newbie close to 1st purchase

[MikeE3]

This is a very good forum, but I probably don't have to tell 'you' that. I've picked up a lot of useful info browsing and searching ECF.

My wife and I are about to purchase our 1st e-cigs. She's looking into 2 piece models and I'm looking at 3 piece models. We figure not knowing anyone who uses e-cigs to talk to, she'd try one type and I'd try the other.

1st post done - Now I'm on my way to 5 posts, so I can join a thread in a different forum that interests me a bunch.

 

[BardicDruid]

Stick with the suppliers listed on the forum and you won't get screwed, you may also want to read through "The Wonderful World of vaping" in the ECF Library, it'll help you a lot in making an informed decision.

 

[Mindfield]

Hello and welcome! Any idea what models you two are eyeballing?

 

[bjannr]

Welcome. You and your wife picked the best forum available.

 

[Sedateme]

Sounds like you've done a little research. I'd recommend a kr808 for a 2-piece (go for the Volt) and a 501 for a 3-piece (recommend the eGo). You will be pleased with either, but they do both perform a little differently.

 

[MikeE3]

With the help of 'search this forum' - yep, we're looking at KR808D-1's for a two piece and the Joye 501 for the three piece (though, I'm leaning to the 501, the Joye eGo is still a contender).

My wife initially, started looking at the V2 from V2Cigs but I learned quickly the kr808;s are better priced for the basic and or more complete kits

 

[the_vape_nerd]

I would definitely read through the wonderful world of vaping guide, it's a must read. You don't have to read all of it. You could probably skip the mods part for now as you are a beginner.

If I were you, I'd get a Kr808 kit. These are incredibly reliable and have the look of a standard cig. They are extremely easy to use and a good place to start learning the ins and outs of refilling, battery care, adjustments etc. The only downside here is the short battery life. You'll need to rotate these in and out of the charger every few hours or so.

If you are also buying another kit, get a Fat Battery model. An e-power, an ego, etc. These can pretty much go all day without the need to recharge. You might also want to get yourself a 808/510 adapter and a 510/808 adapter (about 3 bucks each), this will let you switch cartomizers with the wife and make both devices compatible for the other's cartomizers.

 

[dormouse]

100mah is about 1 hour of moderate vaping

For slim minis the most popular and well supported 3-piece is Joye 510 manual 180mah and it's longer length Joye 510 mega xl manual 280mah. Just don't buy anything but Joye because there are some clones you do not want to have. 3-piece w/ few prefilled cartomizers but plenty of types of blanks (cartomizers are the way most people prefer to vape their favorite thinner juices). The manual has a fully sealed metal threaded end so it is safe from carto leaks and fine for dripping with a drip tip. Ditto for the fat battery 510's (650mah+) Ego and its popular clone the Riva 510 from Liberty-Flights.com (because that shop has the latest Riva's for the manufacturer that makes the new higher voltage model). The fat battery models provide longer charge as well as the option of using hotter parts called low resistance (LR). For Egos, only buy Joye because again, there are some bad clones. Exception - The Riva 510 at LF is a good clone.


2-piece - the most popular and well-supported is KR808D-1. I recommend the standard aka 78mm batteries (280-320mah) over the shorty (180-220mah). The original manufacturer model and Vapor4Life manuals have a good sized button and are mostly sealed on the threaded end. The alternate model SmokelessImage Volt, Halocigs G6, Bloogplanet MaxxFusion - their manuals have a tiny recessed button (a bit hard to press) and a nice totally sealed threaded end. these also claim the higher mah of those ranges and I know the Volt has a rubberized finish. They can use each other's parts and cartos. For testing juice on a manual you can use a DSE901 standard resistance atomizer and drip tip.

To me, 510 w/ Boge carto has a warm moist vapory hit. Good airflow helps a big hit. The KR808D-1 seems to have slower airflow but a hotter dryer hit with more TH. The same juice on both will give more TH on the KR8. The KR8 has lots of prefilled cartos and the 510 a few (mostly stock Chinese juices) but both need liquid to get reasonable life out of cartomizers.

Most people here use and recommend manuals because we refill things with eliquid. Cartos are most popular and if a carto leaks a bit of juice it will leak right over where an auto battery can be damaged or killed. Manuals also won't turn on accidentally in wind or vibration. And manuals generally make it easier to get a good hit.

 

[swedishfish]

With the help of 'search this forum' - yep, we're looking at KR808D-1's for a two piece and the Joye 501 for the three piece (though, I'm leaning to the 501, the Joye eGo is still a contender).

My wife initially, started looking at the V2 from V2Cigs but I learned quickly the kr808;s are better priced for the basic and or more complete kits

This is a bit misleading regarding two piece and three piece.

Any pv can be a two piece if you use a cartomizer (combo of cart & atomizer) so they 510, ego, kgo, etc. all have the option of being a two piece. Or a three piece. A good thing about the three piece is you can test juice with the atomizer, something a new person usually needs to do before they find the juice you like.

