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mopar

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Holy crap this the worst news I've heard since I discovered MadVapes. Why not at least compromise by not shipping e-juice to Canada which is the cause of customs seizures, I've never had a hardware order from MadVapes seized. Where else am I supposed to fuel my addiction? :)

I think that troll Koore put him through hell by looking at the customer service thread(now he hates all Canadians :)). I just want my hardware/mod stuff I don't even care if the odd item is DOA(I never complain about a bad atty carto or the likes) beats the heck out of ordering from china. As for the juice, just state that if it is confinscated it's at our loss or if anything or all of the order is confiscated it's our loss. I don't care if I loose the odd bottle(s)(or the odd $100.00 or so order). Or atleast allow a few of us that have been customers to continue to order. Hell I was saving up my points for a GC next order.

As we continue to fight for our vaping rights the last thing we need from our American brothers is isolation.
 
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This truly would suck if they aren't shipping to Canada anymore. I've ordered from him a few times and have always had great service. Shipping might have been expensive but it was also incredibly fast, and yeah, I got hit with a customs fee once but that's the risk we take ordering anything from the US no matter who it's from. Plus, MadVapes is one of the best resources for DIY mod parts.

I really hope this is just a mistake or temporary thing. Kind of leaves us loyal customers in the dark. I mean, I didn't have a whole lot of loyalty points saved up but that could still have given me a little discount off my next order -- if I could make a next order...
 

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I working with them on the ticket system. Seeing if they will still ship at our loss if customs seizes anything like china does. Also explaining to them that we usually order on two separate orders and that if the juice doesn't come through oh well it's a cost of us vaping, and the hardware comes through because it is totally legal here. I don't think they understand our laws. I'm working on it :)
 

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We're counting on you mopar, better not disappoint us :D

Pressure is on, at the very least hopefully he will continue to serve some of his better customers like you and me phil :)

Customs & Tax Issues

Because of the relative novelty of the technology and the possible relationship to tobacco laws and medical drug policies, e-cigarette legislation are currently pending in many countries. We appreciate your doing a research about import risk on your local country first.

All customers are responsible to check with your local customs office for any potential import policy, taxes, duties, and tariffs.

Customs:

1. Our practice to help clear customs.

Generally, there will be a package list inside the parcel. It is a complete list of items we sent, it will also instruct you how we packed. This package list can be removed if you leave an message or payment note to remind us of it.

Generally, we don't declare any parcel as "e-cigarette", we declare an unrelated name, we don't attach any Proforma Invoice in the parcel. We also mark a lower value to avoid tax. For small orders, we mark around USD35, for larger orders, we mark no more than USD450. If you want us to mark certain amount, feel free to leave an order message in "Order Postscript" before you submit your order.

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Oct 11, 2010: Our Finnish customers reported that e-liquid and prefilled cartridges are prohibited to enter Finland. May 12, 2011: Petri reported that e-liquid and prefilled cartridges are legal to enter Finland now.

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Seems there was a dramatic increase in inspections of shipments going to Canada recently. We totally understand but our cart doesn't. We need to be able to restrict certain products from shipping to Canada or limit the type of shipping.

We got a letter from Fedex stating that our shipments were being held or rejected by health canada/customs.. To plug the bleeding until we can find out more, the easiest fix was to stop accepting orders from Canada until a resolution is found. We don't want it to be a permanent measure by any means.

What happens when a package gets rejected by Canada customs if sent via Fedex:
1) Fedex send us an overnight letter with a tracking number asking us to call and charges our account $12
2) We call and find out why, typically something Health Canada doesn't like, and have an option of having the package destroyed ($70) or shipped back ($30). We choose ship back usually.
3) Customer starts logging tickets about slow shipping or delays or customs and yelps about bad customer service.
4) We either try and re-ship or refund based on customers choice.
5) If a re-ship we eat the cost of re-ship +$12+$30
6) if we refund, then we eat the orignal shipping cost+$12+30

If by USPS:
1) The package goes missing :(
2) We reship to an unhappy customer at our expense.

Seems with certain items be problematic, we need to figure out a way in our cart to not allow restricted items from being added to the cart. For now a quick shut-off until a resolution is found was the fix, sorry but had to do it.

I absolutely love the fedex service to canada though and would hate to offer usps only again.

Bottom line is we're looking for a solution..

hoog
 

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Ok cool, I just thought you were hanging us out to dry. It is just items that contain nicotine, that can interfere with shipping here. Only ...... order juice and hardware on the same order. I apologize for the experience you had with one of our resident Trolls. Perhaps people are taking advantage of the fact that you are so kind, we order from china all the time and when we do we know there is a good chance we won't get our juice at all. So we separate our orders and cross our fingers. Please come up with something that protects you but does not restrict our ability to order all of your wonderful products :) We understand the situation up here and the risks associated with ordering out of the country. Thanks we look forward to a speedy solution.
 

mopar

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Did these shipments have juice?

Just from what I can gather it seems shipments with juice are more prone to being stopped. Hardware, not so much.

Well, in any case, I hope it works out. Otherwise, I'm making a post "Madvapes Points for sale" :(

Yes.

Thanks for your input.

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Yes.

Thanks for your input.

Points are non-transferable.

Gift certificates are though, which is what you buy with points. :)

Good to hear that a solution is being worked on, Hoog. I'd hate to be locked out of MadVapes entirely, as I've had nothing but great service and you guys carry some excellent products. (Now if only you'd carry Boge cartos or Cisco atties.) If the issue has been with packages containing juice then perhaps you could just have a big bright red notice for now on the juices pages stating that they can't be shipped to Canada, and if you get any Canadian juice orders notify the buyer and refund the cost of the juices -- at least until a more automatic solution can be resolved.

I do know I'd heard something a little while back about HC requesting that customs stop shipments of even blank cartos because they "may contain traces of nicotine" (what a steaming load) but I'm not sure how strictly that's being enforced if it is at all.
 

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Gift certificates are though, which is what you buy with points. :)

Good to hear that a solution is being worked on, Hoog. I'd hate to be locked out of MadVapes entirely, as I've had nothing but great service and you guys carry some excellent products. (Now if only you'd carry Boge cartos or Cisco atties.) If the issue has been with packages containing juice then perhaps you could just have a big bright red notice for now on the juices pages stating that they can't be shipped to Canada, and if you get any Canadian juice orders notify the buyer and refund the cost of the juices -- at least until a more automatic solution can be resolved.

I do know I'd heard something a little while back about HC requesting that customs stop shipments of even blank cartos because they "may contain traces of nicotine" (what a steaming load) but I'm not sure how strictly that's being enforced if it is at all.

I agree with everything Mindfield, but... Hoog, let me order juice, just totally at my loss if customs snatches it. I am hoping to get a solution without throwing anymore ???? in the poor guy's head. A Chinese style buyer beware sort of thing. We can select fedex or USPS so we can also assume the greater risks associated.
 
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