NEW MODS!! The PrecisePlus 18500 & 18350.

[k3vin]

yea,I should be ok with it I believe..I can use 510lr's for a month at a time...

 

[rojo]

OK,since I am getting an 18350,I needed to get a great atty.last night I ordered an HH357 1.5 atty..

Admittedly, I've never tried an HH357. For what it's worth, the CoV dual coil atties are very nice for direct dripping as well. I highly recommend trying one or two.

 

[forcedfuel50]

Good morning everyone! I read through the posts and it looks like most of the questions were answered by other helpful and knowledgeable forum members, so a big thank you! If i missed any questions, fire away as i'll be stopping in periodically today!

I'm pretty excited about releasing those PrecisePlus 18650's. Thinking Wednesday?

 

[nocturn4l3030]

can someone tell me how long it takes for them to ship out the order? I ordered on the 13th, and at that time, the website says takes about 5 days to ship. it's been 11 days now... i'm wondering if they didn't get my order or something. =[

 

[forcedfuel50]

can someone tell me how long it takes for them to ship out the order? I ordered on the 13th, and at that time, the website says takes about 5 days to ship. it's been 11 days now... i'm wondering if they didn't get my order or something. =[

I apologize for the delay, it just wasn't happening in 5 days so i had to change it to approximately 10 so yours will ship out anyday now and i'll send you out a tracking number too. I pretty much should have all pending PrecisePlus orders out by weeks end.

David

 

[revolver]

My daily six puffs, as usual...

Heaven... Pure Bliss. Heaven !!!

 

[revolver]

Vaporologist; Atavanhalen, an other Precise Gurus out there:

I dont really feel like browsing so could you fill me in on how long I am to expect my AW 18,490 to last if chain-vaping ??

2. Also: What voltage should it read when it won't deliver enough power ???

3. Which is the Best batt's choice for my 18,500 ??

And Last but not Least: 4. Which is the difference in configuration 18,490 VS 18,500 ??

I know David and You have all mentioned these before, but I DO not remember "precisely"... !!!

Thanks a lot !!!

PS: Confession: Today, instead of six... It was more of a tenish... !!!

Huuuuuuuuuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahh !!!

 

[K*Rose]

Admittedly, I've never tried an HH357. For what it's worth, the CoV dual coil atties are very nice for direct dripping as well. I highly recommend trying one or two.

Thanks, I'm gonna check those out. Do they last for awhile?

 

[Vaporologist]

Hey revolver,

1. It's difficult to specify the amount of time since juice consumption varies for everyone during any give time period. Also, the resistance of your atty will play a huge role in how quickly the battery gets drained. I get between 3-5 hours with the AW IMR 18490 batt before I change it out. But keep in mind that I usually like to change batts at around 3.9V. YMMV...

2. IMR battery is considered an empty cell at 3.6V which is also its resting voltage. You can drain it much lower than that but it's not advised. By the time you reach 3.5 or 3.4V, you will not be getting any satisfactory performance. The rule of thumb is to just replace it when you notice performance drop which for most people is between 3.6-3.8 volts.

3. Since I use LR atties at 3.7V, I only use AW IMR 18490 batt in my P+500. If you use standard resistance atties (2.3 ohm and higher), you will probably enjoy longer run times you will get from the protected 18500 batt.

4. Red 18490 is IMR or high drain battery needed for LR applications. It's safer chemistry and does not require a protection circuit. The black 18500 is a Li-Ion battery which has a lower maximum discharge rate and requires a protection circuit to due it's less safer chemistry and works well with standard or higher resistance atties which have lower amp requirements.

 

[revolver]

Hey revolver,

1. It's difficult to specify the amount of time since juice consumption varies for everyone during any give time period. Also, the resistance of your atty will play a huge role in how quickly the battery gets drained. I get between 3-5 hours with the AW IMR 18490 batt before I change it out. But keep in mind that I usually like to change batts at around 3.9V. YMMV...

