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Newbie, any suggestions on starter devices?

Discussion in 'New Members Forum' started by BGaulding, Oct 4, 2013.

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  1. BGaulding

    BGaulding Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 3, 2013
    Virginia, USA
    Tomorrow makes 1 month since I quit analogs. With the help of a friend, I began using the Tornado Tank from Totally Wicked. I absolutely love it, all the flavors, & I'm hooked. I'm using about 3-4 of the 1.1ml cartridges a day. I understand that I can get a bigger cartridge, but id prefer to try new PV's that don't break the bank! Because there are so many different ones out there, I feel as if my head is about to explode. :unsure: Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
     
  2. TruckDrivinMama

    TruckDrivinMama Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 18, 2013
    CA, USA
    Congrats B and welcome!
    I have the innokin MVP and bought it for $50. It works wonders having variable voltage, any 510 or eGo threaded toppers fit, 2600mAh that lasts me for days, an output socket to charge my phone and ipad, etc. Many praises for this device on here too.
     
  3. The Tide

    The Tide Full Member

    Nov 13, 2012
    Norfolk, VA
    Go to FastTech and pick up an Innokin SVD or an MVP for 37 - 45 bucks. Cheapest prices and great mods. Vape on!
     
  4. Hillargh

    Hillargh Full Member Verified Member

    Sep 27, 2013
    Temple, GA
    Semi-hijack, but are these effected by the law change in China? I know batteries can't be ordered from FT at all anymore, but beyond that I've yet to figure out what all it includes.
     
  5. suspectK

    suspectK Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 7, 2013
    Alabummer
    I have their vape-pro..I love it.

    itaste 3.0, MVP, SVD..smoktek SID, zmax(I can't figure out if the vape-pro or it is the 'clone,' but it's a little heavier and fatter. They have a mini which is sweet.) Vamo..
     
  6. shynsly

    shynsly Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 3, 2013
    Chicago
    try a vamo, VV/VW, Ohm meter....cant beat them for the price.

    Congrats and Good Luck on Your New Adventure!!! :toast:
     
  7. Arnie H

    Arnie H Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 25, 2013
    Greensboro, NC, USA
    Vamo is great. Welcome.
     
  8. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    Innokin_iTaste_MVP.jpg [​IMG]

    +1 Innokin iTaste MVP: Affordable, 3 day rechargeable built-in battery, usb charging cord and clearomizer included in kit, accepts any juice attachment (ego or 510).
     
  9. tobacco-kills

    tobacco-kills Full Member

    If I were you id get an ego winder from smoke tech and put a manger pro tank on it. Its a variable voltage for beginners. The manger pro tank is great its made of pyrex glass so it won't be breaking all the time, just make sure too get some replacement coils which are pretty cheap. If you want a step above that but wanna keep it simple get a k100 with a rebuildable atomizer, maybe the igo-w RBA. Nothing compares to taste when you get to rebuildables. The rebuildable atomizers last long quality wise but you have got to rebuild every 2-3 weeks depending on how much you vape. All you have to do it watch one youtube video on how to rebuild IGO-w and your set its easy as heck and will cost you about 10 bucks a year rebuilding it your self. this is the same set up i use its great!
     
  10. tobacco-kills

    tobacco-kills Full Member

    New law change in china? I havnt heard of this what happened?
     
  11. unknown_shooter

    unknown_shooter Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 13, 2013
    Phoenix AZ
    there isnt a "law change", some orders with batteries in them got returned to fasttech (by china's customs, not ours) & others have been delayed.

    fwiw, i just got some juice that shipped after this started & the juice was wrapped in tinfoil! (trying to beat the xrays?!)..
     
  12. Bill's Magic Vapor

    Bill's Magic Vapor Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 8, 2013
    USA
    You're going to get a lot of personal opinions based on your question. I think you need to narrow it down a bit. Here's some questions and options to consider:

    1. Do you want a stick battery (form factor) or a larger PV/APV, i.e., like an ego battery (iTaste 3.0, KGo, Twist, Spinner, Winder, etc.)?
    2. Do you want a tube type battery or a box mod type battery? This is strictly personal preference as you can find similar performance and characteristics with both types.
    3. At a minimum, I think you need at least variable voltage and an Ohm meter for your device. Without them, you're practically defunct before you start.
    4. What is your budget, or budget range? Recommend that you get the best device for the money/budget. There's some great values out there. For example, the Vamo has practically all the features you could want in any APV, and it costs only $30 - 35 (recommend the stainless - a bit more) as an express kit, and about $50 - 58 as a kit with batteries and charger.
    5. Do you want to be able to use different battery configurations, i.e., 18350, 18500, or 18650?
    6. Do you want the device to telescope (to accommodate different battery configurations)?
    7. Do you want variable wattage?
    8. Do you want replaceable/rechargeable batteries, i.e., separate batteries, not built in batteries?
    9. Do you want USB charging?
    10. What kind of battery life are you looking for?
    11. Do you want ego threading and 510 threading, or just 510 threading (there are other, less popular configurations available)?
    12. What kind of topper are you using, or going to use? Clearomizer, Cartomizer/Carto Tank, Dripper (RDA), or RBA? What have you used so far?
    13. What kind of juice are you using? Not a big determining factor early on, but it can affect choices in some cases.
    14. What is your vaping experience and knowledge so far?
    15. Do you want a kit (often less expensive), or do you want to piece it together (allowing optimum selections for each piece and often costing a bit more)?
    16. Whatever you would like to add....

