Newbs let me help you save a ton of cash and frustration

[woody1]

Every single one of us were brand new at one time, with that said listen up.

Here is my resume

20 year smoke 1.5 pack a day marlboro reds

I needed nicotine, I needed throat hit, dont we all

Here is the first problem in the ecig world. 90% of the products are junk, 90% of the products are the same, just repackaged, 90% of the products will drive you right back to the store for a pack of smokes due to serious frustration with cheap chinese junk.

Smokes are the most reliable form of smoking on the planet.

IF you REALLY want to quit smoking, you absolutely MUST have a reliable device, simple, no nonsense.

Nothing like waking up at 2 am to take a leak lol, and want to grab a smoke BUT you find yourself at your table or desk fiddling around with a wick on an ego tank setup. This alone is enough to drive you to kill someone.

Buy these exact products to ensure you have a solid replacement for cigarettes, THEN you can experiment with other devices should you like.

5v Box 3xAA 5 Volt Boxmod with changing LED

510 Boge Boge 510 Atomizer, 2.5 ohms

Get your protected batteries and charger from madvapes as well. Fill with your liquid of choice and I GUARANTEE you will be able to overcome cigarettes. This way you can play with other devices but you always have a rock solid device to keep you focused.

This industry is still very new and still is a LONG way from having dummy proof, easy non tinker devices. You must make it very simple if you ever want to kick cigarettes all together and its WAY too easy to get lost and buy junk which will eventually wear you down so you go back to cigarettes, because cigarettes are SIMPLE and WORK EVERY TIME.

Good Luck

 

[TonyTT]

That sounds like an order, sir. I definitely think certain types of people will benefit from this advice. The "whatever suits you, everyone is different" approach has probably gotten a few of us into trouble. It's nice to just have a straightforward insert rod A into joint B post. Now is it sound advice?

 

[woody1]

I put together this 5v box mod, if you like to tinker, buy the unassembled, if you cant solder and tinker, buy the assembled.

I can tell you with certain a 5v box and a boge cartomizer is deadly simply, reliable, repeatable and CHEAP and will knock you on your .... with the amount of vapor, heat and throat hit.

For people that are moving from heavy cigarette use, they must have reliable and simple, without this, they will leave ecigs in the dust in 10 minutes once the next craving for a smoke hits.

I am FAR from a know it all, not even close, BUT I have spent enough money on junk you would think I was a know it all and had all the answers lol.

 

[elfstone]

I'll defintiely look into this. Thank you.

This reminds me of this. I'm pretty sure everyone here knows this, but it's funny coz it's sooo true: 4 Stages of Vaping - YouTube

 

[FeelMyRoth]

I still think most people like to vape outside their house, and alot of people my age won't touch something that is way bigger then a cig, me myself I like style, but I guess social stigma plays a small roll in style. Remember younger smokers(<5-10 years of cigs) want to quit too, and social stigma among their friends who likely also smoke but don't want to quit will play a large roll in their quitting, so larger devices, vapor output be as it may, just will make them feel like the outcasts that being forced to smoke outside has made us feel, now we can't even vape with our smoking friends.

Although this is slightly exaggerated, I have successfully quit smoking with an 808 for 5 months and been using it almost a year, and was 2 months off cigs with a Blu with refillable cartos of course for 24mg nic. The point is younger people are looking for social acceptance and a way to quit. Very difficult to do with larger mod devices.

 

[keyzygirl]

5v is a little much for some new vapers.Vaping isnt a one size fits all type of thing.Its great you found something that works for you though.

 

[GhosT81]

They're cheaper at maximum vapors
5 volt center red button box mod

I prefer either boge 3.0 ohm or smoktech 1.5 dual coils for it

 

[D4rk50ul]

I remember maybe a year ago there was a big thread about the new members area and how it was becoming very confusing because every new post was followed with 5+ recommendations of different kits, from different favorite vendors, and conflicting information. I think there was some consensus that there really should be some continuity about what was recommended so that new members weren't overwhelmed with information. I do completely agree with that as I did back then, so perhaps we could just recommend an Ego-Riva-?? style because they are usually available at most vendors and let them choose where to buy it at. Let the new users move on at their own pace towards a mod or whatever they want in the future. Arguing which one has a better vape because of a .5 voltage difference is insignificant to a new user, our main goal is to make sure they don't get a completely worthless product for $200 and never give vaping a chance to save their lives.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[wv2win]

I still think most people like to vape outside their house, and alot of people my age won't touch something that is way bigger then a cig, me myself I like style, but I guess social stigma plays a small roll in style. Remember younger smokers(<5-10 years of cigs) want to quit too, and social stigma among their friends who likely also smoke but don't want to quit will play a large roll in their quitting, so larger devices, vapor output be as it may, just will make them feel like the outcasts that being forced to smoke outside has made us feel, now we can't even vape with our smoking friends................

