Nicotine hit ecig vs analog

[eddykoodoo]

I found my self is very easy with a good device and with a standard 9mg nicotine liquid is very easy to get a much stronger throat hit compared to analog...
Once after vaping a lot i tried a red malboro and i felt pretty light as throat hit.

Saying that how is possible nicotine delivery is much lower in ecig compared to analog.
I read you need to chain vape 30 min to get the same nicotine in your blod with analog 5 minutes

Obviously for health issue i never got back to analogs so i can't compare but some time i guess i would need 80 cigarettes a day to get the same satisfaction...

Am i wrong? Anyone tried the difference?
Specially dual vape users?

 

[GrowthCurve]

Vaping isn't smoking

I smoked for over 20 years, and quit in 2006, when circumstances rendered me too broke to buy cigarettes. I chewed nicorette that i got for free. When i ran out of gum, i chewed on black pepper corns for three years. Chewed nicorette when i got some more money.

Discovered vaping 4 years ago, and it kept me awake during the night shift at the hospital. The motion of bringing the ecig to your mouth is the same. The draw isn't the same as a cig. If you don't smoke or vape for several hours, then hit a cig or vape heavy, you may get lightheaded.

There isn't a scientific study that is sound enough to compare the nic levels in users who smoke vs vape. Too many variables.

Smoking is dirty, and makes your house and car--and your body dirty. Vaping--nothing in my house except to pick up after my rebuilding sessions.

Not doing ANYTHING is the best--because it is WAY cheaper. But i love my nicotine and i love my rebuildable vapables. Don't worry so much about trying to play 'scientist'.
I AM a scientist--i eat, sleep, and poop science 24/7 and let me tell you--a scientist's life can really SUCK!!

So vape your new mods--or don't...and try to have some fun. Take it from an old broad--only so many hours in a day--days in a year--and years in a life. All we have is time, till we don't.

Ok, off to Ma's

 

[eddykoodoo]

Vaping isn't smoking

I smoked for over 20 years, and quit in 2006, when circumstances rendered me too broke to buy cigarettes. I chewed nicorette that i got for free. When i ran out of gum, i chewed on black pepper corns for three years. Chewed nicorette when i got some more money.

Discovered vaping 4 years ago, and it kept me awake during the night shift at the hospital. The motion of bringing the ecig to your mouth is the same. The draw isn't the same as a cig. If you don't smoke or vape for several hours, then hit a cig or vape heavy, you may get lightheaded.

There isn't a scientific study that is sound enough to compare the nic levels in users who smoke vs vape. Too many variables.

Smoking is dirty, and makes your house and car--and your body dirty. Vaping--nothing in my house except to pick up after my rebuilding sessions.

Not doing ANYTHING is the best--because it is WAY cheaper. But i love my nicotine and i love my rebuildable vapables. Don't worry so much about trying to play 'scientist'.
I AM a scientist--i eat, sleep, and poop science 24/7 and let me tell you--a scientist's life can really SUCK!!

So vape your new mods--or don't...and try to have some fun. Take it from an old broad--only so many hours in a day--days in a year--and years in a life. All we have is time, till we don't.

Ok, off to Ma's

I'm completly agree with you this is not a comparison between ecig and analog...
We all know vaping is 100 time better...
The only thing i can't understand is why if you do a draw of egig is very common to get a much stronger throat hit than analog.And we all know from the research the nicotine intake is usually much lower with blod test...

So why the strongest throat hit?

When you go back to smoke after vaping you didn't felt as it was not nicotine?

 

[GrowthCurve]

It's Thanksgiving in the lower 48. Can't help it. I'm Ukranian. We feed everyone

 

[GeorgeS]

Easy -

• analogs have that +3000 chemicals along with burnt tobacco and some nicotine to create a 'throat hit'
• Vaporizers have PG, flavorings and nicotine to create a 'throat hit'

Some flavors have more TH than others.

 

[eddykoodoo]

Easy -

• analogs have that +3000 chemicals along with burnt tobacco and some nicotine to create a 'throat hit'
• Vaporizers have PG, flavorings and nicotine to create a 'throat hit'

Some flavors have more TH than others.

Throat hit is given by nicotine...
If you reduce nicotine to 0 doesn't matter if you vape subohm 200 watt or composition is 100% glycole.You will get ZERO THROAT HIT.

Performing devices and PG juices can increase a lot the throat hit cause increase the juice consumption so nicotine delivery each draw.But essential condition is the nicotine in the liquid...No nicotine No throat hit just huge clouds and great aroma but no throat hit...

So my point his if we are capable to get MONSTER THROAT HIT each draw and while chain vaping is very easy to do 500 draws x day how could be the nicotine intake is a lot lower than average 200 draws with less intense throat hit you get with 20 analogs (10 draws average).Maybe absorbtion is difference?

Cause there is a study where even with pretty powerful device and pretty high nicotine liquid concentration you need to chain vape 30 minutes to get the same amount of nicotine you get from an analog with just 10 draws in 5 minutes.

Maybe i'm wrong and the study is not correct.
Anyway we can discuss about nicotine intake between vaping and smoking usually and if you find new studies you can link to the discussion.

Since i only vape i can't compare between ecig and analog nicotine intake i just tried one draw once 3 years ago from a malboro and i felt an horrible taste but a very low throat hit.Maybe cause i wasn't able to smoke anymore...

Btw dual users can give us a better opinion than mine about what they feel about nicotine intake and throat hit between ecig and analog...

 

[GeorgeS]

I'm sorry Eddy but I disagree.

