New Vaper with a 510 here.

[CharlieOscar]

I'm usually about a 1.5 - 2 pack a day smoker. I had heard of e-cigs almost a year ago, but never really looked into it, until about 1.5 weeks ago a thread on another forum I frequent reminded me that these exist. I got interested, very much so. I found innovapor.com as a few guys over on the other forum had some coupon codes and placed an order for an Evo kit, well that got screwed up and i changed it to a 510, and that got screwed up (seriously, wtf innovapor) so while waiting for them I ordered from Dietsmokes.

I love this thing, I got the 510 from him about 2 days ago, and while it does seem very different than smoking, well more different than say chewing nic gum. I have really only felt like having about 4 or 5 regular smokes both those days, you the ones. the first thing in the AM, the after eating, that type of thing. Even just being 2 days the cigarettes are starting to taste bad to me and i prefer the 510.

A couple of questions I have for some of you here:

510 users - How long is this "break in period" on the atomizers? I have seen a bunch of video reviews of people using this model and everyone claims "MASSIVE VAPE CLOUDS, like a stage fogger, i cant see around them etc etc!" I have seen the dense thick clouds emitted in these videos, and mine just does not do that. Its roughly about the same visible amount as a light drag on a cigarette (oh srry, "analog" from here on out).

On juice - the juice i have is from dietsmokes, something called liquid express, and some custom stuff that guy makes "Parker's Niquid" both are fairly pleasent tasting, but dont put alot of vapor out, any ideas on some other good juices that are also known good vapor producers? I may be ordering the sampler from Johnsons Creek, but other than that, from reading this forum there doesnt generally seem to be a common draw to one brand or another here. not like analog smokers where like 80% smoke either Marlboros or Camels. The only thing i know is i WONT like the fruity flavors i have no desire to vape grapes or watermelons.

Other than that, I'll Just say thanks to all of you who contribute here, cause I read this forum alot, and it has helped me get so much information on this.

Also, I am an electronics technician by trade, so expect Me to be hitting up the Mod forums pretty hard once i get over the initial excitement about making the switch.

 

[happily]

if your atty get's too flooded it will gurgle and not produce large clouds. Detach it and blow it out. Also try a primer puff before inhale and inhale slow and steady. You will probably change your mind on what flavors you will or won't like. The ones i thought would be good weren't and the ones I had no desire to try were good.

some atty's have a break in period and some don't but there is more of a learning how to inhale curve....................slow and steady

 

[hittman]

Well hello! I am only three days into vaping but I thought I would try to respond to your questions. As far as a break in period, I have not experienced that with my atomizers. It seems so far that it varies with the juice that I use. I like the jc original and tennessee cured the best so far. Also with the amount of vapor, I have noticed that sometimes I need to pull the filling out a little because it kinda gets packed in by the atomizer and the liquid doesn't wick as well when that happens. Also if I don't allow a few seconds between hits, it doesn't have enough time to wick for the next hit and the vapor will be light. I have not tried the liquid that you bought but out of the four or five that I have tried so far, the jc that I mentioned above is my favorite even though I was a menthol smoker for about 20 years. I would recommend the sampler pack. I have been enjoying it so far. I like the three flavors I have tried out of it. I am with you though on the fruit flavors. I really don't think I will like them.

 

[solitary1]

As you go on without analogs you may recover much of your senses of taste and smell so don't be to quick to judge flavors.Mix it up and try some again in a month or so.At first the subttle tastes were oblivious to me but after three weeks of vaping the world is becoming a tastier place.

 

[LoboTx]

Hi CO,
I'm a day behind you. Got my Joye 510 from yourlastcig yesterday afternoon, started vaping after the 8 hour charge on the 1st batt. Doing some serious vaping this AM with the occasional analog (they're still talkin to me if ya know what I mean).
I've read tons of threads here and watched a lot of vids. This forum, esp the poll thread, steered me toward the 510. Vapor seems similar to what I've seen in vids, so no problems yet. Have had to practice the inhale thing, holding in mouth, then to lungs to avoid an instantaneous cough but that seems to be getting better.
My questions for the old pros here are:
- Can one vape more or less constantly ? Seems necessary to me today to keep away from the analogs. My concerns are: 1.) an overdose of nic, and 2.) increasing my tolerance to nic to an unacceptable level
- Is it normal to feel quite a bit of heat on the atomizer ?
I was a 1.5 pack a day (menthol) smoker of 38 years, have no desire to quit per se, but recognize I have to change something - this looks like the best alternative yet.
Thanks for the great forum ppl !!!

