New Starter to Vaping.

[JYB84]

Hi all.

Just wanted to say hello.

I have posted a couple of questions on the UK forum, link below...
Feel free to head over there and give me some advice

New Starter

Edit, Link doesn't seem to work.... I am new to Forums. I have put the quote below from my original thread, feel free to advise.

Afternoon all,

I am new to Vaping, I am on Day5 so far and not had a cigarette yet!!! I have half wanted to quit for a couple of years just never enjoyed the cheap e-cigs. Then I found out about vaping with MODS and the hits/amount of smoke these things can do!!

My set-up is a Coolfire 4 with a Kangertech Nano 0.5 ohms. Currently using Cosmic Fog Kryptonite which I got yesterday (15ml 3mg) and nearly ran out already!! This is due to the Nicotine I think, so will be going to a higher mg next time.

Couple of questions I would like some advice on please...

I will have to change to the 1.2 ohms once the 0.5 is broke.
Will I notice a massive difference when I change?
How long do the coils normally last?

The Details for the 0.5ohms in the Nano says it works upto 30Watts and the 1.2ohms works upto 25Watts. Are these details set in stone? Will I break something if I vape at 35Watts??

Thanks for your time!!

Cheers

 

[HotRodCarts]

Welcome. Feel free to ask advice here.

 

[JYB84]

Welcome. Feel free to ask advice here.

Cheers mate, I have posted my original questions above now, if you have some spare time

 

[Dextrose]

Welcome @JYB84 to ECF

 

[BrotherBob]

Welcome and glad you joined.

 

[djsvapour]

Hi!

If you vape Cosmic Fog in a Nano (0.5ohm) at 35 watts you will almost certainly not do so for very long.

Even 25 watts can be hit and miss.

So, no, you won't break anything. You might have a bad experience though.

I use the 1.2 and the 0.5. I can tell the difference, but it's only really airflow as far as I can tell. At the same watts, it's basically the same vape.

 

[JYB84]

Hi!

If you vape Cosmic Fog in a Nano (0.5ohm) at 35 watts you will almost certainly not do so for very long.

Even 25 watts can be hit and miss.

So, no, you won't break anything. You might have a bad experience though.

I use the 1.2 and the 0.5. I can tell the difference, but it's only really airflow as far as I can tell. At the same watts, it's basically the same vape.

Thanks mate. I'll try my 1.2 out tonight I think, see if I can notice.

Please elaborate on why I won't use it at above 25 watts for long? I don't understand? You mean because of the heat? The heat doesn't bother me l... I feel I need it that high to feel like I'm smoking something.

Look forward to your advice.

 

[Wake'n'Vape]

Welcome! I've found this forum to be super helpful, especially when your just starting out. Ask as many questions (stupid or not) as you need to and you will get some great info/responses.

 

[kbeam418]

Thanks mate. I'll try my 1.2 out tonight I think, see if I can notice.

Please elaborate on why I won't use it at above 25 watts for long? I don't understand? You mean because of the heat? The heat doesn't bother me l... I feel I need it that high to feel like I'm smoking something.

Look forward to your advice.

Because it might burn the cotton. Plus it'll taste burnt as your vaping. Just a little fyi you'll never get that "high" from vaping even with high nicotine. Vaping doesn't contain carbon monoxide, smoke does.

 

[djsvapour]

Please elaborate on why I won't use it at above 25 watts for long? I don't understand? You mean because of the heat? The heat doesn't bother me l... I feel I need it that high to feel like I'm smoking something.

Look forward to your advice.

The post above from @kbeam418 is spot on. You can easily burn the cotton taking atomizer heads to their maximum.

The manufacturers like to write 20w-40w or whatever on the atomizers. It's quite a good idea in a way, but a bit inaccurate.

20w probably means much lower and you might be flooded (although most don't flood these days) and 40w is with ideal combination of liquid thickness and wicking time between vapes.

