New to vape and smoke in general!

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Villagernum1

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You might do well to heed what you just said. Unless you have $300 to throw away.... Oh, I give up. :(

Anna
Thing is, i'm not like my brother. I have an interest in something, I stick with it. Gym, badminton, gaming. I've never dropped something that I've spent money on. I keep on keeping on. Same with vaping. I have watched videos and talked to friends. I'm really deeply am interested. I would research parts and builds myself but it seems to be a lot of ohm's law, resistances, batteries and such which I'm no good at. I'm not a bright person. i'm a physically inclined person so when I tried reading up on this stuff, I just got confused.... which is why I'm asking here.

I would like to vape a certain way and do it in a safe manner. Which is why I'm not looking for rebuildables but rather, a unit which allows me to change the wattage and plugging and playing.
 

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Anything corresponding to what you're saying is gonna be expensive you're looking at mech mods and rdas
Flavorless juice i don't even think it exists (that's equivalent to vaping pure vg which aint very good at all) your best bet for that would be what's called max vg (anything from 75 to like 90-97% vg).

I'll say it again starting to vape for frustration in gaming is not reason enough for anyone there's 1000 other things you could do or simply play something else instead i game too but i've never said vaping was my stress reliever because it's not and like i said if clouds are all you're interested in mech mods and rdas which means lots of safety precautions and building and diy ing. building is less expensive and most cloud chasers opt for rdas and that type of stuff. I'll put this one suggestion here for clouds (any smok mod with tfv12 cloud beast king) i don't really like smok but then again i'm more of a flavor guy myself, it just so happens i do sub 0hm and blow bigger clouds than someone like Anna who does mtl inhales. Though i'll warn you before you order online the site has to be canadian DO NOT order from u.s stores you might have a surprise from the border customs if you do. I won't comment further on this issue but i wish you the best of luck.

Preference for manufacturer = Aspire, their speeder kit is 200 watts and comes with a sub 0hm tank called the athos i think? Never tried it but probably gonna get the mod eventually.
 

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Well, at least a few things are clear. :)

To be honest, you sound like someone who needs a decent, easygoing subohm device to start your process. I'm still going to recommend the aspire speeder because of smok product lack of reliability. Aspire products tend to be high quality, and easygoing to use. It won't necessarily be a trick mod, but you'd save some of your money and if you really want to get into tricking, you're going to have to get into some of those ohm's law and other stuff.... eventually. It *is* complicated so I'd approach it as a two stage process. Pick a vape kit that is subohm, easygoing (I'm not going to recommend smok products for that). Decide if you like it for flavoring and frustration. Do that for a while. You'll probably be able to figure out how to blow a smoke ring or two if you so desire along the way while you're waiting to come back to life in the videogame world, k?

If you are really into it, save the tricking for a few months down the line.

That is the absolute BEST and only advice I can give you. If you stick with things, I imagine your interest in vaping will grow, and you'll do fine and even take part in competitions at some point if you so desire, maybe further down the line....

Also, please don't say you aren't the brightest person. I'm sure it's not true, and when you put all your vaping desires in line in such a manner, you are going to get more helpful responses. You may well wind up getting into mech mods and drippers, down the line, and that's totally FINE.

Best of luck,

Anna
 
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Might be good to find a local B&M to get started with, they can be pretty helpful for new vapers.

As long as they don't see dollar signs walking in the door. Here recently, we've seen quite a few brand new vapers asking questions or seeking help with a brand new cloud chunker. :|
 

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So... you should start reading here:


(8) A Beginner's Guide to Your First Mechanical Mod | E-Cigarette Forum

(12) Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries - Part I | E-Cigarette Forum

(16) Explain it for the dumb noob: Ohm's Law calculations for a Mechanical Mod. | E-Cigarette Forum

You'll need to know it all intimately. THEN go buy a wismec reuleaux rx 200 to start with (it's regulated), with a wismec reaux tank (advanced kit) and some coils that go with them, and 6 Sony vtc5 batteries from liion wholesale so you know they are authentic, and a 4 bay xtar battery charger. That is your starting point.

XTAR VC4 Charger

Wismec REUX Sub-Ohm RTA Tank | Ultra-Versatile Structure

Wismec Reuleaux RX200 200W TC Box Mod by Jay Bo Designs | Matte White, Black, White/Cyan, Black/Red

Sony 18650 VTC5 Battery Genuine & Tested - 20-30A 2600mAh - Flat Top - Wholesale Discount

The above is what I purchased for my son, and he is happy with it all. Very happy.
 
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Hmm- not to go too far off on a tangent here, but yuo've gotten a lot of vape-related advice already, and tricking is not my gig, so...

I do have some advice for you about games. I'm just old enough to barely remember the advent of computer games. I was fascinated by them from the beginning. Competitive online gaming began in 1993, a little late for me (apologies to Philip Larkin and the historical record.) I first played a competitive online game in... early '97 I'm pretty sure? I would have been 25 at the time, and was a belated CS undergrad. It's probably a very good thing that I was too old and too busy to completely devote myself to Quake, as I might have if I had been born 10 years later.

