New User Question: Alternatives to Eversmoke's cartomizers

[Bronyaur71]

I recently purchased a basic starter kit from EverSmoke. I'm happy with the hardware and the flavor of the cartomizers. However, their strongest cartridges are 18mg. I find myself wanting a stronger e-liquid.

My question is... Are there any suppliers that have a cartomizer that is compatible with the EverSmoke battery (I think it's a KR808D-2, but I'm not sure) and e-liquid with strengths above 18mg?

I'm sorry if this has been asked and answered elsewhere. If it has, I haven't been able to find it. Thanks in advance for the advice.

 

[Spazmelda]

My first e-cig was a kr808d-2 and it was not easy to find cartomizers. That was about a year ago, so that may have changed. At the time, one of the few places I found was az-smoke free. Here is a link to their blank kr808d-2 cartomizers: KR808D-2 Cartomizers, Blank, Yellow

If you look around you may be able to find others.

Now, from experience I can tell you that you'd probably be better off in the long run switching to a battery with a more popular threading size, like 510s. I ordered some of the blanks from azsmokefree, and before I'd even used them all I'd decided to upgrade to a different battery.

 

[Spazmelda]

Here is another vendor that carries them: KR808D-2 or GreenSmoke compatible blank cartomizer - package of five

 

[Bronyaur71]

I recently ordered some Johnson Creek smoke juice (24mg) and a flexible tipped syringe to try and refill the EverSmoke cartomizers. Hopefully, that will get me through until I can adapt to vaping (that is as long as I can successfully refill the carts and the flavor and strength of the juice is acceptable to me).

I also found on here links to various KR808D-2 adapters. Are they worthwhile?

I probably will move to a different setup in the near future. I need something that is easily portable and durable. You've already recommended the 510s. What others do you think I should consider?

If I'm successful at moving completely over to e-cigs, my wife will likely join me. So, this is kind of a big deal.

Thanks ever so much!

 

[Spazmelda]

I bought some adapters kr808d-2 to 510. They work fine, but I don't use them anymore. I could send you one if you want (assuming I can still find them).

I'm no expert in the different thread types, but if I was starting all over again I wouldn't buy anything but 510. There are just so many choices out there for that thread type. 808d-1 is a lot more standard than the d-2, a lot easier to find. I may be wrong, but I think if you see something listed simply as 808, they usually mean 808d-1. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on that.

ETA: you should have no problem refilling the cartomizers you have. The original kit I bought had pre filled cartos, that weren't supposed to be refillable. The caps were glued on, but with some forceful prying they came off okay, after that filling was just like any other carto.

 

[Bronyaur71]

Thanks. I may take you up on the adapter if I decide to go that route later on. If the refills and/or blank carts don't work I'll be looking into the 510.

So far, I'm really excited about moving over to vaping.

 

[Spazmelda]

Good luck! I hope it works out for you. This site is so helpful, so if you have any questions or concerns post here and someone will answer you. Usually it's busier here, but I guess not many of us are awake yet this morning.

 

[MickeyRat]

I haven't looked at what you have. From the previous posts, I'm assuming that it's a KR808D-2 I'm glad you like it but, in a cigarette sized kit you can do better. I suggest you take a look at the Smokeless Image Volt when you're ready for more batteries. That's a KR808D-1 battery.

However, to solve your more immediate problem, the standard 808 is a KR808D-1. You'll be able to use cartos from a lot more places if you get a D2 to D1 adapter at LeCig Electronic CIgarette Store - Adapters. If at some point you decide to switch over to a D1, that site also has a D1 to D2 adapter to ease the transition.

 

[Spazmelda]

Oh, I forgot to mention that the adapter I have is kr808d-2 battery to 510. It's this one here: Adaptor, Kr808D-2 Battery to 510 Atomizer

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

808 to 510 adapters work well and even if you eventually upgrade to a 510 connector it's always nice to have the 808 A's a backup.

 

[SheldonV]

One thing to keep in mind also with KR808D-2's while not popular because of their limitations (ie not a lot of vendors have them and they are pricey), do give good voltage. My KR808D-1's, though they claim 4.2 volts, just don't hit as hard with throat hit and warm vapor. I still use my GreenSmoke long battery because, for me, it lasts from when I wake up until I get home. Also, the Menthol and Peach from EverSmoke tastes amazing (I use to smoke .75 to a pack a day of cigs, I quite back in November 11th 2011 so you can gauge the usage).

