New to the forum and have a few questions :)

[bidget]

Hey everyone! Glad to have found this forum, there's a lot of good stuff here

I got my first e-cig yesterday and am having a few mixed feelings about it. I am hoping that my problems are related to a defective clearomizer, but what do I know right?

I got an itaste vv/vw v3 in the mail yesterday and put about 1-1.5ml through it. For the first few hours everything was fine, but my flavor slowly but surely went from grape to burnt grape to just plain burnt.

I have my itaste set to 8w, and it's also telling me that the clearomizer is 1.9 ohms and it's using 3.8v. I'm using an e-smart clearomizer that I ordered online, but as we are apparently not allowed to post links, who knows if it's any good haha.

I read through an inhalation technique thread posted elsehwhere in these forums and followed those instructions. I also did a little research on the subject from various websites and forums through google and basically what I understand is that at this point, the clearomizer has reached the end of its lifespan (they should last about a week though?) or the voltage is too high and I killed it. I'm hoping it's a simple solution and that I can fix it, because (like a complete newbie) I only ordered one clearomizer (yeah yeah I know haha) with my itaste. I've since ordered a few iclear 16s (although the single coil ones by mistake, doh) and they should be here in a couple days though.

Is there anything I can do to fix it? Clean it out and put some different juice in maybe? Hit it with a hammer?

Also if anyone has any input on good (canadian) websites to order from please let me know! There's nowhere around here that actually sells this stuff in a store so I am restricted to online shopping.



Anyway! Thanks for reading my wall of text And thanks in advance for any input as well!

 

[440BB]

Sweet liquids tend to burn more easily, so I would start by lowering the power down to 3.3 volts and only move up if the flavor stays good. You may be able to get more use out of that clearo if you give it a good wash using hot tap water, then shake it out. As it's your only clearo at the moment, you can gently pulse it a few times, about 3-5 seconds each time, to remove most of the water after cleaning. Stop pulsing when it stops sizzling, as it's almost dry. If you refill at that point, you'll get about 5 - 10 weak puffs as the remaining water vaporizes, then you should have a normal vape again. If too much liquid has caramelized on the coil in the clearo, you may not avoid the burning taste, but it's your best shot until the new ones come in. There is a more involved technique to revive coils called dry burning, but that's a step most people don't do when they're starting out.

Darker and sweeter liquids tend to be quicker to caramelize on the coil and make the vape unpleasant. If you have any that are pale and clear, they might work better, but I'd still start at lower power too. Good luck!

 

[bidget]

Awesome! Thanks

*edit*
Ehhh quick question though, do I just unscrew the cap and pour the water in? Do I have to take it apart any further than that?

 

[Geoffrey White]

bidget, what part of Canada are you in?

Also, I'd recommend using your iTaste at 6w and 3.3v (I actually own 2 iTastes, and that's the only setting I ever vape on now, for the most part.

Since you've had the burnt taste for a bit, I agree you should probably dump what's left in your clearomizer, and clean it before refilling it.

Ehhh quick question though, do I just unscrew the cap and pour the water in? Do I have to take it apart any further than that?

WARNING! Remove your clearomizer from your battery (the iTaste) before cleaning it!

In fact, never have your battery near water/liquids if you can help it.

You should take the entire clearomizer apart, if you can, and rinse all of the parts in hot water.

You might want to look up some how-to videos if you feel unsure of how to take your clearomizer apart.

 

[Lori2014]

Hi, bidget

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Clearomizers can be a pain .... the coils can either last a good length of time ... or not. There are dozens of posts on this. As a newbie also, I have switched to cartomizers as being way simpler. And, you know up front that they are disposable, although you can use them for quite a while, and clean them. Coils / wicks ... seems one has to learn the hard way they they are meant to be replaced often. Ask the vendor about some cartomizers when you order, being sure to mention what kind of kit you have, because the threading between the battery and whatever you put on top of it matters. 510 threading is what mine are, and seems to be common.

 

[Auxx]

Just buy Aspire Nautilus Mini, all problems solved!

 

[Susan~S]

Here are a couple of videos that may help you.

Your E-Smart looks to be a disposable type of clearomizer. If this is so, you will only be able to remove the mouthpiece and rinse the tank (with the coils inside) under water. If it is not considered disposable, you should be able to take it all apart like the iClear 16 to clean and dry burn the coils (the second video).

1. E-Smart Clearomizer Review | KR808D-1 Compatible
2. Cleaning / Dry Burning iClear 16 Clearomizer / Tank

 

[jimbodaddy74]

Just a point of clarification. With a VV/VW device, you can only change voltage OR wattage.

Meaning, if you set your device at 3.4 volts, then switch to wattage and set it to 6 watts, your device disregards the voltage setting and self adjusts the voltage to get the desired wattage based on the resistance of your coil. Switch back to voltage, and the device will put out the specified voltage only.

 

[Geoffrey White]

Just a point of clarification. With a VV/VW device, you can only change voltage OR wattage.

