Newbie again! - Help me choose first e-cigarette

[Bracken]

Ok first off "hello" and I am sure you are fed up with the same question being asked over and over again -but here goes............

I have been smoking over 20 years, am now 44 and want an e-cig to move to/quit.

But what one -I really am baffled by the choice and don't want to make a mistake that will send me back to my usual Berkeley Blue Superkings.

I have seen loads of different ones in garages, shops, etc etc but as yet not took the plunge. A friend suggested totally wicked (i think thats the name). I noticed one called de-bang in shop near me and owner said loads were buying it. Do they all differ??

All I need is a few suggestions and links and I'm ready to buy today.

Reading some stories on here about how effective these e-cigs can be have got me pretty excited.

I smoke about 15 per day, dont really like taste (always have a mint -weird I know). Dont smoke in house, wife hates it , which in a way is good, dont smoke in front of the kids. But enjoy a smoke out the back with a coffee (staring at whellie bin!!) when I am taking out rubbish, getting stuff from car excuses etc etc etc -then routine of brush teeth, spray deodrant all over me to hide smell - what a palava............

To be a Non-smoker.............now how cool would that be.

 

[pufZeppelin]

Ok first off "hello" and I am sure you are fed up with the same question being asked over and over again -but here goes............

I have been smoking over 20 years, am now 44 and want an e-cig to move to/quit.

But what one -I really am baffled by the choice and don't want to make a mistake that will send me back to my usual Barkley Blue Superkings.

I have seen loads of different ones in garages, shops, etc etc but as yet not took the plunge. A friend suggested totally wicked (i think thats the name). I noticed one called de-bang in shop near me and owner said loads were buying it. Do they all differ??

All I need is a few suggestions and links and I'm ready to buy today.

Reading some stories on here about how effective these e-cigs can be have got me pretty excited.

To be a Non-smoker.............now how cool would that be.

Hi Bracken, welcome to the great ECF,

sweet and simple KANGER and VV battery have a look at these, then set your sites on
juice while you wait for vapemail...

Vision Spinner 1300 [VE503] - £23.99 : Vape Escape

EVOD BC Clearomiser [VE505] - £5.95 : Vape Escape

Kanger eVod Kit - Blue

Katana Kit

if you bought batt & evod tanks sep-you need charger http://www.vapeescape.co.uk/Vaping-Spares/Chargers/

Vape Happy

 

[dice57]

Provari, Innokin VTR or SVD, telsa, Vamo, Reo, these are all good devises. With any one of these you probably won't have to shop for a new device for some time. The question then is tube style or box style. Then, how much do you want to pay and what are your goals in vapping? If you are like me, and wanted to just stop smoking but without giving up anything, and enjoy smoking, and looking at vape to continue to inhale clouds of smoke like substance that will give you your nicotine fix, and allow your health to return, and not experience any withdrawals, or urges. And plan on continuing to vape, it it works for you, the go quality. You get what you pay for. Then to top one of the devices, start with an Aspire Vivi Nova BDC, or Protank 2, or maybe a good carto system, depending on the style of atomizer that looks best to you. Then once you get your gear and find some juices that you like, then you can see if rba's are for you. Once one starts using re-buildable atomizers, they are never satisfied with pre built atomizers again, but that's most likely down the road.

I currently have a Provari with the Russian rba, and couldn't be happier. Both are top of the line products, and should provide years of service. I have about $350 invested in those two items alone, including 3 batteries and charger. Are they worth the price of admission? ?Damn straight they are.

The best thing to do is check out my recommendations, and everone else's, do the research and comparisons, find what looks right for you, then go with quality gear. You truly do get what you pay for in this World of Vape. Good luck and welcome to the forum!!

Vape long and Prosper!!!

 

[Racehorse]

I really am baffled by the choice and don't want to make a mistake that will send me back to my usual Berkeley Blue Superkings.

those have about 0.7mg nic so if you smoke 15 per day your ejuice should be about 12mg nic.

If you smoked a whole pack every day of those Berkeleys, I would try 18mg. But i think that might be too strong for you.