I have vaped the OCC 0.5 as low as 8 watts... it worked fine. A bit 'spitty' on start up but soon gone. At the other end of the power, I haven't burnt my atomizer to a black, burny, unhealthy state at less than 20w.
Actually.... that was with 'Church' e-liquid from Cosmic Fog, as well.

You won't get a 'hit' like smoking, but if you want to attack those nasty cravings, just use some strong liquid... you should enjoy the throat hit and get a little 'swimmy' a few minutes later... but not head-rush-y, no.

 

[suprtrkr]

Hi and welcome

 

[JYB84]

Thanks for the warm welcome and advice!!

I will be buying a higher nicotine liquid to see if that helps. Otherwise it's going to cost me £7 a day which will cost me more than smoking my roll ups!! haha.

 

[djsvapour]

Thanks for the warm welcome and advice!!

I will be buying a higher nicotine liquid to see if that helps. Otherwise it's going to cost me £7 a day which will cost me more than smoking my roll ups!! haha.

Yes. 70p a day is more where I'm coming from. I don't do much DIY liquid but when you can buy decent liquids for £6 for 30ml it hardly seems worth getting the old mixing kit out of the box.
I may have to soon enough though. Depends on the new laws.

 

[JYB84]

Yes. 70p a day is more where I'm coming from. I don't do much DIY liquid but when you can buy decent liquids for £6 for 30ml it hardly seems worth getting the old mixing kit out of the box.
I may have to soon enough though. Depends on the new laws.

What Liquids would you consider decent? There is a shop near me that charged me £7 for a 15ml 3mg bottle Cosmic Fog - Kryiptonite. It was very nice tasting but I killed it in a day!! I know I need higher nicotine, however I got some £2 bottles of PG to try different flavours and mixed them myself with VG and they just rip my throat to bits.

I know I am probably answering my own question, but I guess it's just trial and error?

 

[HauntedMyst]

Welcome aboard!

 

[djsvapour]

I know I am probably answering my own question, but I guess it's just trial and error?

There is some trial and error, sure. £7 is about the price for a liquid imported from the US, actually that's a little cheaper than most.
You certainly need higher strength, unless you are going up in power.
Have you any idea how much PG you can manage? The thing is, many of us quit using 80/20 (or 70/30) PG. The notion of vaping higher VG so as not to rip your throat is not quite the same for us. I actually want to get a little scratchy throat hit from vaping.
Put it this way, I have vaped pure VG at 100w for an experiment. Not a problem.
Anything over 20 watts with PG - yes, problem.
A new vaper vaping at 20,30,40 watts has no chance of using high PG liquid (pretty much).
So - you could potentially vape higher PG liquid at half the power.
(sorry... I will get there with this).
The thing is, you have set off down one path and there's more than 1 way to crack the nut.
If you found some nice 50/50 liquid, you could vape that forever (at 15 watts or something)... but it might be an impossible 'backwards' move for you, I don't know.
It's a theory which I'm working on; that new vapers are going straight in at high power then saying it must be high VG. Shoot, nobody wants to vape PG at 50 watts. Kind of chicken and egg theory.

(I come back later)

 

[JYB84]

There is some trial and error, sure. £7 is about the price for a liquid imported from the US, actually that's a little cheaper than most.
You certainly need higher strength, unless you are going up in power.
Have you any idea how much PG you can manage? The thing is, many of us quit using 80/20 (or 70/30) PG. The notion of vaping higher VG so as not to rip your throat is not quite the same for us. I actually want to get a little scratchy throat hit from vaping.
Put it this way, I have vaped pure VG at 100w for an experiment. Not a problem.
Anything over 20 watts with PG - yes, problem.
A new vaper vaping at 20,30,40 watts has no chance of using high PG liquid (pretty much).
So - you could potentially vape higher PG liquid at half the power.
(sorry... I will get there with this).
The thing is, you have set off down one path and there's more than 1 way to crack the nut.
If you found some nice 50/50 liquid, you could vape that forever (at 15 watts or something)... but it might be an impossible 'backwards' move for you, I don't know.
It's a theory which I'm working on; that new vapers are going straight in at high power then saying it must be high VG. Shoot, nobody wants to vape PG at 50 watts. Kind of chicken and egg theory.