That said, I got pretty good at Quake. Not good enough to play professionally, but good enough that I eventually played casual games with the best players in the world. Who stomped me in a very lopsided fashion (people often fail to appreciate how big the gap between being very good at something and being the absolute best at it generally is, not just in video games. Competing with the very best at something you're merely very good at, especially when there's no real room for excuses, can be a valuable and eye-opening experience. It was for me, at least.)

As recently as a few years ago I worked in an animation studio, mostly with people much younger than me who blew off steam by playing TF2 in the office. I started playing too, and because of my experience with Quake and the lack of matchmaking in TF2 I was ridiculously dominant in pubs within about 100 hours of picking the game up, and eventually dipped my toes into comp play. I'd be very surprised if I weren't the best Scout NA over the age of 40 for a couple of years there, especially when it came to raw DM. Again, I eventually wound up playing with the best players in the world, even if just on DM servers, and again they were a lot better than me...

I played a bit of LoL a few years ago, 'cause a friend wanted me too. Didn't get very good at it, but I did at least watch some SoloRenektonOnly and get a feel for the game as a whole. And I at least got a feel for the outrageous toxicity of the player-base ;). Then, last year, I wound up sitting on my hands for a while as various things worked themselves out, and played some Dota 2. Well, I am pretty sure that if I put the time in I could get as good at MOBAs as I was at shooters, which would probly make me low-mid-diamond at LoL or 5k at DOTA. I think I'm too old to want to bother bother now though.

The thing is, one of the reasons I could always get good at these games is that I learned to master my frustration with them (that was, perhaps, easier in the days when every teenager you played with didn't think he was going to make millions playing the game, and that you were the main thing holding them back, because ELO hell right?) without discounting it. I learned to analyze my play critically without becoming too invested in it (and while I played casually, that doesn't mean I didn't spend hours watching replays of my play in slow-motion looking for flaws.) And I learned, eventually, to limit the degree to which I blamed teammates for my own failures. (None of us are 100% on that one, I'm afraid ;) .)

There are a _lot_ of lessons to be learned from playing games, and maybe especially MOBAs (though why you play LoL instead of Dota is beyond me.) If you spend a lot of time playing them at your age how you approach them might significantly shape how you approach other things later in life. Some people think video games are a waste of time- I'd say that given the complexity of a game like Dota or LoL it's an opportunity for you to build character, or not.

Let me ask you a question, and it's an important one. Do you believe in ELO hell? When you get frustrated, and want to vape to relieve it, is it frustration over your play, or frustration over your teammates play? Frustration over the former has to be managed. Frustration over the latter is nonsense in PUGs- get better if you want to be matched with better teammates.

Do you yell at teammates who are doing badly, or do you try to keep their spirits up, and help them if you can? If you do the former just switching to doing the latter will raise your ELO enough to match you with better teammates- it's a virtuous circle. Staying positive, and quelling negativity on your team is worth a few hundred ELO points, at least.

I won't encourage you to vape or discourage you from vaping. I'm also not going to tell you not to play LoL (well, you ought to play Dota, but whatever.) I will encourage you to make the most of the time you spend playing team games with random toxic strangers, and I'm inclined to think that you ought to reflect seriously on your reactions to the game and what they mean. Vape if you want, but first deal with the underlying questions. Real life can resemble MOBAs a little more than is comfortable (though you don't get to tell people to kill themselves, for the most part, without HR getting involved.)
 

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@go_player I'll be honest in my very honest opinion most mobas have toxic community, in fact most online games with competitive aspects are this way, it just so happens LOL has THE worst community known to gamers (in fact there's been enough articles,videos,blogs and all on it) wether it be dota or LOL they're fundamentaly the exact same thing toxic community with too many childrens and people blaming their own teamates. That's mainly why i too played shooters most of my life (believe me nothing worst than being on a negative ks ratio) i've raged alot,went as far as throwing my headset and mouse at the wall one day. Was it all exagerated ? Why yes of course it was but man did i learn patience since then (Mostly since i didn't want to buy a new headset+mouse every month :p) to me mobas have nothing interesting,i can't even understand how someone can play these but guess i'm more oldschool even though i'm only 25. I do still think vaping is not a good solution to game rage,then again it's not like we could stop him from vaping anyway, so imho again i'd rather direct anyone in the right direction and give them good advice vape wise than tell them vaping is not for them don't vape etc. Mostly because hey at least he aint smoking :p
 

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@go_playerwent as far as throwing my headset and mouse at the wall one day.

Well, I'm inclined to think that smashing stuff is, while sometimes cathartic, not usually very productive, especially when it's your stuff. You throw headphones at the wall because you're not good, and you're not good because you throw headphones at the wall. If you ever want to be good, or at least have working headphones, you're going to have to break that cycle.
 

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Well, I'm inclined to think that smashing stuff is, while sometimes cathartic, not usually very productive, especially when it's your stuff. You throw headphones at the wall because you're not good, and you're not good because you throw headphones at the wall. If you ever want to be good, or at least have working headphones, you're going to have to break that cycle.
Ahah yeah totally but i haven't broke anything for years (i was basically like 15-16 when i did that) i value my money now and don't like throwing it at the wall with the headset you know :p

Also @Tonee N Don't worry it's mostly gamer jargon or in my case gamer's stupidity :lol:
 
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