Okay now on to hardware.
Vision Spinners or Joyetech Ego Twists (I only buy genuine products).
Evod Clearomizers with some spare coils added to order
OR/AND
Mini Protank II (takes same coils)
Wall adapter / wall wart
USB cable charger (plugs into wall wart)

I just read in deals and steals Good Prophets having a 20% off sale, so that is good for you. YOu can read my blog for other good links, like to deals and steals here, or just go here for now:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/pay-forward-pif/418767-deals-steals-11.html

Find some other sales for juice maybe.

GOOD LUCK, you will love this! And so will your wife cuz you won't stink of ciggies anymore


*I would not move to more expensive devices yet.....these ego type batts will someday become your backups, so it will always be money well spent. Shopping for a mod is not something somebody who has never vaped should do yet.......becuase you have no idea what you LIKE yet. You may want a bottom feeder, or a tube mod, or whatever, and you will not know this yet.
Let's get you vaping NOW, then while you're vaping you can sit on the computer and read thousands of posts about your next mod.

 

[nmackan]

Hello my friend congratulations for your determination You have 2 problems to solve I will try to guide you according to my experience/and choices.
first of all the device is not a complicated machine. you have a battery you have a litlle bottle there is a wire in it and a wick to absorb the liquid towards wire. when close the circuit wire heats the liquid and you draw this vapor instead of smoke. (sorry for the lecturing mode)
Now we can see what we are against
we need a battery to last long. Bigger the MAh longer it lasts. Still we need a spare battery and if the batteries are passthrough this will save you a lot.
Also your batteries can be constant current or variable as VV/VW. Second would provide you to change current to desired point.
If you are unfamiliar about LiIon batteries best you read about them here in this forum before you try anything. (Safety first)
We should be carefull of course to choose the batteries which can use 510 connections
Now the bottle and the wire system. Of course you will find many selections they are wise enough to build wire/wick to a little changable part you can either change them wth new ones or change them yourselves. Anyway you can wash it wait to dry and apply dryburning and reuse them (All these are explained largely on you tube videos)
There are 2 ways you can choose
1- try a cheap device and if it works promote to a serious device
2- this thing workss everyone in the forum could not lie so get a decent device to last longer
For the 1 you should get ego type devices for the 2nd you get an AVP and setle once and for all

The critical point is to choose the liquid it has to comply all your needs best is to visit a vendor to try before you buy or get samplers first. Be carefull to have the nic level higher than you need because you can dilute a high one with Vegetable glyceryn (VG stands for)
but if the nic level is low you would crave for cigarettes.
Suck the vapour to your mouth and inhale later.
So this is all there is to it. Go to it my friend it will be our success

 

[Baditude]

Most beginners want an e-cig that looks like, feels like, and "smokes" like a cigarette. That's understandable, most of us here started out that way, too. But most of us quickly grew tired of batteries that only last 2 - 3 hours per charge and the very limited choice in juice attachments that the "cigalikes" use. Usually after only 1 - 6 weeks use most of us decid to upgrade to a larger size battery like an Ego for more battery time and more options in juice delivery attachments.

It doesn't matter if you decide your first kit will be a cigalike or an Ego, both will get you off the cigarettes, but it will be easier to do if you start with the Ego and cheaper in the long run, too.

Advancing Up the Vaping Ladder with Ego's & Mods

A Good Starter Setup for a Beginning Vapor

Proper Terminology: Is it a carto, a tank, or what?

 

[Dave379]

