New Member - Need advice - next step after ecig
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Previous posts have good advice. You can use any top to almost any battery available now. Just be sure they all have the 510 threads.
I have not heard of any of the problems you post about.
I also 2nd the pico mod as it will give you the power you need to get off the stinkies. And will give you a more true 'smoking like' experience than you would get from a less powerful battery. Plus you can use almost any top you prefer on it as long as its not too wide to fit. I think 22-23 diameter is what it is.
I happen to like the melo tanks but I usually use the melo 2's. Different design same company.
MTL vapers can enjoy subohm coils also. Just because a coil is rated at .03 ohm does not mean it can't be enjoyed as a MTL vape. I use them all the time.
Also consider the higher battery for the isticks. I would start at the 30 or 40 istick. Internal batteries that you charge via usb port just like you can the pico.
One other type of coil and tank I like for the picos and or the eleaf Isticks is the eleaf gs air m tank and coils found here.
Electronic Cigarette - Best Electronic Cigarette - Vapor Cigarette Eleaf GS AIR M at www.evape.us
I am just showing the reference, I am nothing more than a customer and have no motive to try to sell you anything.
I also use the nautilus tanks and have since they came out.
I know its hard to try and decide what you like cause you really don't know. So think about what you want it to provide for you.
The obvious is to not smoke. The other things I am asking you to consider is:
Do you want it as real as possible to what you experienced with the stinkies?
How long do you want it to last before you have to recharge?
Do you want tobacco flavors or others?
What are your expections?
Food for thought.
Previous posts have good advice. You can use any top to almost any battery available now. Just be sure they all have the 510 threads.
I have not heard of any of the problems you post about.
I also 2nd the pico mod as it will give you the power you need to get off the stinkies. And will give you a more true 'smoking like' experience than you would get from a less powerful battery. Plus you can use almost any top you prefer on it as long as its not too wide to fit. I think 22-23 diameter is what it is.
I happen to like the melo tanks but I usually use the melo 2's. Different design same company.
MTL vapers can enjoy subohm coils also. Just because a coil is rated at .03 ohm does not mean it can't be enjoyed as a MTL vape. I use them all the time.
Also consider the higher battery for the isticks. I would start at the 30 or 40 istick. Internal batteries that you charge via usb port just like you can the pico.
One other type of coil and tank I like for the picos and or the eleaf Isticks is the eleaf gs air m tank and coils found here.
Electronic Cigarette - Best Electronic Cigarette - Vapor Cigarette Eleaf GS AIR M at www.evape.us
I am just showing the reference, I am nothing more than a customer and have no motive to try to sell you anything.
I also use the nautilus tanks and have since they came out.
I know its hard to try and decide what you like cause you really don't know. So think about what you want it to provide for you.
The obvious is to not smoke. The other things I am asking you to consider is:
Do you want it as real as possible to what you experienced with the stinkies?
How long do you want it to last before you have to recharge?
Do you want tobacco flavors or others?
What are your expections?
Food for thought.
iSticks starting with the 30 have stainless threads. Recommend stainless always when 510 threads are involved. A Nautilus can also be powered by a pen type battery but as most such batteries expect the larger eGo thread (outside) to mainly be used they're usually plated brass connectors. The iStick Pico is more powerful and versatile than the 30 but I do like better how the 30 feels in the hand. I think mine's not holding a charge quite as well after 15 months. As everything wears out on them eventually, internal battery wouldn't be a problem if you could always be assured you can buy another one, but that will probably not be the case after 8/8/18.
I recommend at least 2 units of some kind -- for now maybe the V2s are backup though. A cheap (original single coil) EVOD clone is also good backup and pocket carry. A new generation of AIO (all in one) are out and fit the pocket even better, but I haven't tried them and I usually get low hit to miss ratios on the subject of flavor when trying atomizers.
I recommend at least 2 units of some kind -- for now maybe the V2s are backup though. A cheap (original single coil) EVOD clone is also good backup and pocket carry. A new generation of AIO (all in one) are out and fit the pocket even better, but I haven't tried them and I usually get low hit to miss ratios on the subject of flavor when trying atomizers.
Okay guys, what this thread has done is to make sure I speak to the group and ask some questions (all of which has been discussed in this thread) that I have not asked or thought about, thus, getting answers that will guide each and everyone of us down the right path. Each of us might want different devices that fit our specific needs. I honestly can see that happening just based on this thread
I think I was failing because of the "lets all get the same thing" and go from their since we started on step one together.
