Newbie questions...

[PGVG]

Specifically, can you use a drip tip with a JoyE510?

What is better, a manual switch or an auto-switch? (for actuating the atty) Or, is this just a matter of personal choice?

Is a more powerful battery (MaH = Milliamp Hours) better for vapor production, or is this more for longevity (life of a battery charge). In other words, does a battery's power determine the amount of vapor?

Can somebody post a list of reputable suppliers other than Wordup (that's all I can find).

 

[Rudforce]

1) Yes

2) Manual, though it really is a personal choice (my wife hates manual batts, I hate autos)

3) Yes, sort of, but more longevity than vapor (think of mah as "gas tank size"). Higher mah lets you use low resistance atomizers without killing the batt too fast which can result in more vapor.

4) Forum Suppliers

 

[Rosa]

Hi! Here's my opinion/best guess:

Specifically, can you use a drip tip with a JoyE510? yes, and it's wonderful! Make sure you get the kind that fits the 510 though.

What is better, a manual switch or an auto-switch? (for actuating the atty) Or, is this just a matter of personal choice? it's personal choice, but 75% of vapers prefer the manual.

Is a more powerful battery (MaH = Milliamp Hours) better for vapor production, or is this more for longevity (life of a battery charge). In other words, does a battery's power determine the amount of vapor? I THINK the mAh is for batteries lasting longer between charges and the volts is for more power or something. ....anyone?

Can somebody post a list of reputable suppliers other than Wordup (that's all I can find). yes, see the ECF recommended providers list below. The general consensus is that cignot has the best service.

Forum Suppliers

and here are the 'secret' coupon codes for different vendors:
Electronic Cigarette Coupon Code Master List - Electronic Cigarette Forum

 

[Liv2Ski]

While you can drip with an auto battery it is not wise. Go with the manual. An auto can get juice in it and kit the batt

 

[banjo]

Do not drip with an auto style battery. It is not sealed like the manual battery. It has a hole in it, and if it gets a load of juice, you can ruin it. Manual batteries are generally considered better because auto batteries can be triggered without your input, and they can turn themselves off while you are taking a drag. The larger capacity batteries, such as those on the eGO, which can be 650, 900, 1000, or 1300 mAH will with most regular attys produce more vapor because the attys tend to burn a bit hotter. You can also use LR (low resistance) 510 attys with the larger eGO batteries which absolutely burn quite a bit hotter and do provide a lot more vapor and throat hit. I only buy from suppliers that are members of ECF, and I've never had a bad experience. Good luck to you on your new adventure in the world of vaping, and welcome to ECF, a wonderful place to get great support and valuable information. Also, use the links that Rosa (above post) provided you.

 

[PGVG]

I have tried THREE kinds, Auto & Manual. One auto (dse901) has a hole in it from the atty asmbly to the battery. The other 3 piece auto has holes in it (from the atty to the battery). The manual, a V2, has holes in it also, from the cartomizer to the battery. I have never seen a 2 piece or 3 piece ecig that did NOT have holes in them (to the battery). What models DO NOT have holes in them?

 

[PGVG]

Hi! Here's my opinion/best guess:



Forum Suppliers

and here are the 'secret' coupon codes for different vendors:
Electronic Cigarette Coupon Code Master List - Electronic Cigarette Forum

That is QUITE a list of suppliers! Any way of narrowing them down, say, by from best value to least? Or something like that.

 

[PGVG]

So, you can use 510 LR (low resistance) attys with the larger eGO batteries?
And are ALL 510 attys Low Resistance? I just looked at say, Cignot and they have FOUR (4) different kinds of 510 attys. What's WHAT?

 

[Icoth]

Attys come in low, regular and high resistances. Low resistance attys are like vaping at a higher voltage, more and hotter vapor and throat hit. You should only use them on higher mAh batteries. They put too much of a strain on lower capacity batteries. Regular resistance attys are, ummm, regular. High resistance attys are for high voltage battery mods and help to tame the heat and throat hit of high voltage. Some refer to watts as a better way to evaluate how hot your rig is running. watts = v x 2 / resistance. You don't need to worry about this stuff right now. Just get a regular resistance atty and try LR or a battery mod down the road.

 

[Icoth]

Sorry that's a typo it is watts = v*v/resistance was thinking v squared and typed *2

 

[PGVG]

How come the 510 passthru looks like it has a battery in between the USB plug and the device? Is this USB power charging the battery which in turn powers the device?
Are there 510 passthrus that do NOT have this battery pack between the USB plug and the device?