Now, what everyone is saying is true. At a price per puff ratio, going 510 will save you a ton in the long run. I vape KR808D-2's and KR808D-1's in public because the mods sometimes look like... (Other things). But, I do use my eGo batteries now more in public and since the eGo Twist came in the mail last week, probably more.

Keep going, and when you're ready, I'd recommend an eGo twist because it's low in price, so you can get Variable Voltage, you'll really understand it more once you try it, gives better throat hit and flavor (on some flavors) at higher voltage and a 510 connector so you can try the ocean of cartomizers, clearomizers, atomizers, repairable atomizers and tanks system that are out there and low priced, amazing e-liquid that you can customize in so many different ways, it'll keep you up all night just deciding.

If you like it, you can then proceed to the mods, which is another mountain of great choices.

All in all, it's a fun ride. I'm just getting into mods with a vTube and, as I stated, an eGo Twist so I'm still a noob. Just keep plucking away and you and your wife will have a blast.

 

[Mroutlaw]

Smokeless image sells 808 cartos and they are awesome. They are horizontal bottom coil so they don't burn as easy. They sell them prefilled or blank and cost $9 for 5. SI has a lot of sales, especially during holidays. You can also use the code YOURVOLT00 for 15% off now.

Adapters work, however most of the time, you can't use them on automatic batteries.


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[MickeyRat]

Now, what everyone is saying is true. At a price per puff ratio, going 510 will save you a ton in the long run. I vape KR808D-2's and KR808D-1's in public because the mods sometimes look like... (Other things). But, I do use my eGo batteries now more in public and since the eGo Twist came in the mail last week, probably more.

It's a common misconception among those starting out that it's better to use something that looks like a cigarette than something that just looks strange. The thing is if you vape in public, you're going to attract some attention. If it's looks like a cigarette, people are going to think you're smoking a cigarette and many times the will complain the the establishment. If it just looks strange people are going to know you aren't smoking a cigarette. The attention you get then will tend to be of a curious and generally positive nature. You might get questions but, it's not an automatic negative. The typical reaction from a non-smoker is, "Is that one of those e-cigarette things? How cool! How does it work?"

 

[SheldonV]

Well, when I started, I started with disposables. My first kit was the Tornado Tank from Totally Wicked, so I jumped right over "mini" ecigs, or traditional looking ecigs. Now, my case may be unique here in Miami, but even with the eGo T my reactions were, "What's in that, 'Special' tobacco" or after explaining what it is, I get 'Do you know if they make... 'Special' tobacco liquid versions?"

So, for me, just walking around with the "regular" ecigs just works for me especially at work. And, if the... 'other' type of ecig becomes popular, it won't take long for the local officials to find a reason for suspicion.

Part of this is probably from a suspicious nature, but I'd rather be vaping and feel worry free, than not. What ever feels right for you, I say go for it. As long as we're all analog free, that's what counts.

 

[MickeyRat]

So, for me, just walking around with the "regular" ecigs just works for me especially at work. And, if the... 'other' type of ecig becomes popular, it won't take long for the local officials to find a reason for suspicion.

Part of this is probably from a suspicious nature, but I'd rather be vaping and feel worry free, than not. What ever feels right for you, I say go for it. As long as we're all analog free, that's what counts.

Provided you confine your vaping to smoking areas, I don't have a problem with whatever you choose to use. However, if you choose to vape elsewhere in public with something like an 808, you do us all a disservice.

Here's why, I typically ask before I vape in a restaurant. I had a manager explain that he wasn't so sure because when he allowed someone to vape with a cigarette looking kit, he got a lot of complaints about the guy that was smoking. He decided to allow it because what I was vaping (a homemade bottom feeder) was never going to be mistaken for a cigarette. No one complained and everything was fine.

The thing is that restaurant manager was interested in PVs. After that experience most restaurant managers would have just banned them. So, if you go around vaping an 808 in restaurants etc,, you poison the water for the rest of us.

 

[SheldonV]

I hear your view point, and I appreciate you taking the time to inform me, but I must respectfully disagree. If it boiled down to either "Vape on a mod, or none-"regular" ecig or don't vape at all, I don't think that helps the cause at all.

I've been using my eGo twist more in public, as I stated, but if I have the choice of 808's taken from me then I'd feel bullied. I don't think it's right for non-vapors to say "Quiet smoking or just smoke analogs" neither do I feel it's right to take someones choice of 808's or Mods away from them.

I, personally, think people will get use to e-cigs in time as it is, just as my close work mats are getting use to my vTube when brought it in. But, I'm going to go at my own pace, until it feels right for me.