With regards to the V2 EX, it worked to get us off the analogs, but as a backup or anything else, hell no. It's just to basic and defined and honestly the juice to me at least tastes like crap and the other kinda feel the same way.
I know two of us will be moving to fruity candy sweet like flavors and there is one die hard menthol guy.
I look forward to talking with them tomorrow to ask the right questions and if we need further guidance based on the answers, I will post back up in this thread. Stay tuned, you're not rid of me just yet, hahahaha.
To everyone, thank you for bearing with me
I think I was failing because of the "lets all get the same thing" and go from their since we started on step one together.
With regards to the V2 EX, it worked to get us off the analogs, but as a backup or anything else, hell no. It's just to basic and defined and honestly the juice to me at least tastes like crap and the other kinda feel the same way.
I know two of us will be moving to fruity candy sweet like flavors and there is one die hard menthol guy.
I look forward to talking with them tomorrow to ask the right questions and if we need further guidance based on the answers, I will post back up in this thread. Stay tuned, you're not rid of me just yet, hahahaha.
To everyone, thank you for bearing with me
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You are not wrong.
Many companies are also engaged in the practice of bending the internet to their own ends. Masses of recommendations, top reviews on fake review sites. Large commissions to reviewers.
You would have though this would be over by now.... but no! Ugly business propped up by communities that can't be bothered to fight. It's just the selfish attitude. I can understand it from businesses (they are there to make money) but the community is also implicated. People (vaping celebrities) supposedly 'worshiped' by the community creaming money off the unsuspecting. Entire online magazines/blogs and websites devoted to misleading the buyers.
Shameful.
The thing is.. how much money do you feel like wasting, do you want to buy something that you'll regret later?
I always advise people to go with a decent kit NOW instead of later, something decent that will grow with you instead of you having to upgrade several times.
That said, I also second the Pico, including the Melo3 tank.
It's a proven mod, with the ability for all the metal types at this time, fairly easy to use, solid and so far, I've yet to hear of a single one that failed/died on anyone (and it's been a very popular one too, so lots out there). The ability to switch batteries is a "must" as far as I'm concerned, I'll never buy another non-replaceable battery mod. If the Pico is too small, then consider something like the Aster or the Evic -VTC mini. If battery life is important, then go for a dual battery mod (I have the TC100W from Eleaf and finding it hard to find a better priced better quality or better designed mod), where the battery can last about 4 times longer due to being a lot less harsh on the batteries.
The tanks I now absolutely advise against is the nautilus as it's a tank that most will praise, but yet, few stay with, the coils are far from the greatest. My wife and daughter were convinced to get some, and I simply never liked them, and once they tried better tanks, those nautilus are long forgotten in a drawer somewhere. The several vape groups I'm in, the Nautilus (and now the "X") are always praise to heck, but then a week later, are sold off or traded off, etc. the moment the person discovers that there's so much better out there.
The Melo 3 is a tank that's part of the largest cross-compatible coil family, so you have about 20+ choices of coils (which speaks to the quality of the design), and when it comes to MTL over DL, most tanks are easily adaptable to either... for MTL, simply close the airflow and lower the power output to where you're fine and happy with it. One thing you can do is simply get a different tip with more restricted airflow.
My go-to is still my Melo 2 (which has a much better fill system), even over my newer RTAs.
Here's a listing of the "family" of tanks that all have coils that fit each other:
http://..................com/threads/aspire-atlantis-coil-fits.110143/
Note, that these coils are actually very easy to rebuild: Vaperrasso cCell rebuilding
I always advise people to go with a decent kit NOW instead of later, something decent that will grow with you instead of you having to upgrade several times.
That said, I also second the Pico, including the Melo3 tank.
It's a proven mod, with the ability for all the metal types at this time, fairly easy to use, solid and so far, I've yet to hear of a single one that failed/died on anyone (and it's been a very popular one too, so lots out there). The ability to switch batteries is a "must" as far as I'm concerned, I'll never buy another non-replaceable battery mod. If the Pico is too small, then consider something like the Aster or the Evic -VTC mini. If battery life is important, then go for a dual battery mod (I have the TC100W from Eleaf and finding it hard to find a better priced better quality or better designed mod), where the battery can last about 4 times longer due to being a lot less harsh on the batteries.
The tanks I now absolutely advise against is the nautilus as it's a tank that most will praise, but yet, few stay with, the coils are far from the greatest. My wife and daughter were convinced to get some, and I simply never liked them, and once they tried better tanks, those nautilus are long forgotten in a drawer somewhere. The several vape groups I'm in, the Nautilus (and now the "X") are always praise to heck, but then a week later, are sold off or traded off, etc. the moment the person discovers that there's so much better out there.