 

[PGVG]

Attys come in low, regular and high resistances. Low resistance attys are like vaping at a higher voltage, more and hotter vapor and throat hit. You should only use them on higher mAh batteries. They put too much of a strain on lower capacity batteries. Regular resistance attys are, ummm, regular. High resistance attys are for high voltage battery mods and help to tame the heat and throat hit of high voltage. Some refer to watts as a better way to evaluate how hot your rig is running. watts = v x 2 / resistance. You don't need to worry about this stuff right now. Just get a regular resistance atty and try LR or a battery mod down the road.

My problem and experience has been that the atty does not get hot enough and the battery only lasts for ONE cig's worth of hits. Does that mean that my atty may be a HR atty and my battery is a low MaH battery?

 

[Lisa B]

If you are ordering from cignot I would suggest getting the 3 / $25, is a good deal and they are reg attys and will work in a 510 or a eGo

What cig are you using?

 

[PGVG]

Sorry that's a typo it is watts = v*v/resistance was thinking v squared and typed *2

Resistance is measured in Ohms. To get the watts (which I have NOT seen in ads YET, just volts or MaH (milliamp hours)) you multiply volts times itself and then divide that by the Ohms?

 

[PGVG]

If you are ordering from cignot I would suggest getting the 3 / $25, is a good deal and they are reg attys and will work in a 510 or a eGo

What cig are you using?

The DSE901 and the V2 Power Cig, (uses a cartomizer) which is a passthru device. And both of these have holes between the atty and the battery (which I have read, are not good for dripping).

 

[Lisa B]

I just read your original post, 510 batteries do not last long. They are a great starter but just don't keep a charge long, my advice is to go up to an eGo, they have great battery life and your 510 parts fit well and if you want to drip them they are great. But if you are dripping it has to be manual batteries.

 

[Lisa B]

The DSE901 and the V2 Power Cig, which is a passthru device.

Does your passthru use 510 atty's? I have not heard of that one and I have not used the dse901 but doesn't that use cartomizers (cart/atty) all in one?

 

[Lisa B]

I have the same kind of pass-thru with the battery in the cord, I don't know much about them, just know mine does the job, so is good for me.

 

[Rudforce]

How come the 510 passthru looks like it has a battery in between the USB plug and the device? Is this USB power charging the battery which in turn powers the device?
Are there 510 passthrus that do NOT have this battery pack between the USB plug and the device?

Many passthrus have an inline battery, these tend to operate at 3.7 (battery) volts. Yes, USB keeps the batt charged and you're actually vaping off the battery, not the USB.

Passthrus with no battery are actual 5 volt devices, you're vaping straight off the 5 volt rail of your computer. The (potential) problem is that USB is only specified to provide up to 500mA, but a PV can draw something closer to 1500mA. In many cases it's not a problem. There is, however, the risk of frying your motherboard by using a 5V passthru. Personally I won't risk it. I can buy a $10 wall wart much easier than I can replace my laptop.

 

[Icoth]

My problem and experience has been that the atty does not get hot enough and the battery only lasts for ONE cig's worth of hits. Does that mean that my atty may be a HR atty and my battery is a low MaH battery?

The mAh of a battery is an indication of how long a battery will last, and may be the reason you can't vape very long. It does not determine how hot the atty gets. The voltage of a battery and the resistance of the atty determine how hot the atty will get. Watts can be used as a guide. A lots of folks figure out their personal sweat spot, how hot they want their vaping experience to be. Often you'll see it mentioned as volts. Since you can change either the voltage or the resistance though, its easier to use a reference in watts. I've seen 8-10 watts given as a common sweat spot but I like mid to high 5's. The design of the atty also has an impact independent of the watts, so it can only be considered a guide. This may come in handy if you start using high voltage battery mods or low resistance attys.

I doubt you have a high resistance atty. They would not come with a standard kit. You probably just have a crappy atty. They seem to come standard in a lot of kits sold in mall kiosks and at convenience stores or at least that's what most reviews in this forum indicate. If you're not getting enough hit from one of the recommended kits like a 510 or KR 808, you may need to consider either low resistance attys/cartos or a battery mod. You may also just need to try some different juice, higher nic, more PG vs VG, to increase the throat hit.

I should really apologize for even bringing up the whole watts thing in this thread. I think it is helpful, but not in this context. Instead of helping, I only made things seem more confusing and they really don't need to be.