerk; but, anyone that has been in a situation where they have had health issues and needed help for day to day life sees certain situations through different eyes.
At 4 packs a day that Kayfun is going to need filling who is going use the small screwdriver and put the small needle tip into the small hole to fill the kayfun? Or would a tank that requires no tools be easier to fill? Again I'm back at the users health does he have adequate eyesite and hand dexterity to do that himself or will the OPs cousin be around often enough to do it?
Sometimes the easier things are the best.
I'm basing my responds off my experience after needing a caretaker and seeing them not ALWAYS there.
And you know your parents and you are an experienced vapor- neither of those apply in this
Situation.

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[FringeChief68]

Hi guys,

First post here! I've been reading for the past couple of weeks. Usually when I join a forum, I read for a long time before writing anything, since there is already an answer for anything. The reason I'm writing right now is that I have an emergency and seeking help from you experienced members. I, myself been vaping for about 3 weeks now but my questions are of a more important matter.

My uncle lives overseas and he recently underwent angiography. I'm trying to help him for his recovery. He's been smoking cigs for over 40 years and he smokes around 4 packs a day. As doctor stated, he can't smoke cigs anymore and it is very unlikely for him to stop, unless there's an alternative. Even though he smokes marlboro lights, he doesn't inhale it much due to his recent health problems.

So my question is which product would be the best fit for him, as he's mostly concerned about the amount of smoke? We're planning to reduce the amount of MG slowly. The money is not an issue but since my cousin will take it overseas, it has to be as reliable as possible.

Any help would be highly appreciated! Thanks in advance...

I think the best way to pick one of the ones all these nice people suggested is to look them up on YouTube and watch a video on them.
See what it takes to use it, refill it, and take care of it.

You know your uncle better then anyone here and you will know what he can or would want to go threw to vape.
The mod it's self might not be the hard part. There are a lot of great dependable mods to pick from.

The tank system or Atomizer system is the tricky part.

And a lot of which one to pick depends on how good his hands and eyes are.
So again you should YouTube the tank system and watch how to use them and decide if he can use or want to use that system.

 

[peraspera]

yes sir, that's the idea! as I said rather than getting something simple, we prefer getting something very reliable. Since my cousin will be with him, he can take care of the maintenance part..

If your cousin is capable of rebuilding and that won't be any sort of an issue going forward get a Provari/Kayfun and a Reo/Reomizer-all highly reliable gear. That way you can cover the bases as to whether your uncle prefers holding a tube or box mod and whether or not he prefers a regulated versus a non-regulated vape.

I would still toss in the NJOY Kings in case your uncle is a bit slow in adapting to being comfortable with vaping. The NJOY's are as simple to use as smoking a cigarette and the form factor/vaping experience is so similar that they can work as a good way to play a psychological trick on the brain to make one think one is having a cigarette rather than a vape.

Well wishes to your uncle and wishing him success in having a fast, happy switch to vaping.

 

[Splatnext]

Hi guys,

First post here! I've been reading for the past couple of weeks. Usually when I join a forum, I read for a long time before writing anything, since there is already an answer for anything. The reason I'm writing right now is that I have an emergency and seeking help from you experienced members. I, myself been vaping for about 3 weeks now but my questions are of a more important matter.

My uncle lives overseas and he recently underwent angiography. I'm trying to help him for his recovery. He's been smoking cigs for over 40 years and he smokes around 4 packs a day. As doctor stated, he can't smoke cigs anymore and it is very unlikely for him to stop, unless there's an alternative. Even though he smokes marlboro lights, he doesn't inhale it much due to his recent health problems.

So my question is which product would be the best fit for him, as he's mostly concerned about the amount of smoke? We're planning to reduce the amount of MG slowly. The money is not an issue but since my cousin will take it overseas, it has to be as reliable as possible.

Any help would be highly appreciated! Thanks in advance...

There have bin some solid suggestions made here, I'm going to go out a limb and trow in another one, since reliability is asked for also check out the possibility of a ProVari.

My suggestion to you is to check out all suggestions carefully, you know what might suite your uncle and go based on what might fit his needs and abilities best.

Good luck may he recover speedily and vape in good health.

 

[Tbev]

As far as vv tube devices go the provari cannot be beat, that's unanimously agreed upon. It's similar to the vamo I was speaking of but made much higher grade materials in the US, warrantied and very durable, also the chip inside makes for a more consistent electronic pulse so you will notice a improved vape over any other vv device, especially tube shaped.

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[RebelGolfer72]

You don't think suggesting a rebuildable to someone overseas without any experience in vaping is a bad idea? The end user is not going to know how to build a coil. And they may have a health issue in this case that will make it difficult for them to do so.
Did you read the OP?
I don't normally step in like this but the OP is looking for a family member in Europe with health issues and they will be a new vapor. And since they are a new vapor they are not going to know how to build a coil. At least with the kanger the pieces are easy to grab and the glass will prevent cracking.

I agree 1000% here. Rebuildables are never recommended for a new vaper. Mech mods are never recommended as well. Too easy to create a short that could create a dangerous situation in terms of battery safety. Also factor in over discharge of a battery.

One other option to explore would be carto tanks. Fairly low maintenance, can hold a lot of juice, and are a tried and true system