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Vaping is a healthier nicotine delivery system than smoking. It is a tobacco harm reduction method.
One could use vaping to cut down on their nicotine usage, and eventually quit both smoking and vaping. That choice is yours to make.
When I began vaping, my e-liquid's nicotine concentration was 18 mg. I'm down to 3 or 6 mg. I could probably go nic-free, but like you I like the effects of a little nicotine in my vape. You might say that vaping is my vice. I can live with that. It's certainly better than smoking.
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Yea i get it and eventually when i get to 0mg which is my goal i will decide if i wanna just quit vaping or keep vaping without nicotine
I do feel like i am less addicted to vaping now 9 days into it than i used to be addicted to cigarretes and also i feel alot better healthwise
I actually got to a point where i enjoy coffe a lot more vaping tobacco flavor that gives to that spicy feeling in the throat than having a cigarrete in hand and while writing this i dont feel like having another cancer stick ever again....
I tried today mixing 6mg liquid with 0mg liquid (0mg liquid i chain smoke before i go to sleep with the left over of the 6mg tank i had for that day) but it easnt enough and i finished the tank before the end od the day and ended up filling again so i guess i will give it some more time and move to 3mg liquid mixed with 6mg when i feel ready
I might add, I'd recommend not go too fast in dropping your nic concentrations. Your first priority is to get off and stay off of the sticks. Then systematically drop your nic concentration a little at a time. If you go too fast you'll likely be disappointed with your results.
what in your opinion is too fast ?
because "when i feel right" ends up almost never comes
just like it was with cigarettes there is never a good time to quit or start smoking less
yea 24 seems a lot to me (and i smoked sometimes 5 cigs a day sometimes even more than half a pack)
im on 6mg 2.5 ML a day so my way down is gonna be faster i guess
Not that I was intentionally trying to drop my nic concentration, it took me a few years to go from 18mg to 3mg. It sorta happened naturally. I like a smoother vape (not a big fan of nicotine's "throat hit"). I did drop my nic concentration by half when I began sub-ohm vaping.
My point to you was not to expect to go from 18mg down to zero-nic in just a 2 month period. That ain't likely going to happen.
Most of us are not only physically addicted to nicotine, but the BEHAVIOR of smoking. The hand-to-mouth behavior and the satisfaction one gets from inhaling/exhaling either from smoking or vaping is just as much a part of the addiction as nicotine is.
I started (almost 8 years ago) with 24 mg nic, then dropped to 18 almost immediately. I stayed there for several months, then I started getting hiccups when I vaped. When I lowered my nic, they stopped. Each time after that, when my body started reacting by giving me the hiccups, I’d lower my nic. Worked. Now I’m at 6 mg, and no reaction. I’ve been at 6 mg for a couple of years now. I’m thinking I may stay right here (I love vaping and am in no hurry to give it up...if ever.) forever. But...if I start getting hiccups, I’ll drop it again.
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Thanks for the math. Can you explain a little more about this
What is the total amount of nic on that before deducting what was not absorbed MTL generally speaking?
This is what I have been using as a guide before absorption rate
30 ML BOTTLE
1% - 360 MG OF NIC
6% - 180 MG OF NIC
3% - 90 MG OF NIC
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well im a bit psychological stuck in mind on how healthier it would be to smoke nothing since the 7 months phase i tried to quit smoking without any success
i know vaping is actually not that bad at least compared to smoking
if only there was a research already about long time vapers maybe that would help
I totally feel you on not wanting to be addicted to anything, but if you push yourself too hard you may end up smoking again... counteracting what you're trying to do! First, worry about detoxing from all the other crap you're addicted to in cigarettes. Then it will be WAY easier to quit the nicotine. Seriously, I know it's hard to believe now after having smoked for so long, but quitting nicotine is like quitting caffeine. It is all the other stuff in cigarettes that is way more addictive... which is why you crave it despite vaping. One step at a time! That initial quitting smoking phase is the hardest part. Once you get done with that, the rest is way easier!
