New to RBA first coil is okay but somethings off....

[Craigo121]

I just got into RBA/rda's I bought an Igo-L great little dripper my first couple attempts at coiling was abit difficult due to hotspots and it was late so gave up until the next day, then I built what seemed to be a good coil using 32g kanthal a-1 4/3 wraps measured 2.1 ohms using 3mm silica wick doubled up, seems to be a lot of black parts on the wick now but no burnt taste. Now at first when I put some juice on it and vaped the throat hit was somewhat harsh (yes the airhole was lined up fine) then it smoothed out a little bit more and had a nice throat hit excellent flavour and nice vapour, now it has nice vapour and flavour but little to nothing throat hit :S

Any idea's on what to do? I'm gonna try recoil with 30g kanthal and try get 1.5-1.7 ohm to see if that will help with the TH. I came from cartomizers which gave great flavour, vapour and TH I was happy with them but was looking to find the legendary best vape and heard so many good things about rebuildable that I thought I would tinker with it I just want great vapour great flavour and great throat hit with mouth inhaling. I don't like direct lung inhales so much as I like to draw in mouth first and then inhale gives me the feel of a cig and it is satisfying having a throat hit I just dont want it too sharp or too harsh that it makes my throat tickle which will make me cough if that makes sense? Oh and im using a vamo so cant do sub ohm yet

Any advice would be great thanks

 

[Cuando]

Throat hit, from my understanding, has a lot to do with the juice you use. Perhaps try some higher PG or nicotine juice. You might also toy with vaping at different wattages, see if you can't dial it up for a bit more oomph.

My advice on coil making is to start simple and get the hang of it. I've tried a number of different coils, and a single strand of ekowool is what I've stuck with, it just works and I get plumes and clouds. I've found the most important thing when building a coil is the tension. That is, you want you coil touching the wick, but not squeezing it. When I wrap my coils, I'll slide the wick back and forth to check the tension. It should slide easily enough, but you should feel a bit of resistance. Make sure the coil is touching the along it's entirety. One loop off the wick can cause harsh, dry hits.

Anyway, stick with it and do not be afraid to pull a coil and rewrap it. I tend to reuse my kanthal, and simply replace the silica/ekowool when it starts performing poorly. Good luck with the Igo-L, it's a heck of a piece of gear. I own two and love them to bits.

 

[Craigo121]

well I just decreased my nic from 18mg to 12mg couple weeks ago I vape a 50/50 blend its perfect lots of vapour and perfect TH on carto's anyway, too high PG and it makes me thirsty more frequently which I don't like so dont really want to increase the PG. I tried it on 6 volts which is like 18 W and it still hasen't improved I dont want to move the airhole as I like big clouds of vapour but want the decent throat hit I had before :/ maybe i'll try rebuild today to tinker with it but when I wrap I felt like when I adjusted it, it may have got too tight as I cant slide the wick out but then any loose I make it wont be all touching and ill get hot spots but maybe I just need to get more experienced? When you drip with a RDA do you get lots of vapour and lots of throat hit? It feels like with RDA's I cant have the best of the both worlds which is what I want lol tempted to try micro-coil and go buy some cotton wool from the shop and boil it and give that a shot wrap on a drill bit and then feed the cotton through

 

[super_X_drifter]

Try this bro. Should put you where you need to be. Same principals for your RDA
http://youtu.be/TdU74mrLXVA

You don't boil this cotton either. It's straight out of the box. Game on.


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[Craigo121]

cheers for the video drifter! I think I am gonna go to the shops in a minute to get some cotton so as long as I can get some 100% sterile cotton I don't need to boil? I'm from UK so our main store Tesco's its like the equilvilant of your walmart lol so doing it this way will give me massive vapour flavour and will give me the throat hit I want without it being scratchy?

 

[super_X_drifter]

cheers for the video drifter! I think I am gonna go to the shops in a minute to get some cotton so as long as I can get some 100% sterile cotton I don't need to boil? I'm from UK so our main store Tesco's its like the equilvilant of your walmart lol so doing it this way will give me massive vapour flavour and will give me the throat hit I want without it being scratchy?