 

[Jennee26]

Hi CO,
I'm a day behind you. Got my Joye 510 from yourlastcig yesterday afternoon, started vaping after the 8 hour charge on the 1st batt. Doing some serious vaping this AM with the occasional analog (they're still talkin to me if ya know what I mean).
I've read tons of threads here and watched a lot of vids. This forum, esp the poll thread, steered me toward the 510. Vapor seems similar to what I've seen in vids, so no problems yet. Have had to practice the inhale thing, holding in mouth, then to lungs to avoid an instantaneous cough but that seems to be getting better.
My questions for the old pros here are:
- Can one vape more or less constantly ? Seems necessary to me today to keep away from the analogs. My concerns are: 1.) an overdose of nic, and 2.) increasing my tolerance to nic to an unacceptable level
- Is it normal to feel quite a bit of heat on the atomizer ?
I was a 1.5 pack a day (menthol) smoker of 38 years, have no desire to quit per se, but recognize I have to change something - this looks like the best alternative yet.
Thanks for the great forum ppl !!!

Lobo - the 510 atomizers do get very hot. Also, You can get an overdose of nic if you do vape too much. What I would do is maybe have some low or 0 nic for constant vaping, then some high for when you need that nicotine "fix". Hope this helps.

 

[vjnnc]

I am utterly amazed at how the world of smell and taste has changed in the short time since starting to vape in favor of smoke - I found that I needed a higher strength liquid at first (smoked Marlboro Lights for years) - the 24mg strength now seems even a bit high; but when I drop down to the 16; it's not enough. I've mixed 36 and 16 - seems okay; but my issue seems to be with consistency in the "hit" - I now use the M501 over the DSE901 - but tend to alternate between the two.

I've had to experiment quite a bit to get the result(s) I wanted - and can't ever see myself going back to "analog" cigarettes.

I don't care WHAT the FDA says or does, I find it very hard to believe that we won't be able to get these things if we want them.

 

[happily]

Hi CO,
I'm a day behind you. Got my Joye 510 from yourlastcig yesterday afternoon, started vaping after the 8 hour charge on the 1st batt. Doing some serious vaping this AM with the occasional analog (they're still talkin to me if ya know what I mean).
I've read tons of threads here and watched a lot of vids. This forum, esp the poll thread, steered me toward the 510. Vapor seems similar to what I've seen in vids, so no problems yet. Have had to practice the inhale thing, holding in mouth, then to lungs to avoid an instantaneous cough but that seems to be getting better.
My questions for the old pros here are:
- Can one vape more or less constantly ? Seems necessary to me today to keep away from the analogs. My concerns are: 1.) an overdose of nic, and 2.) increasing my tolerance to nic to an unacceptable level
- Is it normal to feel quite a bit of heat on the atomizer ?
I was a 1.5 pack a day (menthol) smoker of 38 years, have no desire to quit per se, but recognize I have to change something - this looks like the best alternative yet.
Thanks for the great forum ppl !!!

when you get too much nic you will feel it in your head and then just take a break........main thing would be reach a suitable level to eventually get off the analog's may take a few days when the atty is too hot, let it cool off a bit......I also had no intention of quitting and after smoking 2-3 packs for 20 years, but within a week e-cig's just became my new favorite brand.

good luck

 

[LoboTx]

Lobo - the 510 atomizers do get very hot. Also, You can get an overdose of nic if you do vape too much. What I would do is maybe have some low or 0 nic for constant vaping, then some high for when you need that nicotine "fix". Hope this helps.