    There is a typical sequence and evolution on setups that we see here all time. It is not cast in stone by a long shot, and the sequence is certainly not sacrosanct, and I include this more or less to show an example of several of the more common evolutions seen on the Forum every day:

    Batteries:

    Cigalike => Fixed Voltage Stick Battery (Ego-T) => Variable Voltage Stick Battery (Ego-C) => APV Stick Battery (iTaste 3.0) => Entry Level APV (Vamo is perhaps the best "value" entry level APV) => More Advanced APV (SVD, MVP 2.0, Sigelei V3/V5, SID, etc. - great variety in the $35 - 80 price range, and lots of options) => Very Advanced APV (eVic, etc.) => Most Advanced APV's (Provari, Semovar, REO Box Mod,etc.) => Mechanicals (can be anywhere on the timeline and learning curve, huge variety, huge price range, lots of clones now available)

    Toppers:

    Dripping Atomizers (huge variety) => Most Basic Clearo (CE#) => Top Coil Clearomizer (Kanger T2, Vivi Nova, etc.) => Bottom Coil Clearomizer (EVOD, Protank II, etc. - very popular on the Forum) => Cartomizer (Boges, Smok, Ikenvape, etc.) => Carto Tank (SIBTanked, Phiniac, etc.) => Drippers (Igo-L, HH357, Origen, and countless others - huge variety and huge price range - aka RDA's) => Rebuildable Atomizers (Gennies, Kayfun's, Ithaka, their clones - huge variety and huge price range, lots of clones now available), etc.

    These "timelines" and evolutionary possibilities represent examples only, but I'm including them here to give you some idea of the options, the learning curve, the variety, and the type of upgrade decisions that we see here every day. There is no one way, some people never upgrade, some people start at the top, high-end gear, etc. Anyway, my two cents. The more information you give us, the better we can help you in your VapeQuest and GearQuest. Truthfully, gear selection can be far easier than juice selection (JuiceQuest). Juice variables can include:

    1. Nicotine level (0 - 36 mg/ml)
    2. Ratio of PG to VG (PG/VG ratio - generally VG is thicker and provide more vapor, PG is thinner and provide more flavor and throat hit). Popular ratios include 50/50 - 80/20 PG/VG, but all configurations can be found)
    3. Flavor - completely subjective. Three options:
    a. Sampler Packs
    b. Brick and Mortar Juice Bars
    c. DIY (less expensive juice cost, expensive start up cost. Need good recipes and juice calculator. More an art than a science. Lots of YouTube videos on DIY. Care must be taken always when working with nicotine.

    Anyway, my two cents. Good luck on your Journey. Hope we can narrow it down once some of the questions are answered. I started with the cigalike in 2009 and now vape with Provari's and carto tanks, samovar and kayfun. Vaped for months using clearos like the evods and Protanks. Protank II may be the best clearo, imho. Sigelei V5 may be the best under $100 APV, imho. YMMV and gear is more subjective than certain. Focus on features and budget, and it's fairly easy to narrow down. Best to you and Happy Shopping! Power up and Vape On!
     
  13. Hillargh

    Hillargh Full Member Verified Member

    Sep 27, 2013
    Temple, GA
    I was under the impression the issue was with international hazardous material regulations (i.e. laws, service-specific regulations, etc.) that have been being updated/changed this year, and China exports. I'm sure I could be mistaken, but I do know for a fact that many international shipping regulations regarding hazardous materials have been updated in 2013, and I would imagine the process for following those regulations has changed in various ways as well.
     
  14. danca90

    danca90 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 11, 2013
    Zagreb, Croatia
    What do you think you are looking for? Ego's are probably a good step.
     
  15. Ch!pDasRipp3r

    Ch!pDasRipp3r Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 4, 2013
    Pennsylvania
    I just ordered a Vamo V3! After weeks of research, I'm extremely excited.
    I also use a vivi nova 3.5ml tank. Comes with 1.8, 2.4, and 2.8ohm rebuildable heads.
    IMHO, vivi nova are the best tanks and clearos for the money!


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  16. Ch!pDasRipp3r

    Ch!pDasRipp3r Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 4, 2013
    Pennsylvania
    Check out vistavapors.com
    Grabbed a two pack deal there, 900mah with vivi nova clearos for $35.
    Amazing quality too.


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  17. webghost

    webghost Full Member Verified Member

    Sep 25, 2013
    Jacksonville, AL., USA
    Innokin SVD w/ Protank II great combo!
     
  18. Ch!pDasRipp3r

    Ch!pDasRipp3r Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 4, 2013
    Pennsylvania
    Just had someone recommend an iTaste VV to me as well.
    Good step up for variable voltage cause it recommends a voltage for you based on the resistance of the head you attach.
    Could be really good for someone starting out!


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  19. Ch!pDasRipp3r

    Ch!pDasRipp3r Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 4, 2013
    Pennsylvania
    You're two cents has to be worth like $43 and some change! Haha


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  20. mgmixology

    mgmixology Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Apr 29, 2013
    Bellevue, NE
    ^ that there Itaste is a quality purchase.
     
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