I'd recommend you both get an ego. That way you can use the same charger and cartomizers and it's easy to order parts. Batteries last 8+ hours and you get a good vape. Plus you have more options. Save the extra money you'd have to spend on extra batteries for buying and finding a juice you like.

The 510 mini and KR808 are 'OK'. I like using LR cartomizers and you really can't use them on either of these models. Difference between a LR cartomizer and SR cartomizer are night and day.

 

[MikeE3]

Thanks Dormouse for some of the 'little tips' like which brands have recessed buttons and which don't. I've already decided on manual batts regardless of e-cig model or brand. I've been focused so far on the e-cig itself, haven't done a much homework on cartos for the 510 and/or 808. So that's another good tip from you about more being available for the 808. Though I'm sure it won't take long before I'm buying juice and re-filling myself.

 

[swedishfish]

There really aren't more options with the KR808 because most prefilled cartos taste terrible. So you'll probably be buying juice quickly. And there aren't a lot of ways to test juice on a KR808 without filling up a whole cartomizer with juice.

 

[wv2win]

Good advice from swedishfish. Any model can be a "two piece" model.

If you take to vaping, you will get tired of the inconsistencies and short battery life of the ones you are considering.

I would suggest you look at the better "cousin" of the eGo/Riva model, the E-Power. Much longer lasting (lifetime wise) and better mAh rated (1050) batteries than the eGo/Riva's. Plus much less expensive batteries, around $4 instead of $20 each:

e-Power

e-Power eGo Kits : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

 

[centraltxmedic]

Best of luck to you and welcome to vaping!

 

[MikeE3]

wv2win: the E-Power do look nice along w/ the high mAh batteries. But "geez" why do these reputable vendors confuse newbies like me so much by using eGo in the name of their products when they are not 'true' eGo brands. Some of the descriptions say they are bigger, or wider, or can't use eGo parts but it sure gets confusing knowing whether I'm buying a 'true' eGo or an eGo look alike (even if it's good quality it's not a eGo). At least I'm under the impression (and maybe falsely) that Joye is the maker of the eGo - there just happens to be a lot of eGo look-alikes - some better, some not.

When checking out the website's - even those listed in the vendor section of this forum - I'm never sure what I'm buying - for example - is it an OEM 510 (or eGo) from Joye or someone else's compatible look-alike (for better or worse).

I could sign this reply - 'frustrated in PA' over sellers using some other vendors model name with in the 'name' of their own products.

Seem's with better self control within the industry on naming and describing their products and more accurate description as to is this an OEM model or a compatible model (to say nothing of actual fakes that could be out there) the industry would have a better reputation to grow with the main stream population of analog smokers. I've been doing quite a lot or research and reading over the last week and it's really tough to know what the heck your buying.

Sorry about my rant.

 

[wv2win]

The E-Power is not an eGo. It's in the same model range/category, same volts and just about the same size. But it uses non-proprietary, removeable batteries with a much higher lifetime recharge rate and a higher mAh rating.

It's was made to compete with the eGo and provide a better overall option in that category. Being able to buy batteries at battery specialty stores at one fifth the price is a big advantage. Plus these batteries last 5 times longer.

With all the attys and cartos on the market, just about all of them work on the E-Power. And the E-Power comes in I believe 3 different battery sizes which basically just allows longer times between charges. Here is another well supported supplier of the E-Power:

Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - E-Power

 

[Traedia]

Welcome to the forum. Good luck to you and I hope you are happy with whatever you decide to purchase.

 

[MikeE3]

wv2win - please don't take my last reply wrong. I meant nothing disparaging to E-Power or you. You have been most helpful and indeed the E-Power looks like it should have real consideration in its class of e-cigs. I don't want to come off 'all negative' as a newbie to this site. So, thanks for sharing your knowledge with me, I do appreciate it.

 

[wv2win]

wv2win - please don't take my last reply wrong. I meant nothing disparaging to E-Power or you. You have been most helpful and indeed the E-Power looks like it should have real consideration in its class of e-cigs. I don't want to come off 'all negative' as a newbie to this site. So, thanks for sharing your knowledge with me, I do appreciate it.

No problem. The one site that uses "eGo" in the name is simply doing that as a marketing strategy. It is an eGo/Riva type PV with a better battery.

 

[Snakedocc]

I`m a noob and have an ego, I really like it but I have nothing to compare it too

 

[JohnnyG]

I'm only 5 weeks in, but have read a lot on multiple vaping forum sites, and been to a local vapers meet. It would appear that at some point if you stay with vaping long enough, you'll end up with at least one of everything.
I currently have a mix of KR8 stuff pieced together from multiple vendors. This has been working well for me for daily use. I hope to get a 510 setup with a 306 atomizer to try more liquids without wasting 808 cartomizers.