Nicotine, Vaping, and Teens

[Hans Wermhat]

The Tax man cares not where the tax comes from so long as it comes.

Very true. His biggest concern is how to make sure he get his taxes from EVERYONE.

 

[pennysmalls]

Wow, I worked at Sheetz gas stations for a number of years through college, and we definitely got shopped by undercovers all the time. They would find a local teen (usually a 17yo who looked way older), offer them money to try to buy cigarettes, they'd come in and try to buy cigarettes and then take them to the cops outside. The store I worked at was once fined $500 and the clerk who sold them was fired on the spot and had to pay a fine of $250.

Interesting. Perhaps it has more to do with location than anything then. Perhaps smaller communities just can't afford the manpower for such things.

 

[MaenadMoogle]

VERY possible.

 

[Hans Wermhat]

The stings are a huge pain for the local LEOs. They look at it like a waste of time. It takes a small team of cops who could be out looking for rapists and murderers all day to drive around to shops and do it. Usually only happens when someone in the community screams loud enough about kids smoking. They go out and bust a couple of folks with a photog from the paper on standby, put a nice lil paragraph on page 32 of the paper with the pic, etc.

 

[MaenadMoogle]

I guess that's what happens when you work in a yuppie neighborhood whose biggest problem is the number of DUIs after the annual Kenny Chesney concert. (Which 100% explains why they would have enough time for all of the underage stings we had)

 

[sofarsogood]

Try this thought experiment. If a police officer decided to help kids avoid tobacco by enforcing the possession law against them he would be discouraged by his management from doing that. But if there were no excise taxes on cigarettes the police would enforce the possession laws and the community would support that. There is opposition to ecigs BECAUSE they help people stop paying the tobacco taxes. If all those smokers who switched to vaping never the less continued to pay the cigarette taxes there would be zero controversy about ecigs.

 

[DreamWithin]

Moved to Media & General News forum

 

[rico942]

I recall in 1969 being in a traffic accident at age 17, slammed by another car that ran a stop sign ...

The cop who took the report lit a smoke and offered me one, which I gratefully accepted, since I was pretty shook up ...

Different times ...

 

[Lessifer]

It hasn't been asked in this thread yet, so I'll go ahead and ask it. Why should nicotine be age restricted? There is more and more evidence that the nicotine in vaping does not create dependence, and therefore would not be a gateway to smoking.

 

[Hans Wermhat]

Nicotine is still classified as a controlled substance. Unless that changes, it will always be age restricted.

 

[Lessifer]

Nicotine is still classified as a controlled substance. Unless that changes, it will always be age restricted.

Where is it classified as a controlled substance? I can't find anything stating that it is.

 

[Hans Wermhat]

You are right. I's tobacco that is a controlled substance. My bad. I can't find anything either. I guess the laws haven't caught up with the new tech yet. That's why the FDA is trying so hard to classify e-juice as a tobacco product.

 

[Lessifer]

You are right. I's tobacco that is a controlled substance. My bad. I can't find anything either. I guess the laws haven't caught up with the new tech yet. That's why the FDA is trying so hard to classify e-juice as a tobacco product.

With exclusions for magically safe BP nicotine, of course.

 

[Hans Wermhat]

Of course! Lol! I still say the vaping industry needs a lobbyist in DC.

 

[MaenadMoogle]

Of course! Lol! I still say the vaping industry needs a lobbyist in DC.

I'LL DO IT! **but only if the salary is similar to BT lobbyists.

"In 2010, the tobacco industry spent $16.6 million on lobbyists to represent the industry to Congress" (From wikipedia, I know not the MOST reliable, but I believe this one one)

 

[Hans Wermhat]

And that doesn't cover what they spent "lobbying"/buying votes.