The Melo 3 is a tank that's part of the largest cross-compatible coil family, so you have about 20+ choices of coils (which speaks to the quality of the design), and when it comes to MTL over DL, most tanks are easily adaptable to either... for MTL, simply close the airflow and lower the power output to where you're fine and happy with it. One thing you can do is simply get a different tip with more restricted airflow.
My go-to is still my Melo 2 (which has a much better fill system), even over my newer RTAs.
Here's a listing of the "family" of tanks that all have coils that fit each other:
http://..................com/threads/aspire-atlantis-coil-fits.110143/
Note, that these coils are actually very easy to rebuild: Vaperrasso cCell rebuilding
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Okay guys n gals,
Based on an in depth conversation with my coworkers, we have decided based on your good advice to go the route of a mod that takes a replaceable battery.
Everyone liked the eleaf pico 75W TC body for all the reasons you guys advised.
The group would like to know if there are any other suggestions in the price range that is similar to the eleaf pico that we should consider with a replaceable battery?
Even though the tank in not 100% decided, thus far we are considering the nautilus mini and mini triton. Again, this is not set in stone. They like the fact that the coils are readily available in our area so ordering online would be less. We can always change the tanks down the line depending on each individuals needs, etc.
Again, thank you for the help, we really appreciate it
Based on an in depth conversation with my coworkers, we have decided based on your good advice to go the route of a mod that takes a replaceable battery.
Everyone liked the eleaf pico 75W TC body for all the reasons you guys advised.
The group would like to know if there are any other suggestions in the price range that is similar to the eleaf pico that we should consider with a replaceable battery?
Even though the tank in not 100% decided, thus far we are considering the nautilus mini and mini triton. Again, this is not set in stone. They like the fact that the coils are readily available in our area so ordering online would be less. We can always change the tanks down the line depending on each individuals needs, etc.
Again, thank you for the help, we really appreciate it
Also, do we have to be concerned about battery over charging if charged in the body itself? Is this an issue with all mods that take separate batteries?
I think the Nautilus mini is a good tank with good vapor production and good flavor.
That said, I prefer my Ego One Mega tanks. The CLR coils are easy to dry burn and rewick and can be rebuilt easily when you get to that point. They don't include coils with the tank so you will need to buy at least one 5 pack. I would buy the 1 ohm coils for MTL.
There is a newer version that is easier to see your juice level. Vapecrawler
That said, I prefer my Ego One Mega tanks. The CLR coils are easy to dry burn and rewick and can be rebuilt easily when you get to that point. They don't include coils with the tank so you will need to buy at least one 5 pack. I would buy the 1 ohm coils for MTL.
There is a newer version that is easier to see your juice level. Vapecrawler
Okay guys n gals,
Based on an in depth conversation with my coworkers, we have decided based on your good advice to go the route of a mod that takes a replaceable battery.
Everyone liked the eleaf pico 75W TC body for all the reasons you guys advised.
The group would like to know if there are any other suggestions in the price range that is similar to the eleaf pico that we should consider with a replaceable battery?
Even though the tank in not 100% decided, thus far we are considering the nautilus mini and mini triton. Again, this is not set in stone. They like the fact that the coils are readily available in our area so ordering online would be less. We can always change the tanks down the line depending on each individuals needs, etc.
Again, thank you for the help, we really appreciate it
As per my post above, there's the Eleaf Aster that is a very comparable mod to the Pico, and the Evic -VTC mini, both price wise and quality. I strongly advise against any "mini" tanks as you'll be stuck with smaller coils that aren't as popular and unpredictable to going out of style (making availability problematic), locking you down, AND "mini" means smaller tank so usually 2ml instead of 4+ml with standard tanks, which after a while, having to refill it constantly.
Aster: FastTech - Gadgets and Electronics
Evic -VTC mini: FastTech - Gadgets and Electronics
Note that if the Triton interests you, the normal one uses the same coils as the Melo tank anyways... (and I find the Triton V1 better than the V2), and again, most tanks can be used as mtl with closing the airfeed, lowering the wattage and getting a smaller bore tip.
I have charged my mods (several Eleaf ones, and a Evic -VTC mini) regularly without any problems... something that I know that many other brands, including the DNA types have had trouble... again, it's part of the quality thing.