I know that there are many factors to the equation, however this "general formulae" seems to be right; matching my experience today, as I noticed after my ten puffs or so (I am not using my unit more than that because I do not have the switch spring yet, heee!) the power was not enough and the voltage would read 3,8 and two puffs later 3,7 on my Provari. The battery was an AW IMR and the atty was a 1,8 ohms 306. However, my batt was low when I started using it on my P+, because I had been using it with my Provari, so I wouldn´t know how long it would take to get there...
The 3-5 hours "general" average you mention is chain-vaping, is that correct !?
Just for me to know what to expect... Please clarify.
=)

2. IMR battery is considered an empty cell at 3.6V which is also its resting voltage. You can drain it much lower than that but it's not advised. By the time you reach 3.5 or 3.4V, you will not be getting any satisfactory performance. The rule of thumb is to just replace it when you notice performance drop which for most people is between 3.6-3.8 volts.

I shall certainly change batts when I feel they are not delivering enough power. However, just out of plain curiosity: Why isnt it advised to drain them lower than 3.6V !? This may be unsafe ? What may happen ??
Just asking coz Im curious and I really am learning about batts...
=)

3. Since I use LR atties at 3.7V, I only use AW IMR 18490 batt in my P+500. If you use standard resistance atties (2.3 ohm and higher), you will probably enjoy longer run times you will get from the protected 18500 batt.

Ok, ok... This is something... I need to take notes here... Could really use your input:
There are no AW IMR 18.500 ? Is this so?
The only batt capable of firing LRs fully are the 18,490 IMR (AW) for P+18,500, is this correct?
They are the most powerful IMRs for the P+ 18,500 ? The 1,100 mAh AW IMR "red", I mean... ?
I mean, I could use the 18,500 protected but they simply won't be so powerful, right?
So, basically 18,490 AW IMR are best for LRs, otherwise (2,3 ohms or so): 18,500 AW protected... !?

4. Red 18490 is IMR or high drain battery needed for LR applications. It's safer chemistry and does not require a protection circuit. The black 18500 is a Li-Ion battery which has a lower maximum discharge rate and requires a protection circuit to due it's less safer chemistry and works well with standard or higher resistance atties which have lower amp requirements.

I get this, great...
But by configuration I meant the difference between 18,500 and 18,490 set up in terms of o-rings and so, just to make sure...

THANKS A LOT VPRLGST !!! And sorry I am being a pain, heee !!! I usually am!!!


PS: Ok... Finally, they weren't 10 puffs but as of right now, more than twenty... Springless !!!
And BTW: "Springless" vaping my Precise Rocks !!!

Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh !!!

PS Bis: Is Springless Vaping not safe (if I constantly check that the switch doesnt get "plugged", so to speak, out of heat or so, I guess...). I mean, other than my unit getting to get 'plugged' firing, which other risks are there ? And how likely is this event of "getting plugged firing" ? Because, in a worst case senario, if I simply unscrew the cap, I am done; no problem, right !?

 

[forcedfuel50]

PS Bis: Is Springless Vaping not safe (if I constantly check that the switch doesnt get "plugged", so to speak, out of heat or so, I guess...). I mean, other than my unit getting to get 'plugged' firing, which other risks are there ? And how likely is this event of "getting plugged firing" ? Because, in a worst case senario, if I simply unscrew the cap, I am done; no problem, right !?

Without the spring, you are not making as good of a connection as you should, the unit is dual grounding, and the spring serves as an electrical path (as well as friction grounding from the button to the shield), so you may notice more vapor and throat hit once you get the spring in and it's making the best connection it should.

There are IMR 18500's, only AW calls them IMR 18490's. Since they don't have a protection circuit, they are a MM or so shorter.

 

[bmwjen]

The P+ 18350 & I just got back from running errands (yes, it is its own entity). I'm still on the battery that I left the house with earlier this morning. I took 2 batteries for backup, but didn't need them. Sometimes I just like holding the P+ up to my ear to hear how strong it fires.

It was a pretty good vape mail day, as I got some twinkie juice in the mail. However it's not organic, so it'll probably get PIF'd.

Someone poked fun at me the other night because I said that the contact on my new Precise "is rhodium plated".......like they thought that I thought I was hot stuff or something..... Well, I am hot stuff, because the new Precise is hot stuff & I've got one.

Congrats K3vin!!

This shall end my ECF post for the day.

Can't wait til Wednesday. I'll be working, so Wing..........don't buy them all!!!! Save me at least one!