But I do understand your point, the more public awareness is educate, the better it will be for the e-cig community. I do get approached at times with me 808, and they say "Oh, I thought you were smoking in the office with a real cigarette". But, just like you, once I explain, they are relieved. And, I switched a few people that way who were looking for a way to get away from analogs. I just believe we are approaching the same goal from different angles.

 

[MickeyRat]

I hear your view point, and I appreciate you taking the time to inform me, but I must respectfully disagree. If it boiled down to either "Vape on a mod, or none-"regular" ecig or don't vape at all, I don't think that helps the cause at all.

I've been using my eGo twist more in public, as I stated, but if I have the choice of 808's taken from me then I'd feel bullied. I don't think it's right for non-vapors to say "Quiet smoking or just smoke analogs" neither do I feel it's right to take someones choice of 808's or Mods away from them.

I, personally, think people will get use to e-cigs in time as it is, just as my close work mats are getting use to my vTube when brought it in. But, I'm going to go at my own pace, until it feels right for me.

But I do understand your point, the more public awareness is educate, the better it will be for the e-cig community. I do get approached at times with me 808, and they say "Oh, I thought you were smoking in the office with a real cigarette". But, just like you, once I explain, they are relieved. And, I switched a few people that way who were looking for a way to get away from analogs. I just believe we are approaching the same goal from different angles.

That's the thing though many times you won't be approached. No one approached the guy that caused the problem in the restaurant I mentioned either. They approached the manager. It's more courteous to both the proprietors of the establishment and to the vapers that follow you to do what you can to avoid being mistaken for a smoker. Using an 808 in public might make you feel comfortable but, it makes many around you uncomfortable. Some of those around you have the ability to make it so you can never vape there again and neither can anyone else. That includes those that aren't using anything that resembles a cigarette.

Using something that's unfamiliar invokes curiosity. Using something that resembles a cigarette invokes animosity.

 

[SheldonV]

I understand your point, but again, we are in disagreement. I don't believe your one cause is the norm. There are those that will look at 808's and confuse them with analogs. There are also those that will look at mods in fear and ignorance, and never approach you in curiosity either. In ether case, you will drive people to hate them or you based off of a preconceived notions.

I believe the true enemy are the un-educated and those will be swayed irregardless of our actions.

On a plus side, I have 'lured' more curious smokers into the e-cig side, or people who have relatives into looking into e-cigs, by me using an 808. They are 'comforted' psychologically into giving them a try because there is less to change. It's a great gateway into e-cigs. I believe many people begin e-cigs through 808's and move on to mods. Some never stop.

To say that me using 808's in a restaurant (which I never do, BTW. If someone sees 'vapor' in the air and they have a child, regardless of how you explain it to them or what your vaping on, they have been conditioned to fear for their children and will lash out, whether to you or management, doesn't matter.) is the cause of all the issues is not entirely true. In some cases, I'll agree. But, in others the mods, even the eGo's, make everyone mention the 'Explosion' incident (that I'm pretty tired of hearing about) and take two steps back from me, fearing they will catch fire or something.

So for me, I'm just fine the way I vape for now. I vape on my vTube at home then switch to my 808 for use in the car and at work. I've spoken to everyone at my job, including the owner, and they are fine with my 808 there, they were more curious about the explosion factor of my eGo battery, so you can imagine the looks of horror they had with the vTude "Egh", but once I explained the situation, they felt better. And that's about it. Not when I'm shopping or in a restaurant.

Politicians and fear-mongering are doing enough damage than for vapors to start shooting themselves in the foot. I believe, again, each one of these devices are fantastic, and even when I switch completely to mods, if I ever do, I will not hate the 808's. So many people have said "Wow, and they look and feel like regular cigarettes" (I use to use the Blu disposables), "now those I can give a try". If it helps more analog users switch to ecigs, than great.

 

[MickeyRat]

I believe the true enemy are the un-educated and those will be swayed irregardless of our actions.

Of course just remember what I said when you find you can't vape where you did previously.

 

[Bronyaur71]

Wow! Thanks for all the recommendations. It's definitely a lot to mull over. I guess it's just a matter of trial and error until you find what suits you best.

I just received my first bottle of the Johnson Creek juice and I have to say I'm blown away. I was able to refill the carts with no problems. However, I'm still unsure on how much juice to put in each cart. I started out with 0.7 ml per cart, but it seemed like more would fit without a problem. I was afraid of over filling if I put any more in.