Newbie here - am I doing something wrong?

[Ragman]

I have had my EVO for almost a week and still run into the same problem.

I drop 6 drops ECOpure into the cart, push the poly down into the juice, pull back up just under the rim and top off with 2 more drops.

I put it back together and vape. Excellent vapor and flavor.

Problem is, after about 20 pulls both vapor and flavor diminish.

So I add 2 more drops to "top off" cart and Im back in business. BUt again I only get about 20 more pulls until I have to repeat.

I pull out the poly this time and the bottom is all soaked in e-juice.

How come this isnt being vaped? What am I doing wrong?

 

[Houdini]

Your not doing anything wrong. This is common with almost all cartridges. The tea bag mod seems to help according to everyone who's done it. I havn't tried it cause I'm just so used to topping off the cartridge like your doing. Search around the mod forum and you will see the tea bag mod. It's called PTB mod.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/cartridge-mods/

 

[Kate51]

The cartridge size is going to be the determining factor on how much liquid it will hold and how many puffs you get per cart.
If you seem to be lacking for puffs, you may want to increase the nicotine content on your e-liquid, and then perhaps be able to cut back on the number of puffs say in an hour that you need.
The liquid that's "left" in the bottom can be attribulted to maybe not prolonging the time of your puff. I don't know the cut-off time built into your battery, but your user's manual should tell you what that is. Count one-one thousand two one-thousand, see if you can prolong your puff up to the cut-off time. And not so close together? Give the liquid time to redistribute itself in the wicking (filler). You need to allow the atomizer sufficient time to heat to it's peak for best performance, you should get better vapor volume and a more satisfying puff. NEVER pull hard, nice, long, gentle puffs! Let the heat of the atomizer pull down more juice from your cart, if you "pull" too hard your puff will pull down too much liquid!
You didn't specify the nicotine content of the juice, i.e., mg/ml. That would be helpful. If you smoked previously, how much did you smoke and which cigarettes. That would help to determine your nicotine requirements.
Hope this helps a bit. As long as the e-cig you're using works well, you've got half the battle won! Nicotine content your next question to answer, for your particular needs.

 

[Ragman]

Using EVO. Used to smoke about half a pack a day of Seneca Ultra Lights. I currently use ECOPure Gold/High (20MG) and I like it. I tried AwesomeVapor Coffee and Marb 18mg and it does nothing for me.

Cutoff on battery is 5 sec. Im wondering tho.. If I pull on it for 1 -2 seconds to "prime" it then let off and immediately pull again.. will I be able to do 5 more sec or just 3? I will have to try in a mirror so I can see the LED.

Practice makes perfect I guess.

 

[Kate51]

Using EVO. Used to smoke about half a pack a day of Seneca Ultra Lights. I currently use ECOPure Gold/High (20MG) and I like it. I tried AwesomeVapor Coffee and Marb 18mg and it does nothing for me.

Cutoff on battery is 5 sec. Im wondering tho.. If I pull on it for 1 -2 seconds to "prime" it then let off and immediately pull again.. will I be able to do 5 more sec or just 3? I will have to try in a mirror so I can see the LED.

Practice makes perfect I guess.

Absolutely practice makes perfect. Sounds like you have a good enough nic density for your needs, so probably is just a matter of puffing....yes, a primer puff, and then a full 5 second, gentle puff for fullest possible vapor and flavor. And more efficient for your cart filler to empty right. This is the biggest things to learn in e-cig use, totally different from smoking a cigarette. When you need a bigger "hit" you would naturally puff harder! So good luck, sounds like a good unit.
Yes, I wish they'd put the LED's on top of the battery, hard to see when they go on! Makes a guy cross-eyed.
I'm using ECOpure also, the best, in my opinion!

 

[Ragman]

Thanks for the inof Kate51. This is really like an addiction. kinda scary how it takes up my time trying to get the perfect vaping experience. Ya know, not knowing if Im doing stuff right, how is it supposed to taste/feel.

But I suppose its better than taking up my time smoking analogs.

Thanks alot everyone.

 

[nubee]

Juice might be too think - sounds like VG based. PG based is thinner.

You could also search/try the straw mod.

It just sounds like you're not getting a good wicking thru the filler material - perhaps packed in too tight.