I've only been vaping for a couple of months and like most I started out on the cigalikes and then I decided to try out an Ego type battery. I went with the Vision Spinner 1300 along with a Kanger mini protank II and I really like it but I have to admit that I still like my cigalikes and I really don't see that changing. I like to use my Vision Spinner when I'm at home but to me its just too big to carry around at work and when I'm out and about plus it would just be a matter of time until I broke the glass tank, but that's just my opinion. It would be a lot more practical if you have an office job that allows you to vape though. When you attach a Kanger protank to the Vision Spinner it measures in at 7" long and is 5/8" around. The small cigalike battery's are a pain because they only last for 2-3 hours depending on how heavy you vape but if you decide to start out with the cigalikes I would highly recommend going with a company that offers a portable charger. When I leave for work I have 3 fully charged battery's and when the first one dies I just pop it into the portable charger and break out one of the charged ones. It only takes about an hour to charge up one of the battery's in the portable charger. It also helps to find a good blank cartridge if you're planning on refilling your carts, which I would highly recommend. The pre-filled carts are just way to expensive. I'm using the KR808D-1 type of cigalike battery's and I really like the blank carts that "Revolution Vapor" puts out. The vapor production is a lot better than the other carts that I tried out and their prices are very good. They're only $19.95 for 20 carts. I always buy 40 when I place an order because shipping is free on orders over $30. You can always pull up a discount code also which will save you a few bucks. Every one has their own preferences and which ever way you decide to go it will be a win win situation over tobacco. I would also recommend trying some other flavors besides tobacco. Variety is a huge key for me at least. I hope this helps and good luck to you.

 

[Chrissie]

Hello & welcome Bracken

I'm also in the UK BTW

Vape Escape that pufZeppelin linked to, is an excellent UK vendor, if you do decide to buy from them, use discount code allabout for 10% off.

To try out different e-liquids, have a look at Joose-Juice - only £1.49 for their 10ml taster bottles & BOGOF on their 30ml bottles -
Shop Home - Items - Joose Juice E-Liquids

And here is a list of other good UK e-cig & e-liquid sellers including some discount codes -
http://allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/1148/cigarette-liquid-vendors-discount-codes

 

[cloudcity]

All of the information can be overwhelming on here!

I would suggest one of 2 ways to go, since there seems to (more often than not) be one of 2 dilemmas that new vapers trying to quit face...

1. Do you want a "cigarette style" e-cig to start?

(many people prefer to start with a cigarette sized e-cig to start out with since it can be a little awkward that first month or 2 you begin walking around with a cigar sized e-cigarette - which IS a totally valid concern ... whatever gets you away from cigarettes and onto the next step is MOST important!)

2. Do you just want to up and quit and could care less about size so long as you quit?

(This can sometimes eliminate a little bit of money spent, eliminating small "cig-a-like" sized e-cigs that can be unsuccessful for some - NOT all since people have different preferences when they quit - honestly, most people begin their journey with what we call a "cig-a-like." And again, I don't think anyone would argue that - whatever gets you away from cigarettes is ALL that matters...)

People will try and steer you in a million & 10 ways suggesting this or that device, and why it is superior, or how much money you will save ... The ONLY thing that matters is to stop smoking.

Don't worry about one thing being better than another! Just make the switch and the rest will follow when you're ready to take your next step...

So I will suggest 2 e-cigs.

One that is geared toward someone who prefers to start with a cigarette sized device, and the other one if you prefer to just go "all in" and get right onto a larger, more cigar sized device.

1. The Joyetech "eRoll"
(I personally think this thing is fantastic even though I also use much larger devices - as the review says, it really does perform like much bigger and much more expensive devices and truly surprised me when I got mine.)

2. The EVOD starter kit Kanger EVOD Starter Kit - Avid Vaper
(You should be able to find these easily in the UK as well… The short version is this … it's incredibly low fuss. You can fill it and take it with you anywhere without any leaking and it performs well, and consistently. The flavor isn't great with these, but that's something you can always work toward later if you make quitting your first goal….)

I'd personally recommend getting a small bottle of both 18 and 24 mg juice. Juice is cheap enough where you might as well find the strength that helps you take that 1st curial step which is to just get off cigarettes… If the 24 mg is too strong you can always get another lower strength bottle of the same juice to dilute it, but if you do wind up getting strong cravings, the 24 mg will kill those cravings straight away!

Best of luck, and don't drive yourself mad trying to devour all the over-stimulation here!

Cheers from across the pond!

 

[Bracken]

Thanks Guys -appriciate all your help. from someone who only recently decided to quit smoking "real" cigs this forum has helped me no end.