Yep. Sterile rolled (I think y'all have it as "baton or batts"). It's usually in the first aid section, not the makeup section. No boiling required. Just awesomeness after the first 5 or 6 hits. Don't use allot of it. You want a dense wick but not a thick wick. You want to be able to pull it thru the coil easy and trim it so there are no billows I the ends. . Good luck bro. No F1 for you this weeKEND bro? SPA


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[super_X_drifter]

Here's the money shot on that build too
http://youtu.be/N_TBtnLGlJQ


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[Craigo121]

I bought 100% cotton balls from the baby section thats all I could find :/ good enough to do without boiling? Also with the microcoil do you put it further away from the posts? I thought it needed to be right next to the posts as close as possible without touching? Also trying to find something to wrap my coil around for the microcoil any suggestions? Size etc? Possible something that should just be laying around the house?

 

[Craigo121]

And I'll be watching the F1 on tv this weekend it seems

 

[Thrasher]

TH in a dripper is directly related to the airhole placement if you want more turn the hole slightly off the coil (and i mean just a tiny bit) if you want less try to get it in the center of coil. with the igo airholes being so low getting the coil in the exact position can be tricky sometimes.

 

[terry w]

hey craigo,

Have you not considered using ribbon wire ? believe me it is fantastic stuff. I got my last lot from here.

http://www.vape-atomizer-mesh.com/products/Ribbon-Wire.html Go for the .5 if you wanna try it.

 

[Craigo121]

whats benefits of ribbon wire? I've seen it about just dont know the benefits Also regarding the TH would this be the same in RBA tanks? I want to get into this but I like a decent TH aswell but dont want to loose any vapour production :/

 

[terry w]

whats benefits of ribbon wire? I've seen it about just dont know the benefits Also regarding the TH would this be the same in RBA tanks? I want to get into this but I like a decent TH aswell but dont want to loose any vapour production :/

The benefits of ribbon are,

Cos the wire is wider, you create a nice mass (as in the pic). I get great th flavour and vapour by using it. Its the easiest way to create a perfect coil every time IMO

EDIT: i just noticed you are using the vamo, That being the case if you do get some; Go for the 0.8 mm as that will give you higher resistance. 6 wraps around a 3 mm loop will give you around 2 ohms.

 

[Craigo121]

I may give the ribbon wire a try then sounds good I just made my first microcoil which was a success!! I used 30 gauge wire and did I think 10 wraps but it ended up being like 3.6 ohms so I took one wrap off gave me 3.4 ohms cranked it up to 6 volts and it vapes really good! Perfect throat hit, nice amount of vapour but have to be honest was expecting more lol great flavour but what I had noticed with RBA's when I built my first one free hand I used strawberry and cream was fine, then used pineapple and when I dripped more drops into it, it had a minty taste sort of to it but then just now with this microcoil I tried banana (and banana is one of my main vapes so I know the taste) but again it was nice but had a slight minty sort of fresh taste to it, anyone experienced this?

 

[Rodeorat]

I just got into RBA/RDA's I bought an Igo-L great little dripper my first couple attempts at coiling was abit difficult due to hotspots and it was late so gave up until the next day, then I built what seemed to be a good coil using 32g kanthal a-1 4/3 wraps measured 2.1 ohms using 3mm silica wick doubled up, seems to be a lot of black parts on the wick now but no burnt taste. Now at first when I put some juice on it and vaped the throat hit was somewhat harsh (yes the airhole was lined up fine) then it smoothed out a little bit more and had a nice throat hit excellent flavour and nice vapour, now it has nice vapour and flavour but little to nothing throat hit :S

Any idea's on what to do? I'm gonna try recoil with 30g kanthal and try get 1.5-1.7 ohm to see if that will help with the TH. I came from cartomizers which gave great flavour, vapour and TH I was happy with them but was looking to find the legendary best vape and heard so many good things about rebuildable that I thought I would tinker with it I just want great vapour great flavour and great throat hit with mouth inhaling. I don't like direct lung inhales so much as I like to draw in mouth first and then inhale gives me the feel of a cig and it is satisfying having a throat hit I just dont want it too sharp or too harsh that it makes my throat tickle which will make me cough if that makes sense? Oh and im using a vamo so cant do sub ohm yet

