RDA Newbie questions about Zipper/Clapton coil...etc...

[piggypinggy]

Newbie questions about Zipper/Clapton coil...etc...
Hi guys, I've been building with nickel wire for about 2months. I am kind of new to rebuild, so all I have done is just standard build.
Recently I see so many people build in different ways like Zipper/Clapton/Diamond coil...etc...
what's the difference between these coils? Since I don't have a power drill have home, I am wondering is it worth to buy one for building these coild?? because that's not cheap LOL thanks
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[cjs71988]

not quite sure what you mean by "the difference" between them.. mostly they are built for aesthetics. they will most likely come out sub-ohm. if you plan on trying your hand at building intricate coils, a drill if preferable. hope this helps.

 

[ObsceneJesster]

Twisted,Clapton and Zipper builds do a couple things that some people like. They will add flavor due to the increased surface area and more juice becomes trapped on the coil. They also slow down the ramp up time which decreases dry hits and allows more juice to wick before the coils get to hot.

They aren't just for looks but they also aren't worth my time.

 

[snow blind]

In my experience it's just aesthetics for the most part. Some will swear up and down that a twisted, or some other multi wire build of equal resistance, diameter and close to the same surface area will be muh different... But I've not found that to be the case in the "normal" 10-75 watt range.

Now... If your gaping very high wattages multi cool builds can be advantageous to an extent over say 22 or 20 gauge. But I don't enjoy vaping at 76-150 watts.

 

[pls0138]

To me, there are definitely advantages in using twisted wire vs lower gauge single wire with a similar build resistance.
-Thinner wire produces a different flavor than thicker wire (a little crisper IMO) and by twisting it you get the lower resistance and greater surface area while still getting the flavor of the thinner wire.
-Thinner wire heats up faster. If I do the two similar builds one with twisted high gauge wire and the other with single low gauge wire, I find that I get a fuller more flavorful, satisfying vape out of the twisted wire at lower wattages.
-The grooves in twisted wire traps juice, which basically gives your coil a sort of self-wicking mechanism. The flavor of the vapor from the juice trapped in the wires is different that the vapor produced for the juice on your wick, adds a whole other element IMO.

I agree that twisting wire yourself is a pain, I did it for a while and decided to switch to lower gauge single wire because I didn't want to deal with the hassle.
Then I came across spools of "factory spun" twisted for Youde Tech (http://www.yourcig.com/category/kanthal-coil.html) and it brought me back to the world of twisted wire and I'm so glad I did. I've always preferred single coil builds for there ease of build and consistency, by using twisted wire I feel like I am getting the warmer, denser, more flavorful vape of a dual coil in single coil form (plus the benefits stated above of course).

If you are interested in twisted wire I suggest looking into these "roll coils." Vapenw sells them (Wick & Wire - Rebuildable) and I've also seen and bought some on ebay as well. Best way to find out the difference is to try it yourself and with the Youde wire, you don't have to go through the hassle of getting a drill and doing it yourself.
Good Luck!

 

[Clay333]

I have made nearly every one of the fancy coils. I enjoy tinkering and making them, but honestly I usually pull them out an place a standard 24 or 26 gauge micro coil in their place shortly after. The only one of all of them that I actually found made the vape better was a Interlock coil. That thing makes some insane clouds on my Cigreen X at 150w and actually keeps up with wicking. Since you said you build with nickel wire I don't think it is advisable to do anything other than Standard coils.

 

[Sloth Tonight]

I've never done a clapton or anything fancy, and never will - that said, I have a very high deal of respect for those who make these coils. They're an art form IMO, though they're not just for looks I'm sure (pls0138 wrote an excellent post above). Me, I have too many other hobbies to tinker that much with building. But I do twist wire for 9 out of 10 builds. In my experience, the flavor increases significantly with twisted wire. I prefer twisted 30 or 29g over, say, standard 26. Using a tool like the tesla twist makes twisting simple, fast and fool proof. Just throwing it out there.

Soignee will be along soon to tell you all about claptons and caterpillars. He is a twisted nut

 

[Pensilac]

I personally don't bother with the large fancy coils and stick with single wire or simple twisted coils. For the more complicated twisted coils people are making I would say it is necessary to have a drill but if you're just twisting the same gauge a few times you don't need one. I use a pen via the method in this video and have never had any issues. It does take a few minutes though.....