However still a bit confused as to what to buy. What I need is a steer to good website -I am in UK and Chrissie has mentioned Vape escape -which I am happy to go with -however i am still confused as to what to actaully buy. I would prefer a kit as opposed to buying bits seperately -Is the Esmart kit ok? Esmart Kit [VE530] - £29.95 : Vape Escape

All I really need is that push in right direction.

Starting to believe this may actaully work, and they are not just a gimmick

 

[Chrissie]

If i was you bracken, I'd go for a kit with a higher mAh rating & that also has an ego thread. It looks to me that Esmart only has a 510 thread.

The higher the mAh of the battery, the longer it lasts between recharges. And a battery that has an ego fitting will mean you can try so many other clearomisers/cartomisers & tanks with it.

Have a look at their Riva kit -

Vape Escape Riva 1100 Deluxe Kit [VE151] - £34.95 : Vape Escape

And they so aren't gimmicks - I used to smoke on average 50 a day & I'd tried everything else to either cut down or give up.

 

[Bracken]

Thanks Chrissie - I'll go for that one. Any tips on what liquid to buy? -joytech e-liquid, 30ml bottle, 10 ml bottle, liqua???? I think 18mg should be ok for me. How long can I expect say 10ml to last?

The main thing I need to get past is the routine with a cigarette ie the walking outside, lighting up and timing of a cigarette, the whole process if you know what I mean

 

[azzaman]

Mate, skip all the bs. And save yourself some coin. Otherwise you will end up full circle and back at this same point.

Reo grand and rm2

Check out the reo subforum and have a look around. If you don't like it fair enough. But money invested now will save you later. Come over and join us. Any questions and they will be answered.

Reos Mods

 

[Chrissie]

Thanks Chrissie - I'll go for that one. Any tips on what liquid to buy? -joytech e-liquid, 30ml bottle, 10 ml bottle, liqua???? I think 18mg should be ok for me. How long can I expect say 10ml to last?

The main thing I need to get past is the routine with a cigarette ie the walking outside, lighting up and timing of a cigarette, the whole process if you know what I mean

The Grizwald samplers are a good bet to go for to begin with (really good juices as well) & yes I think you should be OK at 18mg as compared to me, you are a relatively light smoker -

Grizwald's 5ml Samplers [VE292] - £2.79 : Vape Escape

Do also have a look at Joose-Juice's their 10ml tasters are a bargain (& again really good juices) @ only £1.49 & really cheap P&P as well -
10ml Tasters - Items - Joose Juice E-Liquids

You will most likely find you will need to vape for longer than what it takes to smoke a real ciggie, but don't worry about that.

 

[DKP#]

To be a Non-smoker.............now how cool would that be.

This really made me smile. It hasn't been that long for me since being a non-smoker seemed as likely as winning the lottery. I had a Pack-a-day habit in the 8th grade back around 1980.

There's so much stuff to choose from, in such a price range, it can be overwhelming, especially with so many varying opinions. Here's mine.

Cigalikes - these didn't work for me. I managed to cut my smoking in half and eventually gave up on them.

MINIMUM: ($30 or so)
One 650mAH Brand battery (joye, vision, Evod?)
A couple CE5 atomizers with low ohms (1.8 - 2.2)
USB charger
This will get you started and even if you upgrade, The small battery will come in handy sometimes.


BETTER - I quit smoking here
Add a second 650mAH battery and better atomizer. My personal recommendation is the Vision vivi nova.(1.8 - 2.2 ohms)

EVEN BETTER:
Make your second battery a VV (variable voltage) Joyetech twist or Vision spinner. 1000 mAH or better.

NOW WERE TALKING: (~$75) I'd start here
2 1000mAH or better twist or spinner
Vivi nova mini (One I use) or Evod (commonly recommended, I haven't tried it) and spare "heads"
USB charger
wall adapter for the charger (faster charging)

LETS GET SERIOUS:
kangor protank (highly recommended, I haven't tried it.)
Vamo V3 or itaste SVD battery "holder" these have a digital display, ohm meter, VV and VW (variable wattage).
I just ordered the SVD from fasttech. A low cost supplier. Some quality issues there and long shipping times. I wouldn't start here, make sure you're first e-cig experience is a good one without added frustrations.