So what you are saying is if you are a "younger" person, how you look and what other people think of you is more important than performance or what you think of yourself. I suspect there are some "older" people who also are more concerned with what other people think of them than what performs the best, also. When it comes right down to it, even a min-model is just a "fake" cigarette and will be viewed that way. I had one local guy tell me his friends all made fun of him when he tried using a mini-model PV and said he was a (I won't say the word) and so he went back to smoking. He said he finally realized his friends were right and he was "pretending" to smoke and that he looked dumb.

I think the OP's advice of starting with an inexpensive 5 volt model like a box mod is good advice especially if you were a pack a day or more smoker.

 

[FeelMyRoth]

Well, I wouldn't say its more important, but maybe as important, and IMO as I have tried an EGo, its really not that far off from a 808, which to me as a menthol lights guy, is a little too bold. The whole calling it a 'fake' cigarette thing is annoying but I correct them and tell them its an e-cig. I don't feel as tho I pretend to smoke more that I smoke an alternative. I go to alot of clubs in Austin, and I can honestly whole heartedly tell you that when I am there I am the only one using an e-cig. I also try not to go to places that allow indoor smoking. Around here all the clubs allow indoor smoking although convenient, its not the best place for an e-cig user. I do sometimes get some uplifting from people as one girl walked up and said "thank you for saving my lungs" thats right one puff of vapor at a time. However wierd that moment was it was better than "is that a fake cigarette" and one good comment out of 1000 bad ones is what makes it better than smoking. And thats what e-cigs should be, they shouldn't be "fake" or "pretend" cigarettes they should be better than cigarettes. In my mind 808s give off more "smoke" than an analog, I think the illusion is they give off less because of no smoke coming off the tip. But I believe they are better, and I think that improving the look by modifying the atomizers and led's and PCC's is the way to go rather than having to carry a bottle of vapor and press buttons and this and that. Some smokers don't even want to take the time to pack their cigs, and I don't think those same people are going to want to drip and press buttons or tinker as you say.

When people ask me about mine and if it works, I always ask if they have tried one, and if they have its usually "yeah I got one of those from the 711, wasn't strong enough" I let them try my 36mg menthol and they cough and ask them if its strong enough and the response is "thats pretty harsh". If thats coming from a fresh analog smoker then I feel confident that 808s are every bit a good alternative maybe better. I actually when I first started was with 24mg and moved to 36 for more buzz. Analogs do not give me the buzz that 36 does, although I am moving away from that as its too harsh on my throat. I feel that if people who smoke lights and such go with something designed to give off a good TH that they will be self-concious about then they will be more inclined to smoke analogs. Also you mentioned an atomizer unit, atty's are too hard to maintain, again adding extra work where there was none with analogs, it should be a 3 step process, 1. buy, 2. attatch cart, 3. puff. Just like analogs were, 1. buy, 2. light, 3. puff. Anything more is a step back and that is not the direction that I would like to lead new vapors. Some people off the bat will like mods without any guidance, but those looking for something light and sleek need to go with something like an 808d, with so many carto options and nic strengths its the closest to being better than analog that you will get. As soon as I find the best pre-filled cartos vendor, I think I will be able to make my collection into the best e-cig or "fake" cig lol that I can find.

 

[GhosT81]

It's just a cheap option New vapers can check out. If I would have know about 5v box mods before I got my ego t I probably would have got my mod 1st then I would have been able to quit smoking sooner. The 5v has helped me out more than my other 2 kits have.

 

[FeelMyRoth]

5v is a little much for some new vapers.Vaping isnt a one size fits all type of thing.Its great you found something that works for you though.

