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That's too bad, Abdul, but I'm glad you are able to get your supplies, nevertheless....

And I love what you said, "Smokers will start vaping, regardless..." That is so true. I know the FDA/government is a large, powerful entity, and I also know, FDA, that despite any regulations, I will find a way to vape how I need/want. I know it gets scary, but the strength in numbers here is that a) people import meds all the time from overseas, for example. As long as the FDA doesn't declare this a felony, it's going to be fine, a very small number of items will be turned back (I defy any postal service to really check well) some things will be more expensive, and despite that, I plan to get to a DIY point where I *have* what I need while I'm watching all this play out...

Good luck, welcome, happy vaping!

Anna
 
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In fact it is not legal
But all smokers quit smoking and began to Vaping :)
We request the equipment and accessories from abroad unfortunately
Welcome and glad you joined.
The USA is starting to go down the ban vaping road. Smoking can be deadly to people. Why would a country ban a vaping solution to combat smoking? Vaping can save lives. Just goes to show, whether you live in a monarchy (absolute,unitary state, Islamic state) or a "quasi"democracy, bad actors feed the wrong information to gullible and often well meaning people.
 

stols001

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I'm not entirely sure what kind of Goverment the US has, anymore, really.

My main beef (apart from lobbyists), is that the checks and balances system (while it was a great idea) just makes it impossible to get anything done, ever, it sometimes seems like, though I have finally naturalized since I can keep my secondary citizenship, I really want to be able to flee to AUS if necessary, with my family, LOL. I've watched Congress in action and even appeared as an "expert" (kid stuff, CPS stuff, MH stuff, and what they were doing W/R/T funding0 and it's disturbing. I remember talking and watching the aides and the Senators just pay *absolutely no attention* to what I said, and it was disturbing.... You work SO FEW days a year and this is your "work ethic"? Also, we're a democracy except that we aren't and twice recently the popular vote was messed up? (Though, I adored neither Gore nor Hillary, I just don't get how the ELECTORAL college, basically politicians, is supposedly a "representative democracy" in even name only.

That also being said, I love so many things about the US, and I *don't* believe I'd want to be anywhere else at this point, nor do I think any kind of socialized approach is going to work either, and I've watched the Brits in Parliament, they are MORE entertaning, honestly, sometimes it comes to blows.

I just want-- term limits (more of them) reasonable campaign contributions, and the total extermination of all lobbyists who are doing it *professionally*. That was never the intended course of things.....

But I digress. I don't think the FDA wishes to *ban everything*, they just want to take over the market so that if a) it ends up really becoming the former tobacco industry, which is dying, they'll make out and b) for people to fail and go back to smoking. So, it wants to ban everything *useful* while taxing (and getting paid off by BT). Which in some ways is worse.... TBH I wouldn't mind a reasonable tax on vape gear and some *sensible* precautions, I'm a reasonable human being and like anyone I don't LOVE paying more taxes, and as far as I'm concerned, any taxation money should head STRAIGHT to harm reduction and promoting vaping. That would be the ONLY way I would be remotely happy, but of course, I doubt it will happen.

Anna
 
I faced the same problem abdulaziz when i started vaping but there are sellers here in khobar and jubail ryt now but they are selling by getting vape stuff from some channels but prices are reasonable unlike the shops in the area . i know people selling them in khobar , dammam and jubail dont know about the other regions
 
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