Next logical step? (808 or Go go or other?)

[Shaggy]

Hello all! ECF has been my "go to" tool for research over the past year, and I've learned a lot from it. First off I wanted to say thank you for all the helpful individuals out there that have provided great info and advice! This is my first post, so I feel it's important to recognize those who put time and effort into this.

I have been trying to get myself off traditional cigarettes for about 3 years now, and the electronic cigs are the only thing that really seem help. I've so far I've tried the Blu... yes I fell for that route, I hang my head in shame, and more recently I've had mixed results using the the 902 from Modern Vapor. As I said before they do help, it's just not enough to really push me to switch over to 100% digital. I am looking for something with more kick. With all my past models I just feel like I'm pulling way too much air out of the unit. The manuals do seem better than autos, but it still more air than flavor/vapor.

I've been searching for a few different routes and was looking for some input. I first picked the Volt 808 due to all the great reviews I've read, and as habit leads, it's still similar in shape/size to what I'm used to. I am willing to try something different though. I see a lot of great feed back on the "Go-go" from CigEasy, but am on the fence over the proprietary design (don't like being locked to one brands products). Along the same lines, the Lavatube looks interesting as well.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated! I'm open to suggestions on other products as well. Thank you all in advance, and keep up the great work!

 

[Kay1959]

Go with a KGO and 1.7-2.0 ohm cartomizers. Also start off with a pretty high nicotine content...about 24 mgs to start with.
The KGO has 510 threading which is more popular and you'll have a much wider base of things you can use from more vendors that way. Get your juice at a 70/30 mix. Welcome to ECF! Glad to have you on board!

Elite Vaporworks KGO Starter Kit with Boge LR Cartomizers - KGO

Here's a vendor that sells a starter kit with cartomizers and a 36 ml bottle of juice.

 

[klac]

If you want to quit analogs, I would just get an ego twist, some blank Boge cartos, and ejuice from a reputable source. I would also recommend that you start with a high nic content fir your first juices, like 36mg. Get like a sample pack, so that you could test which flavor suits you best. Welcome and Good luck!!

 

[Flyer]

I agree with Kay 100%. The difference in performance between cig look a likes and the KGO/EGO style PV quickly confirmed that vaping was for me. After barely more than 3 weeks, I have no desire for analogs.

 

[Off Topic]

The KGO is a good system. For the money, it's a great deal. It just isn't variable voltage.

For the little extra $$ you can get a lavatube and adjust the taste of each juice to what you like. And with the 2000mah batteries, you don't have to worry about it going dead on you at a bad moment.

Make sure you get a version 2. The version 1 was a bit underpowered.

Crystal Clear Vaping

I use the Provari V2 myself. The machined stainless construction was worth the extra $$ to me. You could get 3 of these lavatubes for the cost of Provari I currently use, and have virtually the same power/attachment capabilities.

I have a habit of dropping my PV's (from great heights, onto concrete), so I need the extra durability.

 

[sailorman]

I second Kaye's suggestion. The kGo is the way to go if you want to stick to a fixed voltage PV. The Go-Go has no advantage to trade off for their proprietary-ness. A bigger battery with a universal 510 connector and a 3.7V output will be much more satisfying.

If you want to explore variable voltage vaping, there is no better value than the lavatube IF you get one of the newer versions. They will be called version 1.5 or version 2. There were major improvements made over the original version, but many vendors are still selling version 1, so make sure what you're getting. Smokeanywhereforpennys.com has the best deal on the new, revised lavatubes.

 

[sailorman]

The KGO is a good system. For the money, it's a great deal. It just isn't variable voltage.

For the little extra $$ you can get a lavatube and adjust the taste of each juice to what you like. And with the 2000mah batteries, you don't have to worry about it going dead on you at a bad moment.

Make sure you get a version 2. The version 1 was a bit underpowered.

Crystal Clear Vaping......

The problem is that CCV has been out of stock, like almost everyone else. Theirs is the version 1.5, which is probably better than the Version 2 anyway. At least one vendor is calling the version 2 the version 1.5 T. Best not to worry about version numbers and go by the amp limits. Original version is 2.5amps. Ver.1.5 is 3.2amps and Ver.2 is 4.0amps.
They are made by 3 different companies and the 4amp version has had some quality issues reported. I've heard nothing negative about the 3.2amp version and that's all anyone really needs anyway.

 

[Ratchet]

KGO if you want to stay with Fixed voltage. If you're ready to venture into Variable voltage, there's the more reasonably priced Lavatube (I own 2 of them, version 1 and I'm loving it!) or the relatively expensive $200+ Provari. It all depends on you budget and your readiness to go VV...... If you're going Variable Voltage, I'd suggest a tank setup that can hold anywhere from 3-6 ml of juice, depending on what you get. If you want to splurge, get a Phiniac tank! they are beautiful and the Tallboy will fit standard Tank Cartomizers available from most vendors..... And most important - HAVE FUN vaping! I've been off analogs for 3 months now and I'm in love with vaping (unfort. my bank account is not in love with me these days... LOL!)

 

[Motoman101]

Hi. I just bought a Pig Cig from LeCig. Uses 808 orD1. I love it. Great vapor. Likes a big ecig.