 

[Vaporologist]

Without the spring, you are not making as good of a connection as you should, the unit is dual grounding, and the spring serves as an electrical path (as well as friction grounding from the button to the shield), so you may notice more vapor and throat hit once you get the spring in and it's making the best connection it should.

There are IMR 18500's, only AW calls them IMR 18490's. Since they don't have a protection circuit, they are a MM or so shorter.

Wow, I'm glad you posted this... I was not aware that the spring plays that role. Thanks.

 

[rojo]

Thanks, I'm gonna check those out. Do they last for awhile?

They're too new to tell, but I imagine they will. Each coil is a 3 ohm coil run in parallel for a 1.5 ohm load. The individual coils don't burn quite as hot as a single 1.5 ohm coil, so I am guessing that the one I have (so far) will outlast a couple of Joye 1.5's.


The one drawback that I've found for them is that they tend to gunk up a little sooner than my Joye attys. I vape on 50/50 PG/VG. They may be a little friendlier toward a thinner / higher PG mixed ejuice.


They're definitely worth a try, though. Flavor and vapor production on them is nirvana.

 

[vapn]

Wow, I'm glad you posted this... I was not aware that the spring plays that role. Thanks.

O yea..... I actually put a little dab of noalox on the ends of the spring.... helps a lot. Maybe the spring should be rodium also?

 

[snork]

... I am hot stuff, because the new Precise is hot stuff & I've got one.

What she said.

 

[Vaporologist]

O yea..... I actually put a little dab of noalox on the ends of the spring.... helps a lot. Maybe the spring should be rodium also?

Hehe, you read my mind

Speaking of Rhodium... Today marks precisely one month since I received my P+500. I am pleased to report that, aside from occasional wiping of the juice-well, I have not had to clean anything on this baby yet. All contact points appear to look no different than they day I received this PV and it seems to hit the same as it did on day one. Pretty awesome imo!

I wonder how long it will go...

 

[AlmightyGod]

Stalking....waiting to send in my P10, P16, & P18 for reconditioning & upgrades.

 

[Wingapo]

I leave you guys alone for one day and you go all gushy over your new Precise+'s like never before. I missed all the fun.

 

[atavanhalen]

I know that there are many factors to the equation, however this "general formulae" seems to be right; matching my experience today, as I noticed after my ten puffs or so (I am not using my unit more than that because I do not have the switch spring yet, heee!) the power was not enough and the voltage would read 3,8 and two puffs later 3,7 on my Provari. The battery was an AW IMR and the atty was a 1,8 ohms 306. However, my batt was low when I started using it on my P+, because I had been using it with my Provari, so I wouldn´t know how long it would take to get there...
The 3-5 hours "general" average you mention is chain-vaping, is that correct !?
Just for me to know what to expect... Please clarify.
=)

3-5hours chain vaping would be a good estimate.

I shall certainly change batts when I feel they are not delivering enough power. However, just out of plain curiosity: Why isnt it advised to drain them lower than 3.6V !? This may be unsafe ? What may happen ??
Just asking coz Im curious and I really am learning about batts...
=)

Imr batts do not have any type of cutoff protection so they will continue to drain all the way and once they go to low, they can not be recharged safely. I am not a batt expert but that is what I think I remember.

Ok, ok... This is something... I need to take notes here... Could really use your input:
There are no AW IMR 18.500 ? Is this so?
The only batt capable of firing LRs fully are the 18,490 IMR (AW) for P+18,500, is this correct?
They are the most powerful IMRs for the P+ 18,500 ? The 1,100 mAh AW IMR "red", I mean... ?
I mean, I could use the 18,500 protected but they simply won't be so powerful, right?
So, basically 18,490 AW IMR are best for LRs, otherwise (2,3 ohms or so): 18,500 AW protected... !?

I prefer the imr because they hold a higher voltage through the length of the charge but the protected 18500 can power a lr atty no problem at all and will in theory last longer. The protected 18500aw can put out what a 1.5atty needs no problem, I just like the extra oomph.

I get this, great...
But by configuration I meant the difference between 18,500 and 18,490 set up in terms of o-rings and so, just to make sure...

THANKS A LOT VPRLGST !!! And sorry I am being a pain, heee !!! I usually am!!!

David sets up the orings according to which batt you will be using most often, I believe it is one oring for the protected 18500 and two for the imr.