PG can and will create a LOT of throat hit. Some flavorings like Cinnamon can create enormous throat hit (even rendering the juice unable to vape).

Nicotine is not the ONLY item that might be present in juice that can create a "throat hit".

As an example, I can easily vape 18-24mg nicotine in %100VG. However in %50/%50 VG/PG - not so much.

 

[eddykoodoo]

I'm sorry Eddy but I disagree.

PG can and will create a LOT of throat hit. Some flavorings like Cinnamon can create enormous throat hit (even rendering the juice unable to vape).

Nicotine is not the ONLY item that might be present in juice that can create a "throat hit".

As an example, I can easily vape 18-24mg nicotine in %100VG. However in %50/%50 VG/PG - not so much.

I tried to explain you why

Caus 1ml of 100% VG is almost double the density of 100% PG so let's say if with VG you finish 1ml 18mg in 100 draws you just need 50 draws to finish 1ml 18mg with PG...

So each draw with PG liquid deliver almost double of nicotine.
But belive me cause i tried if you vape 100% PG with 0 nicotine you can't feel any throat hit...

So the strongest hit you feel cause an higher PG or hugher wattage is just because each draw you get mor nicotine not for the wattage or the PG itself.

 

[Verb]

Very low throat hit can be obtained with VG and high quality nicotine. But, it does depend on the brand of VG and nicotine. I've noticed a big difference in throat hit using the same nicotine and different brand/source VG.

 

[eddykoodoo]

Very low throat hit can be obtained with VG and high quality nicotine. But, it does depend on the brand of VG and nicotine. I've noticed a big difference in throat hit using the same nicotine and different brand/source VG.

Thats normal cause some VG liquid have more density than others.
Less denity=stronger hit cause vaporize qickee so you get more nicotine each draw

 

[kiba]

I'm sorry Eddy but I disagree.

PG can and will create a LOT of throat hit. Some flavorings like Cinnamon can create enormous throat hit (even rendering the juice unable to vape).

Nicotine is not the ONLY item that might be present in juice that can create a "throat hit".

As an example, I can easily vape 18-24mg nicotine in %100VG. However in %50/%50 VG/PG - not so much.

I see Eddie is making broad assumptions again with no basis in fact or personal experience...

Btw he vapes unflavored, pg free. Just vg and water... You can go back and forth with him all day but you'll not convince him of anything, it's your choice, but I prefer not to feed the trolls.

 

[ChelsB]

Throat hit is given by nicotine...
If you reduce nicotine to 0 doesn't matter if you vape subohm 200 watt or composition is 100% glycole.You will get ZERO THROAT HIT.

Performing devices and PG juices can increase a lot the throat hit cause increase the juice consumption so nicotine delivery each draw.But essential condition is the nicotine in the liquid...No nicotine No throat hit just huge clouds and great aroma but no throat hit...

So my point his if we are capable to get MONSTER THROAT HIT each draw and while chain vaping is very easy to do 500 draws x day how could be the nicotine intake is a lot lower than average 200 draws with less intense throat hit you get with 20 analogs (10 draws average).Maybe absorbtion is difference?

Cause there is a study where even with pretty powerful device and pretty high nicotine liquid concentration you need to chain vape 30 minutes to get the same amount of nicotine you get from an analog with just 10 draws in 5 minutes.

Maybe i'm wrong and the study is not correct.
Anyway we can discuss about nicotine intake between vaping and smoking usually and if you find new studies you can link to the discussion.

Since i only vape i can't compare between ecig and analog nicotine intake i just tried one draw once 3 years ago from a malboro and i felt an horrible taste but a very low throat hit.Maybe cause i wasn't able to smoke anymore...

Btw dual users can give us a better opinion than mine about what they feel about nicotine intake and throat hit between ecig and analog...

A little off topic, but I find that vaping doesn't last as long as analogs. Not that analogs are superior at all! But I used to have maybe one cigarette an hour and I find myself needing to vape a lot more often than that


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[daviedog]

A little off topic, but I find that vaping doesn't last as long as analogs. Not that analogs are superior at all! But I used to have maybe one cigarette an hour and I find myself needing to vape a lot more often than that


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How true,, Roly gate did a blog about that in the reference library here.
Around 2013, 'Comparing Apples & Oranges'..

 

[mcclintock]

The study I saw on youtube was that vapers needed to use their own equipment to reach the nic level of smokers, and they still didn't quite reach it but the nic was a lot more sustained. It just creeps up on you rather than being immediate.

Vaporized nicotine tends to condense rapidly, such as in the throat, while in smoke it is attached to particulates.

And important function of flavor, perhaps the most important and least understood by critics, is throat hit.

 

[vapdivrr]

I'm completly agree with you this is not a comparison between ecig and analog...
We all know vaping is 100 time better...
The only thing i can't understand is why if you do a draw of egig is very common to get a much stronger throat hit than analog.And we all know from the research the nicotine intake is usually much lower with blod test...

So why the strongest throat hit?

When you go back to smoke after vaping you didn't felt as it was not nicotine?

I use to smoke a fairly strong cigarette and when I started vaping I had to vape 24mg nic to feel the same TH . I have changed devices since I started vaping but still vape mtl with wattages not that much higher and still vape 24mg nic, so although it's been years since I had a cigarette, I personally feel that what I am doing right now is equal to the TH from a cigarette, not more.

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[CMD-Ky]

When I smoked, I would smoke an entire cigarette, multiple draws over, maybe, a five-minute span. With my REO, two or three draws within less than a minute. I think that maybe the reason that a cigarette would "hold" me longer. I got more nicotine over a longer time using more draws.