New study: vaping does not leave any nicotine residue on indoor surfaces
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So Mr. Antz's guests are exposed to the same levels of nicotine as my guests? Who would have thought?
They better hurry up and tax the crap out of our nicotine before their whole house of cards fall completely apart.
Wait! Only 1/2 ecig homes had nicotine residue. The other half had none......whereas the NON nicotine users had nicotine residue? 
Wait! Only 1/2 ecig homes had nicotine residue. The other half had none......whereas the NON nicotine users had nicotine residue?
This is a positive study - they're saying non-nicotine users and ecigs had the same result so there was no measurable third hand effect.
another positive for vaping. third hand is still a ridiculous concept but it's nice to see it's totally N/A for ecig.
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The article is not saying that there is no nicotine residue left from ecig use as the thread title suggests. Only that "Nicotine levels in e-cigarette users homes was significantly lower than that found in cigarette smokers homes"
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But Stanton Glantz et al. will surely be able to find plenty of nicotine from e-cigs on indoor (and outdoor) surfaces, because he wants to eradicate them right along with smoking. And we know how much money Glantz and his friends get to crank out their garbage, plus the mass media are at their beck and call.
Update: Goniewicz has already worked with Glantz and other nazis
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Goniewicz+ML
Seems to be working both sides of the street:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25173774
Electronic cigarettes are a source of thirdhand exposure to nicotine.
His latest was funded by $448,657 from OD, which is the NIH Director's unaccountable slush fund, and administered by NIDA.
http://projectreporter.nih.gov/Reporter_Viewsh.cfm?sl=13EAC00C468DC4D77598B8961CAA4A01A2FFCEB861BF
Update: Goniewicz has already worked with Glantz and other nazis
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Goniewicz+ML
Seems to be working both sides of the street:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25173774
Electronic cigarettes are a source of thirdhand exposure to nicotine.
His latest was funded by $448,657 from OD, which is the NIH Director's unaccountable slush fund, and administered by NIDA.
http://projectreporter.nih.gov/Reporter_Viewsh.cfm?sl=13EAC00C468DC4D77598B8961CAA4A01A2FFCEB861BF
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Many, if not all, of 'our guys' have worked both sides of the street at some point in time. For some, Glantz was their mentor/tutor/colleague. But they've jaywalked to the harm reduction side of the street. (a better analogy is that there was a fork in the road - TC and THR) They all still walk on the anti-smoking boulevard - a street any self-respecting freedom lover should avoid.
Wait! Only 1/2 ecig homes had nicotine residue. The other half had none......whereas the NON nicotine users had nicotine residue?
My understanding was that in both non-smokers and vapers houses, the nicotine level was at the detection limit of the instruments, randomly showing either as a trace or just nothing.
I'll pass on Giving them $31.50. I don't like Papers/Studies that are Published to Pay-per-View sites.
Better spent on furniture/carpet clearer
http://www.walmart.com/ip/303-Produ...ic-Guard-with-Water-Repellent-32-Oz./39169923
Better spent on furniture/carpet clearer
http://www.walmart.com/ip/303-Produ...ic-Guard-with-Water-Repellent-32-Oz./39169923
Yeah... I think I saw that same link in this Thread for car seats.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-vaping-discussion/657953-vape-car-windows.html
A few things that was not in the clif notes of this...
The majority of e-cig users were previous smokers. The houses that were tested did not state the decay level of the nicotine levels. This means that the levels may have been leftover from the previous tenants or the homeowners previous habit.
The only way to have a completely unaffected study is to have e-cig users go into a completely new home (who the builders and painters did not smoke while building the home, this happens a lot btw) and have them reside in this new home for a period of time then test the surfaces.
Nicotine has been known to be small enough to penetrate the wood of a home through the paint and drywall, so even putting up a fresh coat of paint will not work.
Sorry but this study will not hold up in front of a panel of peers.
The majority of e-cig users were previous smokers. The houses that were tested did not state the decay level of the nicotine levels. This means that the levels may have been leftover from the previous tenants or the homeowners previous habit.
The only way to have a completely unaffected study is to have e-cig users go into a completely new home (who the builders and painters did not smoke while building the home, this happens a lot btw) and have them reside in this new home for a period of time then test the surfaces.
Nicotine has been known to be small enough to penetrate the wood of a home through the paint and drywall, so even putting up a fresh coat of paint will not work.
Sorry but this study will not hold up in front of a panel of peers.
Yeah...
I would have liked to have read How Many ml of what mg/ml e-Liquid the Vapers were using? And How Long they had being Vaping before the Samples were collected?
As well as the Overall Sampling Process.
How do you explain the results where they found nothing in vapers homes?
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