Yeah phewww, I've been vaping for a year and still choke on a 808 the first few drags every time, I was a 1 pack of camel menthol lights, quite a distance away from 1.5 marboro reds. I think I would smoke 3 of mine back to back if I did that with reds I would vomit, I almost do that with 1, a bit too strong for my taste. And thats why everyone had their brand, some people liked to smoke, some liked harsh. I liked to smoke and liked smooth.

 

[wv2win]

It's just a cheap option New vapers can check out. If I would have know about 5v box mods before I got my ego t I probably would have got my mod 1st then I would have been able to quit smoking sooner. The 5v has helped me out more than my other 2 kits have.

If I've read one, I've read a thousand posts from a newer person who spent way more than they otherwise would have if they had followed your advice and also transitioned more quickly.

 

[FeelMyRoth]

Yeah and I have a buddy of mine that got me hooked and he finally switched to a E-go but he is a much more harsher cig smoker than I am as well, pack a day Marlboro 27's. One thing he pointed out when quitting initially is the addiction level to other things other than nicotine, which I don't think new vapers realize. He mentioned that any additive or ingredient in cigs could cause withdrawl symptoms, whether it be the chocolate they soaked his 27's in or the Menthol they soaked mine in, I still crave a good menthol every now and again, actually have been fighting that urge all day a few puffs and I'm good but again it takes time to break the other addictions rather than just nicotine, and a bigger mod with more vapor won't cure those as thats not what you are really craving. I've given mine time as I cannot find a good menthol flavor as of yet, as most don't really use menthol. If anyone can suggest a real menthol tobbaco flavor that would help me out massively, would really be the only thing I would be willing to drip but have tried so many that failed and ended in the trash.

 

[D4rk50ul]

If I've read one, I've read a thousand posts from a newer person who spent way more than they otherwise would have if they had followed your advice and also transitioned more quickly.

I think at some point that is true of 95% of people. The problem is that making your first purchase is already so overwhelming and foreign that more options can be a bad thing. Also the psychological aspect of wanting a device that resembles an analog seems to be very strong in most people. I have seen a million recommendations against it yet they still end up with a small device, so I am starting to think that its a necessary path that everyone goes through from analog style, to ego style, to mod... to 20 mods.. to homemades.. to rooms dedicated to vaping gear..

 

[TonyTT]

If I've read one, I've read a thousand posts from a newer person who spent way more than they otherwise would have if they had followed your advice and also transitioned more quickly.

Then again, it is a process...we all went through it, and some of us are still going through it. Trying to jump steps without truly earning our progress, or learning from our mistakes is a reason why older generations are calling my generation, ignorant, lazy and ungrateful. Everyone has to start at the bottom to fully appreciate the top. I remember this one post, where this guy read up on the forums, and bought a provari right out the gates. I think his post was called "sooo now what?" (paraphrasing). I would rather savour the journey and when I get my next upgrade, I want to fully appreciate it. You gotta have a foundation. I think the most important part is to just give enough guidance, support and advice to keep them interested, enthusiastic and optimistic.

 

[TonyTT]

But paying 100 bucks for a blu is also a travesty, make them stop that

 

[throatkick]

I own 5 of the boxes the OP speaks of. I love them! They're cheap and they work!

I always believed that new users should experience a strong hit the very first time they try vaping. Bam! You never get a second chance to make a first impression and something strong sends a message that "This isn't a toy!" If the initial impression is weak and puny it may not be able to convince heavier smokers. If they find it too strong, it is easier to convince them that the intensity can be reduced as opposed to the opposite.

That being said, not all smokers are heavy smokers and not everyone needs 5v or feels comfortable sucking on a box or a big fat tube. Isn't that why the whole "get an eGO" movement was started?

That being said, I am very glad you found exactly what you were looking for Woody1. It makes the whole smoking thing a distant memory very quickly!

 

[TonyTT]

I think 90% of the reason vaping is so effective, is because it's so exciting and distracting. Who has time to think about analogs, when they can have their own custom design on a shiny "chuck", or light up clearomizers.....shiny!

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

That sounds like an order, sir. I definitely think certain types of people will benefit from this advice. The "whatever suits you, everyone is different" approach has probably gotten a few of us into trouble. It's nice to just have a straightforward insert rod A into joint B post. Now is it sound advice?

I'd have to say it is sound advice, Tony. If it works for you.