 

[Shaggy]

Wow, you guys respond quick! Anyone have any links so I can get an idea what you guys are talking about? I've seen the Ego before, but not too sure what a Kgo is. I have never used a variable voltage unit before, but I hear good things. I keep coming across users referring to "the sweet spot" of roughly 4.5. That's why I started to look into the Lavatube. Do different voltages limit what accessories can be used? I'm pretty happy using around 18mg of nicotine. I've tried higher levels, and I can't really describe how, but I knew it was too much. But from what I've been reading higher voltages play a huge factor into the mixture flavor/TH.

 

[sailorman]

Here's some kGos.
KGO

Higher/different voltages change the heat of the coil, depending on the resistance of the carto or atty. Different juices taste better at different temperatures. With a fixed voltage, you change the heat by changing the ohms of the carto. With a variable voltage, you can keep the same resistance (ohms) carto and just change the voltage.

In general, nicotine is what causes TH. Different voltages don't limit what accessories can be used, the expand what can be used. But, if you have a VV, you don't need to use low resistance stuff. LR accessories were made to make 3.7V feel like 5V or 6V or whatever. With a VV, you just use 5 or 6V in the first place.

Here is the best deal currently going for a Lavatube: Variable Voltage 1.5 Mod Kit - Smoke Anywhere For Penny's, LLC Store

 

[Shaggy]

Oh! And as far as Juice goes, I'm still searching for my go to. So far the only flavors I've liked were Apple and Red Bull. I smoke Camel menthol, but here's the kicker... I don't like any other menthol. So most of the menthol flavors I have tried are just over powered mint. Every tobacco flavor I've tried tastes kinda bland. And I've heard there really isn't an accurate tobacco flavor out there, which if you think about it makes sense since that's what we're trying to get away from.

 

[Shaggy]

Thanks for the links Sailorman. That setup looks pretty sharp! I may end up ordering one of those this evening. Which would you go with KGO or Lavatube? Is the Variable Voltage that big of deal?

 

[Blinx]

Here is a link to an ego c twist kit. It is variable voltage like the lava tube but much smaller and cheaper. Ego's/kgo's are the way to go. I used an analog look alike while smoking for 2 weeks before I got my ego. The day I got my ego is the day I finally quit analogs. EGO-C Twist Crystal Vision Kit

 

[Blinx]

As far as juice goes try backwoods brew or Alien vision. Both companies are very reputable and have great juice. Backwoods has some really good tobacco flavors. Try hunters blend from backwoods.

 

[MickeyRat]

Thanks for the links Sailorman. That setup looks pretty sharp! I may end up ordering one of those this evening. Which would you go with KGO or Lavatube? Is the Variable Voltage that big of deal?

VV can be a big deal but, you can sort of get the feel for what it's like by getting lower resistance stuff on a Kgo. I wouldn't recommend that on a mini batt. The Kgo isn't going to deliver a lot more than the Volt. It's going to be mostly battery life which opens the door to devices that use more power.

You might consider something like this Bolt kit. You should be able to go the day on one batt easily. One thing nice about that setup is that later if you want to move up, you can get another extension tube and a kick and you'll have a variable wattage mod without having to pay for another mod or more batts.

 

[sailorman]

Thanks for the links Sailorman. That setup looks pretty sharp! I may end up ordering one of those this evening. Which would you go with KGO or Lavatube? Is the Variable Voltage that big of deal?

I think the variable voltage IS that big of a deal. I have one of the best fixed voltage e-cigs you can get and I hardly use it anymore since I got a Lavatube.

With a VV, you don't have to mess with different resistace cartos. You just get anywhere from 2.5-3.5ohms and you're good to go. You can adjust your vape for your juice or your mood. I often start at a higher voltage and, using the same juice, turn it down during the evenings. I have CE2 tanks that I use at 4.2 volts with some juice and 5.5 volts with other juice, in the same tank.

The problem with something like the twist, it #1 it's disposable. When the battery wears out, you throw it away. #2, it's got a very limited range of useable voltage, only 3.3-4.8 Volts. #3, it's incremented at 0.2V steps. In effect, it's a selectable voltage device with 10 settings. #4, You can't use it when it's charging. You don't want to charge it overnight. If you had two of them, that wouldn't be a problem, but they'd cost as much as the Lavatube.

 

[sailorman]

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You might consider something like this Bolt kit. You should be able to go the day on one batt easily. One thing nice about that setup is that later if you want to move up, you can get another extension tube and a kick and you'll have a variable wattage mod without having to pay for another mod or more batts.

OMG... Talk about lipstick on a pig.
If you're going to go that route, spend the extra $40 and get a Silver Bullet, not the cheezy knockoff. At least you'll have something decent when you "kick it". I wouldn't trust that $2 switch with the current the kick could feed it.

 

[Shaggy]

#1 it's disposable

That's all I needed to hear. I'm looking for something that will last. Thank you for the option though Blinx, it does look nice. Everything is pointing towards the Lavatube. I wish it was a tad smaller, for portability purposes, but I suppose it's not too huge and it's not filled with tar. The KGO was looking perfect, but if VV is a huge step in calming the nerves, I'll take that plunge. Thanks again everyone! I'm going to look into those juice companies Blinx mentioned too.

 

[Kay1959]

Even though you are getting the Lavatube, it wouldn't hurt to get the KGO also (either now or alittle later), for either 'out and about' or as a backup unit.(It's always good to have backups incase something unforseen happens to your main device) A VV device is a big step up from the KGO, and I'm sure you won't be disappointed...but I went with Provari myself