Any advice would be great thanks

Just recently tricked out my IGO-L with dual coils, 30awg, 1.1ohms, drilled out the stock air hole to 1/16 and added a 2nd 1/16th hole for the other coil.
This hits like a steam engine. The draw IS airy but its full of vapor, TH, and flavor, even with a silica wick.
The TH is big but not harsh or scratchy.
My IGO made me cough until I gave it more air. Since you're on a vamo, use 32awg and 4 wraps, dual coil should work.

 

[Thrasher]

i like the ribbon in drippers. nice smooth plumes of vaor. it seems to take a little longer to cake up and dryburns quicker also/
i get mine here
Flat Ribbon Kanthal

 

[super_X_drifter]

I may give the ribbon wire a try then sounds good I just made my first microcoil which was a success!! I used 30 gauge wire and did I think 10 wraps but it ended up being like 3.6 ohms so I took one wrap off gave me 3.4 ohms cranked it up to 6 volts and it vapes really good! Perfect throat hit, nice amount of vapour but have to be honest was expecting more lol great flavour but what I had noticed with RBA's when I built my first one free hand I used strawberry and cream was fine, then used pineapple and when I dripped more drops into it, it had a minty taste sort of to it but then just now with this microcoil I tried banana (and banana is one of my main vapes so I know the taste) but again it was nice but had a slight minty sort of fresh taste to it, anyone experienced this?

Hey bro, if you got 3.6 with 10 wraps, the diameter of your coil is too large - not micro. If you can find a 1.6 mm drill bit it will be perfect. Wrap on the smooth part. Shoot for about 12 wraps to get ya about a 2 ohm micro. Try to get the wraps touching each other or as close as possible. This will kick the flavor up several notches. Yep, you wanna get the coil out by the airhole. Raising it in elevation in relation to tbe airhole will increase TH and lowering it will lower TH.


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[Craigo121]

Rodeorat you say more air would mean more TH but wouldnt it be more air is less TH ? When you have the airhole in front of the coil it reduces the TH so having it bigger would mean less TH? I may try dual coil though, just it would rinse through juice right? haha yeah im interested in trying out the ribbon wire may have to order some

Drifter I did try looking for 1/16th drill bit but could not find it the closest I could get was a phillips screwdriver I think roughly 2mm, will have to do until pay day when I could get a 1/16th drill bit lol Should I wrap like 6 times then with them all touching to get this? or is this basically just normal coil set up but I just did it with a drill set up lol so I have not yet witnessed the awesomeness of microcoil yet? wow its gonna be good when I get there then lol The coils are pretty much touching though

 

[super_X_drifter]

Rodeorat you say more air would mean more TH but wouldnt it be more air is less TH ? When you have the airhole in front of the coil it reduces the TH so having it bigger would mean less TH? I may try dual coil though, just it would rinse through juice right? haha yeah im interested in trying out the ribbon wire may have to order some

Drifter I did try looking for 1/16th drill bit but could not find it the closest I could get was a phillips screwdriver I think roughly 2mm, will have to do until pay day when I could get a 1/16th drill bit lol Should I wrap like 6 times then with them all touching to get this? or is this basically just normal coil set up but I just did it with a drill set up lol so I have not yet witnessed the awesomeness of microcoil yet? wow its gonna be good when I get there then lol The coils are pretty much touching though

Nope until you get to 1/16" diameter of slightly less you haven't experienced a micro yet


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[Craigo121]

Right so I found a nail which was abit smaller not sure if its 1/16 but it certainly is close I wrapped like 11 wraps with 30 g works out to be 2.8 ohms though but put apple on it and it vapes beautifully! Starting to understand the awesomeness of RBA's now but I want the perfect 1/16th so I can get proper microcoils!