(I come back later)

I totally understand what your saying, I think..... it would be a backwards step, although I am willing to give it a go tonight, It might work with higher Nicotine.

The main thing that made me want to try vaping to quit was trying a friends sub-Ohm Vape. nice and warm, lots of smoke, awesome flavour. I didn't stop and think about how much liquid I would get through or what Nicotine I would need.....or if the high Nicotine would rip my throat to bits!! I am buying some 12mg 50/50 tonight from a local shop I will see how that goes.

2 quick questions....If this high Nicotine rips my throat, would it become easier to vape as I got used to it? Or is that something that Scratches your throat no matter how long you do it for?
Am I correct in thinking its only the power that burns the liquid? Or does greater airflow cause more liquid to be burnt too?

Thanks for your input, it has been a great help!

 

[djsvapour]

I totally understand what your saying, I think..... it would be a backwards step, although I am willing to give it a go tonight, It might work with higher Nicotine.

Yes, it's hard to say how you will feel. I'd rather vape higher nic' and some PG (up to anything, really) as both the nic and the PG add to the throat hit. I was given some 100% PG liquids to try (Vapefest) and they were nice enough to vape, but you couldn't really see you were vaping... it was like using a blood- Nicolites.

I guess you need (we need) to find stuff that works for us. No wrongs or rights.

The main thing that made me want to try vaping to quit was trying a friends sub-Ohm Vape. nice and warm, lots of smoke, awesome flavour. I didn't stop and think about how much liquid I would get through or what Nicotine I would need.....or if the high Nicotine would rip my throat to bits!! I am buying some 12mg 50/50 tonight from a local shop I will see how that goes.

I do think new vapers are attracted to the clouds and all the flavor. Getting more 'smoke' than a cigarette seems kind of attractive. Heat is an issue, I use temp control for anything much over 20w and that works for me.

2 quick questions....If this high Nicotine rips my throat, would it become easier to vape as I got used to it? Or is that something that Scratches your throat no matter how long you do it for?

Vaping (the vapour) is something that most people get used to. I couldn't even vape 9 watts until the end of year one. Part of the reason for the power race is that some vapers are looking for more all the time. I certainly became accustomed to PG. First few months, I was drinking massive iced drinks. Now, 20w and I don't even feel thirsty. (I was a thirsty smoker, mind you).

Thanks for your input, it has been a great help!

No problem. I'm interested. The hardware now is so good and this is great, but a lot of people have trouble (in one way or another) because of the power. That's why I am often negative about eGo ONE and iJust2 - if you find it too harsh, you are stuck really. With a VV/VW mod you can go up and down, try different ratios and Nic' strength.

 

[JYB84]

No problem. I'm interested. The hardware now is so good and this is great, but a lot of people have trouble (in one way or another) because of the power. That's why I am often negative about eGo ONE and iJust2 - if you find it too harsh, you are stuck really. With a VV/VW mod you can go up and down, try different ratios and Nic' strength.

Thanks again mate,

I seem to get on with the 50/50 12mg a bit better, I filled my Kanger nano (3ml) up after work yesterday with it and still not quite finished, I smoke most when I'm at home. So looking a lot better than 3mg.

This morning I have also changed to mouth-lung vaping with low air flow @11Watts. Seems to do the trick, I can always whack it up if I'm having a bad day

So Still not settled on my style and liquid yet but I don't feel as worried that it's not going to work or even cost me more money.

 

[Heavy Smoker]

This is all a bit confusing for me as I keep it simple with basic battery, coils and 18 mg. nicotine, so I will simply congratulate you on switching to vaping and wish you the best as I listen in on the continuation of this discussion!