HIGH END STUFF:
I wouldn't start here

The point is that you can start small and add stuff in the future while still using the stuff you've already got. Once you know for sure e-cigs are going to work for you, It seems like an investment with the money you save from not smoking. I started with a $120 investment. Ego-c kit(unnecessarily expensive in retrospect) and diy e-liquid stuff. That's only a month's worth of smoking. Figured if I could at least cut my smoking in half for 2 months, I'd break even. Now I'm a NON-SMOKER. Still feels good to say that.

 

[stefferrknee]

I started with a mini eGo battery and and EVOD tank. I'm not a heavy smoker, so the smaller battery was perfect for me. The tank is easy to use, as a beginner. If you smoke more than a few analogs a day I would go I for a bigger battery.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk now Free

 

[pufZeppelin]

Thanks Guys -appriciate all your help. from someone who only recently decided to quit smoking "real" cigs this forum has helped me no end.

However still a bit confused as to what to buy. What I need is a steer to good website -I am in UK and Chrissie has mentioned Vape escape -which I am happy to go with -however i am still confused as to what to actaully buy. I would prefer a kit as opposed to buying bits seperately
-Is the Esmart kit ok?
All I really need is that push in right direction.
Starting to believe this may actaully work, and they are not just a gimmick

If i was you bracken, I'd go for a kit with a higher mAh rating & that also has an ego thread. It looks to me that Esmart only has a 510 thread.

The higher the mAh of the battery, the longer it lasts between recharges. And a battery that has an ego fitting will mean you can try so many other clearomisers/cartomisers & tanks with it.



And they so aren't gimmicks - I used to smoke on average 50 a day & I'd tried everything else to either cut down or give up.

↑ same here - after 40+yrs of heavy smoking, Vaping made it so I could stop (I'm a believer) ↑


Hey Bracken,

KANGER EVOD STARTER KIT - EVOD 650 Kit [VE504] - £39.95 : Vape Escape

I don't think Chrissee would lead you astray,
but this kit is about same price and known high quality...

it is also a complete kit (2 pc) with battery charger
it is designed to be a 'rebuildable' kit (comes with 5 extra coils)

the 'RIVA' kit has bigger battery but who makes them, and
all the tanks are throw-aways...

I just know this kit is quality, will work and all you do is Vape
then you just enjoy, NOT SMOKE, and learn Vaping
then you can think about your next step (if any) or just be content with it
but most of us go hobby and keep buying stuff...

Good Luck

 

[Recycled Roadkill]

I thought the Kangar EVOD was an excellent buy. About 50 bucks for the starter kit but the 650 mAH battery fell just a bit short for me. I've ordered but have yet to receive 2 additional 1000 mAH batteries that should allow me to have enough battery power to take with me so I don't fall short when I'm away from the house. I'm sure I'll be tempted to go back to the analog if I can't vape and, as I've mentioned before, I have NO willpower at all.

 

[OlDogNewTricks]

Hello and welcome! Nice to meet you. You've found a terrific resource and support system here. Get what you can afford, don't go crazy. A couple of simple stick-style, variable voltage batteries and a good tank system with replaceable heads is more than enough to start. I started with 2 1100mAh Smoktech twists and a Protank 2. Get spare heads and a few different juices that sound good to you. A good shop should let you try before you buy. Good luck and have fun!

 

[pufZeppelin]

I thought the Kangar EVOD was an excellent buy. About 50 bucks for the starter kit but the 650 mAH battery fell just a bit short for me. I've ordered but have yet to receive 2 additional 1000 mAH batteries that should allow me to have enough battery power to take with me so I don't fall short when I'm away from the house. I'm sure I'll be tempted to go back to the analog if I can't vape and, as I've mentioned before, I have NO willpower at all.

hello and welcome to the big forum,

good Vaping will keep you from going back to them `ole stinkies...

to bad you didn't ask before ordering (did you get VV batteries?)

if not, that will be what you will desire next I bet
- Vision Spinner 1300mah - Blue

but those evod kits are great , huh !

Vape Happy