New to Kanger subox mini

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BM3R

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I've being thinking about getting this for a while now and have done some research into as well as watched some videos.
A guy at work happen to have one today and he let me have a go on it and WOW!!!!! I could believe the flavor and cloud that came out when I took a hit.
I was instantly sold!!!!

Now the easy part is buying the starter kit but its the rba that's new to me.
The guy said its quite easy to do and they last about two weeks.

What I need to know is on top of the starter kit what else should I be ordering?

-18650 batteries QTY 2 (back-up on the charge is always good to have I hear)
-Battery charger
-Ohm Meter
-Kanthal wire (26, 28, 30 gauge?)
-Coil wrapping tool?
-Extra Cotton
-Extra 0.5 ohm coils

Is that it or am I missing something?
 

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Batteries
Charger
  • Get the best charger that you can reasonably afford. Statistically most battery incidents occur while charging. Pila, Xtar, and Nitecore Intellicharger are the most recommended brands. I have a Nitcore Intellicharger. Works well. Next time I'll be getting a Xtar VP4.
Wicking Material - Take your pick
  • Organic Cotton Balls
  • Rayon (Cellu-Cotton) - Sally's Beauty Supply
  • Japanese Cotton Pads (Koh Gen Do/Shiseido) - Sephora/Nordstroms - I use these.
Other Tools
  • Coiling Jig (not necessary BUT very handy)
  • Accessory Screwdriver Set (can be used to wind coils and tighten post screws.
  • Ceramic Tweezers (not needed but nice) or Tweezers
  • Needle Nose Pliers (to squeeze the coils together nice and tight)
  • Nail Clippers (to clip the ends of wires)
BATTERIES - WHERE TO BUY

Only buy batteries from a reputable supplier (not ebay or Amazon) as there are many counterfeit batteries being sold. Here are several reputable battery suppliers in the US.

* RTD Vapor
* Illumination Supply
* Lighthound
* Orbtronics
 
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wire gauge is a matter of personal preference. Check out Coil wrapping | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators
to see how it may affect your vaping experience. I like 28g over 26, and I find 30g gets too hot, but again that's personal.
I have never used pliers to build a coil, that seems kinda overkill imo. I would be afraid to deform the coil,I just use the tweezers to squeeze it tight while is hot
 

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wire gauge is a matter of personal preference. Check out Coil wrapping | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators
to see how it may affect your vaping experience. I like 28g over 26, and I find 30g gets too hot, but again that's personal.
I have never used pliers to build a coil, that seems kinda overkill imo. I would be afraid to deform the coil,I just use the tweezers to squeeze it tight while is hot

I tried the calculator, seems that 28ga with a target resistance of 0.5 ohm is 4 wraps.
 

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If I am rebuilding the OCC heads, I like to use 24 gauge. If I am building on the RBA deck, I like to use 26 or 28 gauge, depending on which juice I am going to be using. For my thin mints recipe, it seems like 28 gauge works best. For my cinnamon roll mix, it seems like 26 gauge works best. It all comes down to personal preference. As cheap as kanthal is, I would just get several different gauges and try them all out and see what you prefer. A 100 foot roll of kanthal can be had for about 6 or 7 bucks, so getting a few gauges shouldn't break the bank.

As for batteries, get yourself some batteries that are rated for at least a 20A CONTINUOUS discharge. Don't go based off of pulse discharge rates. Some good ones are the LG HE2, HE4, the Sony VTC4, VTC5, the Samsung 25r, and there are several others out there. Check out some of the tests @Mooch has posted. 2 batteries would be the minimum I think you should get, and you may even want to think about getting 4 batteries. If you chain vape all day, you will end up going through batteries fairly quick, and having a few extra spares never hurts. I always take my batteries out at about half a charge, and I go through at least 2 batteries in a night doing that(running a subtank mini at 30w). If I run all day, I can go and burn through 4 batteries draining them to half a charge in a day. Also, batteries aren't terribly expensive, so it doesn't really break the bank having a few spares.

For a charger, go for any of the ones mentioned by other posters. Personally, I use a Nitecore D2 and am happy with it. Part of me wishes I had gone with the D4 since I am using it to also charge my batteries I use in a telescope(and that can drain 8 AA batteries in a matter of 4 hours or so, and they take 4-5 hours per pair to charge, meaning it can take about 20 hours to charge what the telescope can use up in around 4 hours), but I have the D2 and make it work. If I were just using it for batteries for my mods, the D2 would have been sufficient the whole time.

For cotton, I bought a bag of Koh Gen Do pads. It came with 80 pads, and I peel those in half, making it like 160 squares. Out of those squares, rewicking pretty much anything takes less than 1/4 of the pad, so it basically means that 80 pack will last for about 600 wicks. Even if I rewick once a day, that is enough to last a year and a half. If you don't want to use that, you can use regular unbleached organic cotton balls.

Other tools that I recommend are at least a pair of tweezers(preferably with ceramic tips), a micro torch, and an ohm reader. After that, anything else is just sort of luxury stuff. Coil builders are probably nice, but I just use a drill bit when I make new coils. The micro torch is nice for being able to torch the coils and get them pre-formed before installing them.

If you aren't sure which coils you will prefer, you may want to hold off on getting more coils until you have given each a try and figured out which you prefer. Personally, I prefer the 0.5 ohm coils, and then I rebuild those with my own wire when they finally wear out. If you want, you can start doing that, too. I personally like the extra airflow the OCC heads let through compared to the RBA deck.
 
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