1% is 10mg per ml - so a total of 300mg in a 30ml bottle
3% is 30mg per ml - so a total of 900mg in a 30ml bottle
6% is 60mg per ml - so a total of 1800mg in a 30ml bottle
i still do what i used to do with cigarettes just now with the e cigarrete
i still vape with coffe
i still vape after a meal
i still chain vape when i am drinking
i still vape before igo to sleep
i never vape after i smoked weed
should i maybe stop with those habits?
I vaped 36mg juice for the last 7 years. started to DIY beginning of this year and dropped my nic down to 18 recently. Going to drop it to 12mg the next time I mix. I notice no difference on the amount of cravings I have, or the amount of juice I vape.
I smoked 2 pks a day of full Flavored camels for over 30 years. When I started vaping 24mg nic was high strength and 36mg was extra high. The 36 kept me off of the stink sticks for 7 years. I am a lazy vaper, just kept ordering the same juice. Back then there was no sub ohming. My 1.5~1.7 boge cartos were pretty low.
I think I could go down to 6mg or less pretty easily. I vape 1.5 ohms @ 10 watts and 5mls a day. I just had a chest xray and exam last week and my lungs are clear.
I think I could go down to 6mg or less pretty easily. I vape 1.5 ohms @ 10 watts and 5mls a day. I just had a chest xray and exam last week and my lungs are clear.
I know, coming into the conversation a bit late. But, I would vape until you feel like you don't need to, and vape when you feel the need to. Your first goal is the hardest.. to transition to vaping first. If it involves chain vaping, then that's what it takes.
Most people don't realize, a cigarette has 2000ish chemicals in it, and Nicotine is not the only addictive chemical. So your first step, is to cut out the 1,990ish chemicals first, and switch to just one addictive chemical...which is nicotine. Once you get it down to just nicotine, you can start to ween yourself off of that slowly by reducing the MG/ML in your juice. But start with the first step... quitting the stinkies all together and switch to a vape only device. You can manage the nicotine levels in vape, you cannot (or at least, not easily) with a regular cigarette.
I also wouldn't worry about trying to match your nicotine level from smoking. Although I went through the same worries, there is a lot of confusion about what equals what. There are so many variables, that it's not easy to make a comparison. For example, the absorption rate between vaping and smoking are different, along with the chemical additives added to a cigarette to prolong the nicotine in your bloodstream (one example, being ammonia added as a binder to the cigarette paper). The nicotine in a cigarette essentially stays in the bloodstream longer. Delivery method also helps cigarettes deliver nicotine by having smaller molecules and penetrating deeper into the lungs, and once there, the tar helps the nicotine stick to the inside of the lungs. So, there is no 1:1 relationship between the nicotine in a cigarette and the nicotine in a vape. Just find your comfortable level, even if it means vaping more often then work from there towards your goal.
Like others have said, there is no long term study. We can tout it as a safer alternative to smoking, mainly because there's danger associated with just about anything we do. Breathing pure filtered air and drinking filtered and distilled water is the benchmark. Anything past that benchmark is considered dangerous by the governments eyes. A dramatic analogy would be drinking tap water is a safe alternative to drinking sodas. Although it might be 99.99% safer, tap water has trace elements in it that can be considered dangerous. Same thing can be said for smoking vs vaping. Although vaping is not %100 safe, it is on a whole new level of what's considered safe. There's been research saying it's %95 safer. But unless vaping gets to the same level as filtered and distilled water, it's not considered %100 safe.
There won't be concrete evidence on long term vaping until vaping has been around to be considered a "long term" solution. AT least now we have computers and chemical analysis unlike the days when smoking was popular. Back then, they had to make the correlation between smoking and cancer by statistics... "X amount of people diagnosed with lung cancer smoked, so there must be a link between smoking and cancer". That is how the relationship between smoking and cancer was discovered. Now a days, we know many chemicals, and which ones are cancerous. So, they know the dangers beforehand. I think they'll find the results match their predictions much better than what they did in the 50's.
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