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New Super Concentrated Flavors - Part 2

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I may take you up on this! I don't have Black and Mild by Vz but I have the co op version and do have the others and never had some of the ones your trading for so why not! :)
I have the following VZ concentrates I would like to trade for others. I do not know if this is allowed here but I know we are all trying these and some are for us and some are not. Not looking to sale them just trade for flavors that may not be your cup of tea. If this is in violation please just let me know and I will delete immemdiately.

I have:
4ml of blueberry
4ml bababa
4.5ml cherry
4ml peach
5ml cappuccino
4.5ml blended tobacco
4.5ml 555
9ml real cig

I would like:
the following I have tried and liked
Island tobacco
Black N mild - NOTE: I do have a co op version of this!
vanilla
caramel


I also like virgina cure and cream but have pleny of that.

I do not like french pipe or any minty flavors.

I want to try others and have not tried any of the Hangsen.
 
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Have been doing DIY a while using various vendors. Still will occasionaly try a vendor pre mix as a reference to try and make a clone
Right now I am waiting for nite lite vapor to go online again. Great prices for premix , seems like best bang for buck and favorable reviews unless you DIY

Question has anyone tried to figure their DIY cost per mil. If so what is it?
 

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Have been doing DIY a while using various vendors. Still will occasionaly try a vendor pre mix as a reference to try and make a clone
Right now I am waiting for nite lite vapor to go online again. Great prices for premix , seems like best bang for buck and favorable reviews unless you DIY

Question has anyone tried to figure their DIY cost per mil. If so what is it?

From what i've seen people are making 30mL bottles for anywhere from .85 up to 3 bucks.... still a fantastic deal!!
 

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Have been doing DIY a while using various vendors. Still will occasionaly try a vendor pre mix as a reference to try and make a clone
Right now I am waiting for nite lite vapor to go online again. Great prices for premix , seems like best bang for buck and favorable reviews unless you DIY

Question has anyone tried to figure their DIY cost per mil. If so what is it?

Around 2$ to make a 30 ml bottle at 8 mg/ml.
 

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There's a lot of variation gents and ladies, I haven't calculated DIY costs myself. I do tend to push percentages higher than most, but I'm in the minority and most people are getting by with 2-3% so I'm sure you could calculate things if you're so inclined :)

As far as mixing goes, all I can say is I like to spend a while with each flavor as a stand alone first to get a sense of it, and an educated guess as to how it will interact with other flavors. It is just a guess, as its sometimes really unpredictable and you get novel effects that make you go 'woah!'

My own experience is that the super concentrated flavors mix incredibly well with

1) Each other. tobaccos + tobaccos, tobaccos + menthols, and fruits + menthols (many people love fruits + tobaccos but I'm not so inclined...)

2) mix well with TPA

3) mix well with capellas

4) mix well with FA

If you want suggestions I can try my best to help. Generally I vape tobacco 80% of the time, menthol 10% of the time, and 'other' 10% of the time (other including sweet vapes that some people consider tobaccos, I don't, e.g. sweet RY4s)

Recently its been 80% unflavored, 10% unflavored with a dash of menthol, 10% everything else.

I only say this to give you a sense of my taste friends :)
 

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Anyone find a good chocolate and mandarin recipe? I ordered Chocolate, Mandarin, and 555(Im a huge lover of TWs PR state express) Have read a lot of good things about the VZ line of SC flavors and just had to give them a shot. Was thinking of doing 8 drops Mandarin and 4 drops Chocolate per 10ml ... sound about right?
 

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Anyone find a good chocolate and mandarin recipe? I ordered Chocolate, Mandarin, and 555(Im a huge lover of TWs PR state express) Have read a lot of good things about the VZ line of SC flavors and just had to give them a shot. Was thinking of doing 8 drops Mandarin and 4 drops Chocolate per 10ml ... sound about right?
That sounds pretty close to me. The Mandarin is a subtle flavor. You could always add 1 or 2 drops, if needs adjustments.
 

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I figured the Mandarin would probably be more subtle and I want to taste it with a touch of chocolate. I cant wait till they get here. Should be monday since no deliveries on sunday :(

Really impressed with VZs shipping time though ... Was picked up by USPS within 5 hours of placing my order
Ohh.. You would like a touch of chocolate. Start with 2 or 3 drops. The chocolates are very strong.

Yes they are very fast indeed.:)
 

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Ok thanks ... probably not the right place to ask this but Ill do it anyways and it can be deleted if needed.

I was thinking about mixing all my nic up with vg/pg and then when I want to make a batch of flavored juice just add the drops of flavoring. I vape at about 15-18mg. Per 10ml how far do you think the flavoring would drop the nic content? Im horrible with math or I would try to figure it out myself. Was thinking about doing 16mg and hoping it would drop to about 15
 

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Ok thanks ... probably not the right place to ask this but Ill do it anyways and it can be deleted if needed.

I was thinking about mixing all my nic up with vg/pg and then when I want to make a batch of flavored juice just add the drops of flavoring. I vape at about 15-18mg. Per 10ml how far do you think the flavoring would drop the nic content? Im horrible with math or I would try to figure it out myself. Was thinking about doing 16mg and hoping it would drop to about 15
Your'e welcome Clarkjs. eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator This is my favorite e juice calculator. Make sure that you change the number of drops per ml to 47.
 

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It's entirely OK to post that here that's what these threads are for :)

Mixing up your base first is a great idea, many people do things this way

Say you have a 16 mg base, and you create 10 mls total with 2.5% flavor (9.75 mls of base + 0.25 mls of flavor which is about 12-13 drops)

2.5% = .025, X 16 mg/ml = 0.4 mg/ml. This is how much you've decreased your nic.

16 -0.4 = 15.4 mg/ml, that's your final solution

Say you start with 10 mls of base, and then add the same amount as above (about 12 drops or .24 mls)

10/10.24 = 0.977, this is the strength of your new juice compared to the original 10 mls

0.977 X 16 mg = 15.6 mg/ml

either way its a small reduction
 
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Awesome guys! Thank you so much. This is my 3rd time starting up vaping. The first time I quit because all that was available at the time were carts with either fluval or blue foam and dripping and I just didnt get on well with either. Second time was because I was mixing 10ml at a time and vaping it within 2 days and for whatever reason didnt make larger batches. Working on getting some larger (50ml+) bottles so I can make large batches and be set for a while.

This time when I came back I thought out what caused me to give it up and have worked to change those things. This Vivi Nova doesnt leak (I have little kids) and vapes great so that solved issue number 1 and issue number 2 you guys just helped me solve. I can mix my nic up and then just add it to a 5 or 10ml bottle and add some flavor and be good. Once I find a good all day vape (which actually after a suggestion from Cyrus might be unflavored lol) I can just mix up a few 50ml bottles and let them steep.

Thank you so much once again ... means the world
 
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