New York raises age of tobacco purchase to 21

[darkstorm]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/31/n...-raise-tobacco-purchasing-age-to-21.html?_r=0

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/30/new-york-e-cigarette_n_4177361.html

While most of the articles I have read are focusing on cigarettes, this law also makes it a crime for anyone under 21 to purchase an electronic cigarette. The law has passed the city council and only awaits Mayor Bloombergs signature. Given this is the mayor that made it illegal to sell a soda pop larger than 16oz there is little doubt that he will sign it.

Thoughts?

 

[Ken_A]

Congratulations New York. You have been Bloomberged again!

 

[TS12000]

Can just see it now

"Mayor Bloomberg raises driving age to 99"

That dude is 100% about controlling others. One power hungry [moderated]

 

[Barbara21]

Eighteen-year-olds are considered adults. They're old enough to fight and die for their country. Yet they can't buy an e-cigarette or a regular cigarette or a drink.

Yeah, makes a lot of sense. (NOT!!)

 

[darkstorm]

Eighteen-year-olds are considered adults. They're old enough to fight and die for their country. Yet they can't buy an e-cigarette or a regular cigarette or a drink.

Yeah, makes a lot of sense. (NOT!!)

You forgot about voting, signing binding contracts, being held criminally liable for a wide array of crimes not applicable to minors and I am sure hundreds of others.

I am of the opinion that if you can make life altering decisions you are an adult. People should either be considered full adults at 18 or at 21. The way it is now, being prohibited from a few things for unquestionably puritanical reasons until 21, makes little rational sense.

 

[retired1]

Moved to Media and General News

 

[Ranic85]

Think of all the 18 years old's that can no longer light up a cool refreshing e-cig after a night of rooting around in the sack! (Giggity)

 

[Anjaffm]

What utter nonsense!
And what a horrible, power-hungry man!

The following saying is attributed to the French King Louis XIV: "L'etat c'est moi" = The State am I.
Louis XIV was an absolute monarch. Say, is a mayor an absolute monarch, ruling over the people by what is believed to be a "divine right"?

I find this very curious indeed.

 

[WarHawk-AVG]

Bloomberged again!

 

[gingersnaps]

I agree with everyone else its total [moderated]. I believe once you are considered an adult you can do what all adults do and buy what they buy. It's like saying ok your 18 now but you really only half adult when you put any age restrictions out. I have never even agreed with no alcohol till 21. If they want to raise legal age for stuff just raise the age till your considered an adult and able to make your own choices. I mean if they think these 18 year olds aren't mature enough then why call them adults and give them some rights but not others.


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[exnihilo]

I say lower the age for everything. [moderated]
cg

 

[Petrodus]

 

[TyPie]

I love NYC, I really do. There is just no place like it on Earth. It is now, though, becoming the ultimate 'nanny' city-state. I happen to personally believe that the consumption of too many sugary soft drinks is very bad for one's health, and we all know about cigarettes. But Bloomberg is way over the top, and an outright megalomaniac.

The complications of diseases like diabetes, cancer and COPD (for example) are extremely expensive long-term, with tremendous economic cost and implications, if you take the time to look. I get it. I also get the point that medical expenses are just way out of control-----there is no rhyme or reason in the United States of America in 2013 and beyond, that a particular disease or condition should wipe out several lifetimes of savings and finances for individuals or entire families. Something has simply got to be done. I also get what Obamacare is trying to accomplish (though few are certain if this is the right approach). Unfortunately, I don't have too many answers.

BUT, there has just got to be better ways than creating nanny-states and using law as it is being used and abused.
The cynic I have become has gotten me to wondering what forces are really at work behind the scenes there in NYC with Bloomberg. Something is clearly afoot.

 

[Petrodus]

I love NYC, I really do. There is just no place like it on Earth. It is now, though, becoming the ultimate 'nanny' city-state. I happen to personally believe that the consumption of too many sugary soft drinks is very bad for one's health, and we all know about cigarettes. But Bloomberg is way over the top, and an outright megalomaniac.

The complications of diseases like diabetes, cancer and COPD (for example) are extremely expensive long-term, with tremendous economic cost and implications, if you take the time to look. I get it. I also get the point that medical expenses are just way out of control-----there is no rhyme or reason in the United States of America in 2013 and beyond, that a particular disease or condition should wipe out several lifetimes of savings and finances for individuals or entire families. Something has simply got to be done. I also get what Obamacare is trying to accomplish (though few are certain if this is the right approach). Unfortunately, I don't have too many answers.

BUT, there has just got to be better ways than creating nanny-states and using law as it is being used and abused.
The cynic I have become has gotten me to wondering what forces are really at work behind the scenes there in NYC with Bloomberg. Something is clearly afoot.

What's clearly a foot ... is not just in NYC
There are many Bloomberg types in America today.

 

[exnihilo]

Big gov - wah. Small gov - wah.

I'm on tapatalk and cannot see what room this is in. If my political statement does not belong here, please remove.

cg

 

[Petrodus]

These old eyes have seen a lot ... I'm not confused.

 

[rbeckys8]

Un-American!!!! Too controlling!!!

 

[03FXDWG]

It's not just one power hungry Puritan in NYC. You've got a whole bunch of them running things in your town. I would think that NYC works like many other large cities. A group of aldermen or councilors, possibly even 2 layers like congress & senate, have to pass a bill or referendum by some sort of majority--simple or super depending on taxpayer dollars--and then the mayor/chief executive/governor/president signs or not. A majority of the first or first & second layers has to come up with these "keeping our people safe from themselves" laws to begin with. You're blaming Bloomberg but he's only the last link in the chain. You have to stop the links from forming to begin with.

 

[Petrodus]

People get the government they deserve

Simply stating it ...
Your vote is negated by the majority
who are "Low Information Voters"

This also applies to the e-cigarette movement

 

[Orb Skewer]

Expletives, they'll be next ........