Thanks Jennee. I'm on the 18mg at the moment with a bottle of 24mg menthol standing by. I don't think I could drop to a zero level at this point and avoid withdrawal symptoms/shock. I am a bona fide A-D-D-I-C-T and happily admit to it. Again, my only concern is increasing my tolerance and overdosing, so hopefully the 18-24mg won't do so, and if they do I'll notice some symptoms before I keel over (palpitations, nausea, etc).
Another question for anyone who reads this - I've noticed as I vape I tend to puff on this thing as I would a pipe - filling my mouth more than inhaling, and it seems to be keeping the cravings at bay. Is this due to absorption through mucous tissue in the mouth ? I've read the acidic nature of most liquids could cause this, with less absorption in the lungs? (cigs being more alkaline).
Pretty excited about this whole deal. Whatever works is what I'm going to do.

 

[Jennee26]

Thanks Jennee. I'm on the 18mg at the moment with a bottle of 24mg menthol standing by. I don't think I could drop to a zero level at this point and avoid withdrawal symptoms/shock. I am a bona fide A-D-D-I-C-T and happily admit to it. Again, my only concern is increasing my tolerance and overdosing, so hopefully the 18-24mg won't do so, and if they do I'll notice some symptoms before I keel over (palpitations, nausea, etc).
Another question for anyone who reads this - I've noticed as I vape I tend to puff on this thing as I would a pipe - filling my mouth more than inhaling, and it seems to be keeping the cravings at bay. Is this due to absorption through mucous tissue in the mouth ? I've read the acidic nature of most liquids could cause this, with less absorption in the lungs? (cigs being more alkaline).
Pretty excited about this whole deal. Whatever works is what I'm going to do.

Whatever works for you Lobo. I was just giving an example. When your able to cut down your nic content for good, then you can try the 0 or low and maybe use the 18 for the "fix". But your getting the idea. And I completely understand being a bonafide addict to analogs. I was too. Yes, if you get a nic overdose you will know before you keel over. Nausea, maybe a headache, stomacache. You'll want to lay down and not vape for a while. I can not answer your second question however, I have no clue. LOL.... Also, once you get off the analogs you may have symptoms from that also such as coughing a lot. That is your lungs clearing out. Maybe even a sore throat. I think I even had a runny nose.

 

[happily]

Thanks Jennee. I'm on the 18mg at the moment with a bottle of 24mg menthol standing by. I don't think I could drop to a zero level at this point and avoid withdrawal symptoms/shock. I am a bona fide A-D-D-I-C-T and happily admit to it. Again, my only concern is increasing my tolerance and overdosing, so hopefully the 18-24mg won't do so, and if they do I'll notice some symptoms before I keel over (palpitations, nausea, etc).
Another question for anyone who reads this - I've noticed as I vape I tend to puff on this thing as I would a pipe - filling my mouth more than inhaling, and it seems to be keeping the cravings at bay. Is this due to absorption through mucous tissue in the mouth ? I've read the acidic nature of most liquids could cause this, with less absorption in the lungs? (cigs being more alkaline).
Pretty excited about this whole deal. Whatever works is what I'm going to do.

I puff a lot myself and honestly believe it is equal to or more effective than inhaling................of course I do both

 

[Vince1]

Hi LoboTx, you've got your acidic and your alkaline reversed,

Cigar smoke and smoke from traditionally cured pipe tobaccos is alkaline, so
nicotine from these products is readily absorbed in the mouth. Inhalation is unnecessary for nicotine absorption from cigar smoke.
Moreover, inhalation of cigar smoke is difficult because the smoke is inherently irritating.
Freebase, alkaline nicotine tends to be more in the vapor phase of cigar smoke than in the particulate phase, and, as mentioned above, is inherently irritating.
While inhalation of cigar and pipe smoke occurs, especially in people who also have smoked cigarettes, it is not necessary for nicotine absorption.

Cigarette smoke is more acidic than cigar smoke. This characteristic results in the nicotine from cigarettes mainly being in the ionized, non-free base form, dissolved in the smoke particles instead of out in the vapor phase. The nicotine in cigarette smoke cannot be readily absorbed in the mouth or nose. Inhalation is necessary for absorption to occur. Inhalation is facilitated by the fact that cigarette smoke feels less harsh in the throat than does cigar smoke.
This is related to nicotine being dissolved in the smoke particles instead of being in the vapor phase. Claims of “mildness,” which have been a staple of cigarette advertising for much of this century, reflect this property of cigarette smoke.
I have not seen any info on the alkaline properties of e-liquid but will keep an eye out.
You are correct either way, it works and that is what matters. Although it would be nice to know which is best, mouth or lungs, I think I may have to research this further. I hate it when people make me think, lol.

