Maybe by saying a mantra... "I will not have a lucid dream tonight, I will not have a lucid dream tonight". Just kidding. I like lucid dreams without the nightmare theme. It's like an adventure.
Nicotine and Dreams
- Thread starter Kyi
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
Maybe by saying a mantra... "I will not have a lucid dream tonight, I will not have a lucid dream tonight". Just kidding. I like lucid dreams without the nightmare theme. It's like an adventure.
Well that's sort of possible - it works with kids who have night terrors.
Before sleep you picture soemthing 'saviour like' - could be a magic dragon, something religious, something from legends - anything that will save you if a lucid dream comes.
Right as you are settle yourself into bed, you picture in your mind, and say in your head 'If anything bad happens X will be there to save me - i can trust in X to save me from bad things etc etc' Then you picture X saving you from something you fear, or from a feeling of terror to one of safety. I know its corny but it works.
If you get really good at it, X (your personal saving avatar) will just have to appear for the dream to 'end'
To work with any kind of dream you need to mind-picture X putting you back to bed and sleeping soundly. You must re-imagine this happening more than once - over and over is best. You want your mind to understand what it is you want it to do.
Its a behavioural approach but it seems to work in children very well - something you might want to try if its really bothering you.
(Note: I've used this method myself for finding items I've misplaced during the day - my imagining is me looking thru an enormous file cabinet marked 'lost n found' just before i got to sleep; I've had some great results.)
Before sleep you picture soemthing 'saviour like' - could be a magic dragon, something religious, something from legends - anything that will save you if a lucid dream comes.
Right as you are settle yourself into bed, you picture in your mind, and say in your head 'If anything bad happens X will be there to save me - i can trust in X to save me from bad things etc etc' Then you picture X saving you from something you fear, or from a feeling of terror to one of safety. I know its corny but it works.
If you get really good at it, X (your personal saving avatar) will just have to appear for the dream to 'end'
To work with any kind of dream you need to mind-picture X putting you back to bed and sleeping soundly. You must re-imagine this happening more than once - over and over is best. You want your mind to understand what it is you want it to do.
Its a behavioural approach but it seems to work in children very well - something you might want to try if its really bothering you.
(Note: I've used this method myself for finding items I've misplaced during the day - my imagining is me looking thru an enormous file cabinet marked 'lost n found' just before i got to sleep; I've had some great results.)
Cool, CaptJay - using imagery - you must be a very visual person.
I used to have nightmares as a kid about "fires" and I used my stuffed dog as my protector while saying "I will not have a nightmare" - did that for a while and the nightmares did disappear.
Using your method for lost items would be a bonus for me as I hate losing things!
I used to have nightmares as a kid about "fires" and I used my stuffed dog as my protector while saying "I will not have a nightmare" - did that for a while and the nightmares did disappear.
Using your method for lost items would be a bonus for me as I hate losing things!
getting arrested, losing my wife, worms coming out of my body....normal stuff...
And lets not forget the one where i am in side a giant atomizer and i am very upset because it is clogging or there is not enough fluid in it...
And lets not forget the one where i am in side a giant atomizer and i am very upset because it is clogging or there is not enough fluid in it...
getting arrested, losing my wife, worms coming out of my body....normal stuff...
And lets not forget the one where i am in side a giant atomizer and i am very upset because it is clogging or there is not enough fluid in it...
Jeesh, you might want to try the imagery techniques mentioned unless you love scary movies that you are the star in! 8-o
Imagery works best because the subconcious is a child 
Logic doesn't cut it in its simple world.
Oh and my last vivd dream I was smoking an analog and enjoying it - and I still haven't worked out if it was a nightmare or a good dream..
(vivd though - could taste it really well)
Logic doesn't cut it in its simple world. Oh and my last vivd dream I was smoking an analog and enjoying it - and I still haven't worked out if it was a nightmare or a good dream..
(vivd though - could taste it really well)
Funny, I had a dream that my sister was at my house and we were talking and laughing. Then I woke up to the reality that she DID die on Wednesday (2/10) from small cell lung cancer. She was 56 and a Marlboro smoker for 40 years.
Better to have bad dreams than real-life nightmares.
Better to have bad dreams than real-life nightmares.
Vivid dreams are not at all uncommon on NRT, steroids and some medications. Some people report having out of body experiences as well. The nicotine molecule attaches to the same receptors in your brain as acetylcholine, a neurotransmitter which is tied in to memory and learning. The first time I went on patches, I got a full body tingly/numb feeling and had really bizarre dreams nightly. I am not a doctor/scientist but I think to much nicotine or a sharp withdrawl from it can upset the balance of what the body is used to and have effects directly on the neurotransmitters. Most of us have a "stasis" level of nicotine we are used to per day. Changing to an e-cig may change that level to either higher or lower. The body normally adapts though and you go back in to balance. If you are having symptoms of too much nicotine, it is best to back off a bit though
Slither, I think you are correct here. But I think there is more to it. Nic does activate acetyl choline receptors, and will increase dreams as a result. However, analogs have MAOIs in them which are anticholinergic, and so balance this for the smoker. Remove those (vaping) and its all nic, plus the withdrawal cholinergic effects of no MAOIs, such as dreams and constipation. I had these in the beginning too. But they have for the most part gone away now.
I find the nature of the dreams themselves is very interesting here. One can take choline supplements to boost memory...it works, and also boosts math abilities, but too much can make you a bit spaced out. Triple strength lecithin is high in phosatidyl choline, and will do this. It boosts brain-levels of acetylcholine. I've known people in the sciences that have used this for boosting memory and math thinking...until the dreams start. We called them "choline dreams". High energy, adventurous, apocalyptic, with running away from something, or fighting something. A couple dreams like this is ok, but when they come every night it gets very old. The choline dreams are why I don't take lecithin anymore.
Nic lights up all the acetylcholine, higher thinking, pathways. MaOIs partially shut these pathways down. Remove the MAOIs, and keep the nic level high or higher than when smoking, and presto: choline dreams. Crazy action movie high-energy choline dreams. Color is also amplified, as are other senses. And the memory of the dreams lasts longer too.
They will most likely pass. I don't have then nearly as often as in the beginning.
I have had some vivid dreams this past week since I started to vape. Nothing bad, or compared to if I were taking Chantix. Actually I welcome the dreams, I've had more dreams this past week then for the past several months on analogs. Probably because my body is not getting one of the other 1300+ chemicals?
Years ago I had alot of nightmares and always tried 'fighting' them.... then I realized I liked scary movies but these were better because 'I was the star' and had all the senses and realism.
So I started willing them on and 'enjoying' them. I would be scared as hell during them, but would 'yes-fist-pump' as soon as I awoke and realized it was a free, virtual-reality experience.
I guess my reverse psychology messed with my head because I have had no recall of dreams or nightmares since soon after that.
I miss dreaming, and always looked for deeper meanings etc.. but some science show I was watching said you only remember your dreams if you awake within 2 mins of experiencing it, so wouldn't 'more' dreams just indicate restless sleep? And no dream recall indicate undisturbed sleep?
I guess if they were more vivid they could be actively waking people up so they would remember them.
I chain vape 36mg+ especially before/in bed and still have no dream recall.
Patches might be good for something after-all!
My dreams are more vivid, but that could be attributed to the 4000 chemicals removed than the few added. Dunno, but the odds would be in favor of those no longer present.
- Status
Similar threads