You could take it all out, rinse it off and dry it well then remove a small amount from length-wise "side" and try that.

Don't give up - try a few things until you find what works best for you.

 

[jj2]

You might try blowing into the cart gently to push the liquid forward.

 

[Houdini]

You might try blowing into the cart gently to push the liquid forward.

That won't work. There is a separate chamber inside the mouthpiece that separates the batting material from the hole in the tip. It has to be like this otherwise the liquid would just flow right into your mouth. When you drag on an ecig the vapor is not actually going through the padding in the mouthpiece then into your mouth. The vapor is created inside the atomizer at the coil and drawn into your mouth through notches in the side of the cartridge between the outer piece and inner piece where the batting is.

 

[ougee]

I have a stupid question probably. When I put e-juice directly on the atomizer, am I supposed to remove the filling material from the cartridge?

 

[Ragman]

I have a stupid question probably. When I put e-juice directly on the atomizer, am I supposed to remove the filling material from the cartridge?

You dont have to but to make sure take you are just vaping whats on the atty you should. Whenever I drip, I always put on a cart with no pad.

But thats just me,

 

[Kate51]

I prefer not to drip, but I use a Janty Stick with an 801 atty. So my large cart makes for just-fine long-time vaping. One of the notes about "blowing" into the cart, I don't recommend that either, as Houdini pointed out, that can just cause problems....I wrecked an expensive battery and atomizer doing that, it forced liquid down into the battery and it shorted out...it went BONKERS!!
Also, Ragman is using ECOpure, that is not thick like generic VG is. In fact, I use the ECOpure Krystal (36mg/ml nic/VG) for DIY mixing, but I cut it to 18mg/ml with generic VG so it doesn't get any thinner for the 801 cart to handle properly. ECOpure is thinner, is an "aqueous" VG. In my opinion the very cleanest VG I've ever tried.
And Ragman, hate to tell you, but this is an addiction! Not just talking nicotine, either, the whole gammut....batteries, atomizers, juices. All the time, something to keep our attention zeroed in on, buy, buy, buy!....but yes, 1000 X better than smoking. We're just finding out how the BIG Tobacco industry has fooled us all this time, especially people who went with "low tar, low nicotine, low" everything...except for the LONG list of chemicals added in which made all of those lows very misleading. Turned out to be even more addicting, even more hazardous. I also just read a report, out of New Zealand, home of the Ruyan Co. Testing projects, that RYO tobaccos were even more addictive than a regular manufactured cigarette. WHA? I fell for that. No wonder I was smoking so much, 2-3 packs a day, nearly killed me!
Good for you to find a very good Cigarette Replacement Therapy!!

 

[Ragman]

I also just read a report, out of New Zealand, home of the Ruyan Co. Testing projects, that RYO tobaccos were even more addictive than a regular manufactured cigarette. WHA? I fell for that. No wonder I was smoking so much, 2-3 packs a day, nearly killed me!
Good for you to find a very good Cigarette Replacement Therapy!!

What the heck is a RYO?

 

[Houdini]

What the heck is a RYO?

Roll Your Own.

 

[Ragman]

LOL ha ha. shouldve known..

 

[Porphy]

One of the notes about "blowing" into the cart, I don't recommend that either, as Houdini pointed out, that can just cause problems

Yes blowing into the cart can mess an atty up or worse get fluid into your battery if it's not sealed. You will from time to time hear people recommending "blowing the atty out" which is a way of getting excess fluid out of an atomizer. For this you remove the atomizer from the battery and blow through the atomizer from the battery end (connection end) with a towel or napkin to catch the excess fluid on the cartridge end.

This is only a method for cleaning an atty or "de-flooding" an atty. Your issue (OP's) seems to be that you want more "up time" with your vapor. The best solutions I've found for this have already been mentioned: different filler (PTB works best IMO) and bigger cart.

When you top off you'll always have residual liquid left in the filler usually towards the bottom. At some point the air flow through the filler material from a drag won't produce enough pressure to grab the liquid from the fibers. When the filler is full there is a lot of resistance and liquid wicks easily once you get down to the dregs there is more space for the air to flow freely and it will by pass the small amount of liquid left. Different filler material, especially the PTB, helps alleviate this symptom somewhat but even with PTB some liquid will be left in the material.