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Newb Question - PG Percentage on flavors

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  1. EricMorr

    EricMorr Senior Member

    Jul 2, 2018
    Pitman, NJ
    OK. SO I have been researching starting out with DIY e-liquid. I'm going to take the plunge next paycheck. But I can't find an answer to a question I have. Flavor concentrates are usually PG based, but how do I know what the percentage is? To enter into the EJuice Me up calculator...
     
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  2. somdcomputerguy

    somdcomputerguy vaper dedicato Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Both of the flavors that I sometimes use are PG based and I just put them in eJuice Me Up as 100%. VG isn't even on the list of ingredients, so I don't lose much sleep using that number..
     
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  3. EricMorr

    EricMorr Senior Member

    Jul 2, 2018
    Pitman, NJ
    Do they tell you on the bottle? If it is PG or VG based flavor concentrate? When I'm looking online at flavors (like Wizard Labs) there is nowhere that says VG or PG or even what the actual ingredients are. Just the disclaimer at the bottom: "All flavorings are undiluted, full strength flavor concentrates direct from the manufacturer."
     
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  4. bombastinator

    bombastinator Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    You don
    generally no. Companies like to keep the contents of their flavorings secret. My practice has always been to simply ignore the pg or VG content of the flavoring when making juice and simply inputting it as flavoring. Seems to work ok for me, but I’m not what you might call rigorous with my juice measurements
     
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    somdcomputerguy vaper dedicato Verified Member ECF Veteran

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  6. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Tucson, AZ
    I'm going to say that most (though certainly not all) flavorings may be PG based, (but I mean heck some are alcohol based). If you need that percentage I'd input as PG whatever amount of flavorings you are using as PG, i.e. if you add 10% flavoring, for the most part it will be accurate enough in MOST cases. I have some VG based flavors but by the time I get around to inputting every possible flavor variable in some of my mixes, l think I would lose my mind entirely.

    I would just say count flavors as PG to your overall total and unless you and your vape are SUPER sensitive, or SUPER OCD, well, I think you'll be fine. I don't have that issue but I am PG sensitive and hence, I just count all my flavorings as PG only and don't go much above 10% flavoring which is perfectly fine for my purposes, and ensures I won't be creating something intolerable, although to be totally honest, even if I WEREN'T PG sensitive, I'd probably do that because in the grand scheme of things it's close enough to count in my eyes and etc.

    Anna
     
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  7. Myk

    Myk Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jan 1, 2009
    IL, USA
    I enter flavors of unknown make up as 100% PG. I have PG issues so I'd rather err on the safe side. VG flavors are entered as 100% VG.
     
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  8. IDJoel

    IDJoel Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 20, 2015
    Boise, ID
    Depends on the website. Sometimes you can get a better idea by checking the concentrate manufacturer website (vs. the retailer).

    As a general rule; I figure all concentrates are PG based, unless they specify a VG content. VG is sort of "trendy" at this point, and most manufacturers are all too happy to boast their VG offerings. This is far from any sort of scientific opinion; but it has served my DIY journey just fine.:D
     
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  9. BrotherBob

    BrotherBob ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Dec 24, 2014
    Sunnyvale,CA,USA
    Might like to look at:
    FlavorWorkshopHow
     
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  10. JCinFLA

    JCinFLA Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 21, 2015
    On Wizard Labs...if you'll go to a particular flavoring, and click the Product Info tab...it does show you the ingredients. It doesn't show the % of each one, but does at least list them. That's 1 reason I like buying flavorings from them.

    Here's just an example, to show you where the info is on their website for TFA Silly Rabbit Cereal Flavor. I just picked it at random and when the page popped up...clicked the Product Info tab:

    Silly Rabbit Cereal Flavor Concentrate by TFA (0.27oz)

    ETA: Also, in any eliquid calculator I've used...you just enter 100% in the PG/VG column, for whichever the base is for that flavoring. You don't enter the % of that flavoring that you used there. You input the % of the flavoring out beside the individual flavoring's name, in the % used column.

    While most flavorings are VG or PG based, there are some that are a combination. For example, some of the OSDIYShop One Stop Flavorings and One Stop Blends ARE varying % of VG...like 57% VG, or 68% VG. It shows those clearly on their website though, so you know what to input into the calculator. It will then adjust the PG portion automatically. IMO though, the tiny difference in it being 100% PG based, or being 57% VG/43% PG...isn't going to be noticeable when your mix is made and ready to vape.
     
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  11. SupplyDaddy

    SupplyDaddy I'm considered a Mad Scientist in some circles! Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    San Antonio, Texas
    Since I do not buy VG based flavors, I don't worry about it.
    The calculator I use, you can select if the flavors are PG or VG. (POTV eJuiceCalc - Sorry EFC ;) )

    Actually, I even stopped using the calculator most the time, as I make most of my eliquid in either 100ml or 500ml bottles - 3ml of 100mg Nic (PG based), 8ml Flavor (PG based) and .5ml Liquid Stevia (when it does need sweetness), mix it all together, add VG = 11.5% PG / 88.5% VG. X 5 when I make the big bottles.
     
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  12. EricMorr

    EricMorr Senior Member

    Jul 2, 2018
    Pitman, NJ
    Thanks all for your help! I'll just enter PG 100%, unless I know the flavoring is VG based.
     
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  13. EricMorr

    EricMorr Senior Member

    Jul 2, 2018
    Pitman, NJ
    I see! Says the blind man...
     
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