Charlie, some of my 510 atomizers take 3-4 days to start working properly, so give it a day or 3.
If you don't like fruity, try the RY4 (get anywhere) or Tennessee Cured from Johnsons Creek, they are really good flavors.
Another note on the 510. every once in a while you will want to take a paperclip and pop the end plug out of the cart and dry up the juice with a paper towel. The condensation from the vapor makes it collect in there.
Happy vaping and welcome to ECF.

 

[LoboTx]

Hi LoboTx, you've got your acidic and your alkaline reversed,

Thanks Vince - a little danger is a knowledgable thing, or however that goes. . I've read so much about this topic lately my brain is mush ! I do recall seeing an article somewhere that speculates about the pH of the vapor and its affect on absorption in mouth vs lungs, and that's where my thought sprung from. I do seem to be keeping the cravings at bay with little inhalation though - placebo effect ? Unlikely, as there's no doubt I'm an addict. Still had six analogs today, but that's down from 30 by now.
This is day 1 on my 510, so wondering how I should expect my atomizer to change in a couple days (your note to Charlie) ?
Thanks again.

 

[Vince1]

Vapor gets a lot better, my first 2 weeks I almost gave up on mine because I got a weak atomizer. When I got a replacement (the kits then only had one at.) It was like night and day. Much better, almost like the videos you see. But video can be deceiving and look like a lot more vapor on camera (they say it adds 10 pounds,lol).
The 510 is a great producer of vapor, even if you have to get another atomizer.
Some work great right out of the box, others take some use to get going. The good news is that the ones that take time to get going seem to last longer.

When I started I smoked 6 cigs my first day with vaping, 4 the next then 2 the third and then quit for good. It's a process.

 

[meir]

CharlieOscar,
Congrats on your purchase of a 510. They are vapor machines. If you are not getting a lot vapor I suggest you change your Smoke Juice. Also a little VG added to the mix will increase vapor production.

I'm new, what's VG and where can I get it?

 

[DaBrat]

From one hard core smoker to another (I used to smoke when I woke up in the middle of the night). I was so bad I thought the primer tasted good on my first attys...lol REALLY!!! I couldn't even tell. It does take practise to get it right I still suck in juice on ocassion. I found cutting a higher strength juice with VG to produce more vapor but now I don't remember the analog smoke too fondly. Clouding up the room and such.

As far as when to get off.... I just put my analogs in the freezer to start had one in the a.m. when I ran out I was out. starting vaping my head off but finally came back to earth. The funny thing is I was smoking so much I had symptoms of nic OD BEFORE the analaogs.... nothing like a Newport 40 or so a day.... That has greatly improved since vaping.

 

[DaBrat]

I'm new, what's VG and where can I get it?

Vegetable glycerin.... I got mine (Willots) in the candy making section of Hobby Lobby.

 

[Vince1]

VG is vegetable glycerin. check out the DIY juice section for places to get it. I get mine on E-bay. Be sure to get 100% pure. It's used in cosmetics and for baking cakes and stuff, lotions and potions, etc. I've heard some people say they found it at Wal-Mart in the cosmetics or bakery sections.

 

[Greeneyes412Luv]

Im still learning and mixing also...I add a little VG(Wiltons from Hobby Lobby as mentioned) and the vape is sooo much more. I don't do 50/50 as some do here, yet....and not sure if I will. Like I said, Im trying to find my 'fix' on not only nic content, but also flavor...and also, I know from reading that if I cut too much, then I will lose flavor....For me, it's a tough trial and error but Im still working on it. As far a analogs, I am also still hanging on to them...for security purposes I suppose. But, I do know that I have lessened my 1-2 pack a day down tremendously.

 

[meir]

I found some VG, it looks like good stuff so I ordered it here luckyvitamin. com /item /itemKey /56843 (without the spaces, i cant post links)