But that said, getting a few extra batteries (and get brand names, Sony, LG and Samsung, do NOT get the other off brands that are actually rewraps of the rejects from the brand names) is a good idea, and having a good charger such as the Nitecore D2 or D4 is a good idea, just make sure that you get proper battery containers to carry them around... I prefer the silicon "condoms"...(like these: $6.05 18650 Battery Protective Silicone Sleeve Case (10 Pieces) 10-pack - random colors at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping). Look up battery safety to be aware of handling as these aren't alkalines, they are lithiums and require to be very respected.
I still like my Joyetech Evic mini VTC. There's a new one now as well (I have no opinion as I didn't jump for that one).. A little more expensive than Pico.
People seemed to turn on it when the Pico arrived, I can't see the difference in the real world, other than the size.
If I was brave, I'd consider the SD Mini evolv 75w DNA. Conservative looks but a good chip, surely.
Again, not the smallest.
I love my kangertech kbox mini's, they have the height of a smoke pack and about half the width, not bad for 75w.
Since I've quit buying Aspire, maybe this is the way forward?
Which tank do you think I should look for?... there are quite a few but I know I like the sound of the CLR head/coils.
This is admittedly a controversial subject. Although there are a lot of people who charge their external batteries inside the mod via the onboard charger, most veterans choose to use a separate box charger like an Xtar, Nitecore, or Efest.
If there were to be an issue with the onboard charger, both the battery and the mod could go up in flames (We are talking about lithium ion batteries after all). Most box chargers charge batteries faster than onboard USB chargers. Box chargers are arguably safer than onboard chargers. Box chargers often have more options available in how to charge your batteries.
Guide to Choosing a Li-ion Battery Charger
- Guide to help a novice in choosing a charger. Covers recommended brands; suggestions for the number of charging bays you'll need, discusses what independent charging bays are, LED and Liquid Crystal Display models, and "smart chargers".
The only ones I own are the original Ego One Mega, the 1.8 ml and Tron S. They all use the same coils. I think they are all comparable. The 1.8 ml is a bit hard to fill. Small space between the chimney and outer wall. The airflow is a bit tighter also but just a bit.
I like the looks of the Mega V2.
Mega V2
Original Mega
Tron S
Ego One CLR coil
gandymarsh: I discussed rebuilding coils and no one is interested at this particular time. In the future who knows, we are just not at that point yet. We are just about to step into step 2.
Cheallaigh: I will read that tonight and tomorrow, thank you.
Imfallen_Angel: I will look into those mods and so will my coworkers. With regards to the tank mini vs non mini something we will consider. With regards to the brand battery, yes, we would only stick with top notch batteries, something we discussed today. We also discussed chargers but only the fact that we might need to get some and extra batteries. I will read about battery safety as mentioned above.
Djsvapour: We will look into the SD Mini evolv 75w DNA as looks are not that important to us. Quality and function are.
Cheallaigh: We will into the kangertech kbox mini.
Baditude: As mentioned we understand that down the line a separate charge and extra batteries will be needed.
More conversations to be had, thanks all!!
Cheallaigh: I will read that tonight and tomorrow, thank you.
Imfallen_Angel: I will look into those mods and so will my coworkers. With regards to the tank mini vs non mini something we will consider. With regards to the brand battery, yes, we would only stick with top notch batteries, something we discussed today. We also discussed chargers but only the fact that we might need to get some and extra batteries. I will read about battery safety as mentioned above.
Djsvapour: We will look into the SD Mini evolv 75w DNA as looks are not that important to us. Quality and function are.
Cheallaigh: We will into the kangertech kbox mini.
Baditude: As mentioned we understand that down the line a separate charge and extra batteries will be needed.
More conversations to be had, thanks all!!
I understand completely. It took awhile for me to try rebuilding.
The thing is, disposable coils can get expensive after awhile. When they stop working well, you throw them in the garbage. With coils like the CLR, you can use them until they get gunked up and save them for the future. An old film canister will hold 10 to 15 of them.
I've been using the CLR coils for quite awhile now and haven't rebuilt one yet. When they get gunked up, I pull the old wick out, dry burn (I use a dental brush to clean the inside of the coil) and put some fresh cotton or rayon in. This can be done several times before the wire is worn out. Cotton and rayon are dirt cheap.
The CLR coils are about the same price as the disposable ones.
^^ I see your point and it totally makes sense and that could be in our future but for now all three of us want to keep things pretty simple and progress naturally each in our own way.
We are not at the fork in the road yet where we all go in different directions vape wise.
We are still deciding on the next step after an ecig (literally)
We are not at the fork in the road yet where we all go in different directions vape wise.
We are still deciding on the next step after an ecig (literally)
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