New Super Concentrated Flavors
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here is what I am seeing.
base level 36mg
target level 9mg
amount to me made 5ml
water vodka etc 0
other (VG) 30
flavor 2.5%
here is what I get
base with nic 1.25
base with no nic 2.125
water 0
other (VG) 1.5
flavoring .125
this is with the drops set to 47. Yes all ML's
how does one deal with all the weird ML amounts like 2.125?
base level 36mg
target level 9mg
amount to me made 5ml
water vodka etc 0
other (VG) 30
flavor 2.5%
here is what I get
base with nic 1.25
base with no nic 2.125
water 0
other (VG) 1.5
flavoring .125
this is with the drops set to 47. Yes all ML's
how does one deal with all the weird ML amounts like 2.125?
Yes just add the drops after you have measured out the pg/vg/nic. keeps it simple that way and you are using such a small drop count that making a larger batch later is still doable.
So I should just set the calculator to make 5ML of 70/30 base with nic right?
then drop in 6 drops?
your syringes should have graduated marks between each ml, just estimate using these marks. It doesn't have to be too exact, as long as you end up with roughly 5ml.
for some reason I need things to be exact.
here is why I get confused.
some say 1 drop per ml
but for 5ml I need 6?
.25 per ml but then that would be one drop per 4ml right?
I know I sound like a idiot. This is why I cannot DIY.
with such a super concentrated flavor, I thought just being off a little would have a huge effect.
here is why I get confused.
some say 1 drop per ml
but for 5ml I need 6?
.25 per ml but then that would be one drop per 4ml right?
I know I sound like a idiot. This is why I cannot DIY.
with such a super concentrated flavor, I thought just being off a little would have a huge effect.
No - just stick to the rule of 1 Drop per ml and add 5 drops to 5ml of PG/VG...Don't over think it. Once you go higher to 10ml use 12 Drops right from the Vz bottle to get 2.5% and then 24 Drops for a 20ml size and then 36 Drops for a 30ml Bottle...
Always stick to this rule and you can then adjust for taste later.
ob, the good news is everyone's trying to help you out. The bad news is everyone's trying to help you out. LOL. But seriously, I hesitate to jump in, but I think what everyone is trying to say is not to be too .... about factoring the flavoring into your numbers. This flavoring is so concentrated that the amount you're going to use is small and won't distort things very much. Just make your base as though it would be unflavored, then add 1 drop for every ml of base, or 5 drops for 5ml(or 6 if you follow AZplumber's advise). One drop per ml has been measured by a couple folks to be somewhere between 2 and 2.5%.
just keep it simple and make your pg/vg/nic base up and use 5 or 6 drops per 5ml. from that you can adjust to suit you.
Do what that says and follow what I colored and highlighted above!!!
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OB, you're over-thinking it. Think about what Zen~ said: don't worry about ohms, just vape. Same thing here. You do not need to get down to 100's of a ml.
Make whatever combo of nic, pg, and vg you want to reach your 5ml batch size. Then add 6 drops of the flavor. Don't worry that you're a hair off: it's fine
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Ok did it again butterscotch is reg flavor, 5 - 20%. Ok I added more flavor to make it right 20%. Wow right off the bat it sucks. Hopefully steeping will make better. This one is right there with carmel made by someone who has never tasted either one.
Mr Beo, respectfully I will have to correct you so we don't confuse OB. The .125 is not 12.5 drops, that is a 5ml batch and we don't want someone using 12.5 drops for a 5ml batch on their first mix. That .125 is a fraction of a ml or 1/8 of a ml. or (47drops divided by 8 = 5.875 drops)
Az
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As louie from vapingzone stated on the vendors thread new prices are in effect on some of the super concentrated flavors. As new bottles come in they will be moved to the new prices too.
5ml....$4.99
10ml...$8.99
30ml...$21.99
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/272516-e-liquid-vz-usa-60.html
5ml....$4.99
10ml...$8.99
30ml...$21.99
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/272516-e-liquid-vz-usa-60.html
Should also be noted that vz has lowered shipping rates on smaller orders
NEW SHIPPING RATES FOR ORDERS UNDER 15 DOLLARS
New shipping rate for orders under 15 dollars is now $ 3.99
Info pulled from vz's vendor thread for those that may have missed it
NEW SHIPPING RATES FOR ORDERS UNDER 15 DOLLARS
New shipping rate for orders under 15 dollars is now $ 3.99
Info pulled from vz's vendor thread for those that may have missed it
Thanks for the help everyone.
To be honest, I might just give up.
The whole process perplexes me. Here are some examples of why I am so aggravated.
I have syringes and also graduated cylinders. When I try to get the liquids out of the bottles with the syringes there are air bubbles that I can't get out and the liquid drips everywhere. I can't see the lines properly with the stupid rubber stopper in there and then I always worry about how to properly clean the tools.
The beakers I thought would be easier. I would just use a dropper and put the liquid to the right place, but that does not seem to work properly either.
Oh yeah, I went to drop the drops into the bottle and even the first one hit the side and half went in and half did not
I cannot cook. The reason is that I need precise instructions or I get easily sidetracked. I cannot just do things by feel.
I think I might just be the One person who just cannot do this. Even with these easy percentages and flavors.
This is not a sob story. I just done think I can do it.
I do appreciate all the help. Thanks everyone.
To be honest, I might just give up.
The whole process perplexes me. Here are some examples of why I am so aggravated.
I have syringes and also graduated cylinders. When I try to get the liquids out of the bottles with the syringes there are air bubbles that I can't get out and the liquid drips everywhere. I can't see the lines properly with the stupid rubber stopper in there and then I always worry about how to properly clean the tools.
The beakers I thought would be easier. I would just use a dropper and put the liquid to the right place, but that does not seem to work properly either.
Oh yeah, I went to drop the drops into the bottle and even the first one hit the side and half went in and half did not
I cannot cook. The reason is that I need precise instructions or I get easily sidetracked. I cannot just do things by feel.
I think I might just be the One person who just cannot do this. Even with these easy percentages and flavors.
This is not a sob story. I just done think I can do it.
I do appreciate all the help. Thanks everyone.
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