New to mixing, looking for ADV recipe

[Enso]

Hi,

After 15+ bottles of off the shelf, I haven't found a liquid that I REALLY like. I've mixed a few bottles of unflavored nic base, and I think I'm ready for a little flavor in my life, haha.

I would really like a liquid that falls on the cherry flavored spectrum... like a cherry tobacco, something cherry vanilla caramel, a Cherry Garcia juice would be fantastic. I've seen some recipes for cherry cheesecake, and that doesn't sound appealing. I've read repeatedly that cherry is a hard flavor to get right, but there must be folks around who have had success.

Any suggestions?

 

[man00ver]

I don't have any recipes for you yet, but from my single-flavor testing so far, the best dessert cherry flavors I've found are FlavourArt Black Cherry and Inawera Cherries. They're sweeter than most, and don't veer as sharply into cough syrup taste. FA and INW are known for strong flavorings (generally 1-3% recommended), and these are good in that range but seem able to go higher (say 5% or so) without getting out of hand.

If I wanted to make a cherry ice-cream, or sundae (and now I do, thanks for that), those are the ones I'd reach for. I'm pretty sure they'd do well in tobacco blends also.

 

[Enso]

Thanks for the lead. It seems that most people who have had issues with cherry flavors are using TFA.

 

[glasseye]

My favorite cherry is INW Wisnia cherry. 1% or less usually does the trick. They also have Black Cherry for Pipe and Cherry Cigar. (BCF has them) The cherry cigar is nice, one time I put a bit of chocolate in it. Kinda tasted like the inside of a cherry tootsie pop.

 

[Enso]

I don't have any recipes for you yet, but from my single-flavor testing so far, the best dessert cherry flavors I've found are FlavourArt Black Cherry and Inawera Cherries. They're sweeter than most, and don't veer as sharply into cough syrup taste. FA and INW are known for strong flavorings (generally 1-3% recommended), and these are good in that range but seem able to go higher (say 5% or so) without getting out of hand.

If I wanted to make a cherry ice-cream, or sundae (and now I do, thanks for that), those are the ones I'd reach for. I'm pretty sure they'd do well in tobacco blends also.

I'm looking at those flavors and a couple others on Bull City Flavors... do you have any experience with them, or have a supplier that you are happy with?

 

[man00ver]

I'm looking at those flavors and a couple others on Bull City Flavors... do you have any experience with them, or have a supplier that you are happy with?

I mainly use BCF also, unless they're not stocking a specific flavoring I want. FYI, Bull City has a standing 6% discount code: VU6.

I've also bought some flavors from ECX:
DIY E-Liquid, Electronic Cigarettes and Wholesale Nicotine & E-Cig Juice | EcigExpress

Lots of people have good things to say about Wizard Labs, too:
http://wizardlabs.us/

 

[zoiDman]

.. I've read repeatedly that cherry is a hard flavor to get right, but there must be folks around who have had success.

Any suggestions?

To Me, pure Cherry is a Very Hard e-liquid to make. At least with the Cherry Flavorings I have tried. And I have Tried a Lot of them.

Something you might try is to make a Cherry/Strawberry blend. Maybe 2/3 Cherry and 1/3 Strawberry. It Isn't a Pure Cherry Taste. But Very Vapable. And adding Strawberry doesn't seem to make that Cough Syrup taste that you can/will get at Higher Flavoring Percentages.

And I think all/most Fruit Flavors need a Added Sweetener.

 

[Enso]

I mainly use BCF also, unless they're not stocking a specific flavoring I want. FYI, Bull City has a standing 6% discount code: VU6.

I've also bought some flavors from ECX:
DIY E-Liquid, Electronic Cigarettes and Wholesale Nicotine & E-Cig Juice | EcigExpress

Lots of people have good things to say about Wizard Labs, too:
http://wizardlabs.us/

Ooooohhh, I love discount codes, how did you know? Thanks!!

 

[Enso]

To Me, pure Cherry is a Very Hard e-liquid to make. At least with the Cherry Flavorings I have tried. And I have Tried a Lot of them.

Something you might try is to make a Cherry/Strawberry blend. Maybe 2/3 Cherry and 1/3 Strawberry. It Isn't a Pure Cherry Taste. But Very Vapable. And adding Strawberry doesn't seem to make that Cough Syrup taste that you can/will get at Higher Flavoring Percentages.

And I think all/most Fruit Flavors need a Added Sweetener.

Do you think strawberry ripe might be a acceptable substitute for sweetener?

 

[zoiDman]

Do you think strawberry ripe might be a acceptable substitute for sweetener?

Taste is Very Subjective. And, of course, it depends on what you are looking for.

I wouldn't consider Strawberry Ripe a substitute for a Sweetener. But I'm looking for Sweet Fruit Flavors.

Sometimes it is good to Remember where these Flavorings came from. And that is Food Flavorings. And when you Cook, many times the Recipe calls for Sugar.

If I made a Cheery Cake, or Cheery Candy, or Cherry Ice Crème, it just wouldn't taste very good if I Didn't add some Sugar.

But like I said, Taste is Very Subjective. So the Only way to Know when doing DIY is to Try it.

 

[Enso]

Taste is Very Subjective. And, of course, it depends on what you are looking for.

I wouldn't consider Strawberry Ripe a substitute for a Sweetener. But I'm looking for Sweet Fruit Flavors.

Sometimes it is good to Remember where these Flavorings came from. And that is Food Flavorings. And when you Cook, many times the Recipe calls for Sugar.

If I made a Cheery Cake, or Cheery Candy, or Cherry Ice Crème, it just wouldn't taste very good if I Didn't add some Sugar.

But like I said, Taste is Very Subjective. So the Only way to Know when doing DIY is to Try it.

Very true. I'm looking to keep sweetness and flavorings to a bare minimum (for now). I just need a little flavor, unflavored base is really quite decent, but it's not particularly exciting. Thanks for the advice!