Meaning, if you set your device at 3.4 volts, then switch to wattage and set it to 6 watts, your device disregards the voltage setting and self adjusts the voltage to get the desired wattage based on the resistance of your coil. Switch back to voltage, and the device will put out the specified voltage only.

Are you sure about that? I've actually had a few back-and-forth emails with Innokin directly, and they seem to think otherwise.

They even told me the best choices based my particular atomizers' ohms.

 

[tayone415]

Are you sure about that? I've actually had a few back-and-forth emails with Innokin directly, and they seem to think otherwise.


They even told me the best choices based my particular atomizers' ohms.

Variable Voltage is manual mode where as variable wattage is supposed to be automatic.

Example of Variable Voltage:

1.8 ohm coil set at 4.0 Volts is 8.888888888 Watts if the ohms of the coil jumps to 2.0 ohms and it's still set to 4.0 volts then the watts will be 8 watts.

Variable Watts: With the same 1.8 ohm coil set for let's say 8 watts would use 3.79473319 volts but if the coil increases to 2.0 ohms as well, the device is set to keep a consistent output of 8 watts so it would need to adjust the voltage up to 4.0 volts to maintain 8 watts.

Unless Innokin has a different setup with their products that's the way it is supposed to work. One thing is a possibility that just because someone works for a certain company doesn't mean they know what they're talking about. I've called for support before for unrelated vape products and 2 of the 3 people I talked to knew less about the product then I did.

 

[jimbodaddy74]

Are you sure about that? I've actually had a few back-and-forth emails with Innokin directly, and they seem to think otherwise.

They even told me the best choices based my particular atomizers' ohms.

Yes. I am absolutely sure. When you have a fixed resistance value, you change wattage, voltage WILL change. Change voltage, wattage WILL change. Google Ohm's law calculator and see.

 

[bidget]

Cleaned it out and it worked like a charm! It's still working just fine even today, although my iclears showed up in the mail anyway. They are much nicer! They even have 2 sets of threads so they fit right flush with the battery which makes it look a lot better.

Thanks for the video posts and the input you guys are great!

But, now for my next question! Top coil or bottom coil!? From what I've read the main difference is the way they are filled, and also with bottom coils being on the bottom (duh) you don't have to worry as much about the wicks drying out. Opinions?


Also just to clarify, in my original post I had been using it on wattage mode, but when I checked it gave a voltage. That wasn't actually the voltage being used! The itaste gives a 'recommended voltage' based on the resistance of whatever you have attached. I used an ohm/amperage/power calculator and with 8w set it looks like it was using about 3.9v. Must have been just a tad high, but oh well doesn't really matter now.



*edit*
Now that I think about it, with the 2 sets of threading on the itaste, which one is the '510' thread? The smaller ones in the middle? What size is the larger threading on the bottom?

 

[jimbodaddy74]

I prefer bottom coils. They do help prevent the wicks from drying out as they are almost always submerged in liquid. The only downside is that they CAN be susceptible to flooding and gurgling/leaking. My personal experience says to open up the airflow holes on the side and it helps quite a bit.

As to what voltage/wattage to use, the answer is simple. Use the setting that gives you the desired flavor/vapor without burning. The charts that you see are typically just rough guidelines to start. There are some on the forum that when you see their setups are vaping at 50 watts and higher, so just use your taste buds as your own guide.

 

[tayone415]

Cleaned it out and it worked like a charm! It's still working just fine even today, although my iclears showed up in the mail anyway. They are much nicer! They even have 2 sets of threads so they fit right flush with the battery which makes it look a lot better.

Thanks for the video posts and the input you guys are great!

But, now for my next question! Top coil or bottom coil!? From what I've read the main difference is the way they are filled, and also with bottom coils being on the bottom (duh) you don't have to worry as much about the wicks drying out. Opinions?


Also just to clarify, in my original post I had been using it on wattage mode, but when I checked it gave a voltage. That wasn't actually the voltage being used! The itaste gives a 'recommended voltage' based on the resistance of whatever you have attached. I used an ohm/amperage/power calculator and with 8w set it looks like it was using about 3.9v. Must have been just a tad high, but oh well doesn't really matter now.



*edit*
Now that I think about it, with the 2 sets of threading on the itaste, which one is the '510' thread? The smaller ones in the middle? What size is the larger threading on the bottom?

Top coil will give you a warmer-hotter vape, a bottom coil will be a cooler vape, when using a bottom coil feeder tank you need to make sure that you always have at least 1/3-1/4 full of juice or it will flood and not produce much of it hit if any at all.

 

[bidget]

There are some on the forum that when you see their setups are vaping at 50 watts and higher, so just use your taste buds as your own guide.

50W ... hahahahaha.

As for flooding, what exactly is that? I tried googling it but all the info I found was on gurgling or leaking, which is pretty self explanatory.

 

[r77r7r]

510 is the one you thought it was, in the center. The outer one is called an ego thread. ( even when it's not on an actual ego)

Some toppers use both. the ego threads originally held a beauty covering. a cone for over an atty/carto.

Gurgling is usually when you get eliquid in the air passages. Flooding is when you get even more, and leaking is the end result.