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Not Gonna Buy Any More Premixed E-juice. EVER.

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  1. Mudflap

    Mudflap Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 19, 2010
    Tyler, Texas
    Dear juice chefs/vendors:

    Nothing personal against y'all, but I'm done with the lot of you. I've enjoyed some of your creations, but I've been unimpressed with most of them. There are now dozens of juice vendors and every single one of you (that I've seen) is looking to milk as many dollars as you can from your customers rather than offer them a good product for a good value. I know you've got overhead to cover and your time is worth something too, but I don't have the disposable income to do business with any of you any more. I firmly believe your mark up has entered the realm of excessive. I can't afford to go out for steak and lobster every night and I can't afford to continue throwing away money just to learn your product is inconsistent and disappointing. Too many of you have left a bad taste in my mouth. Literally and figuratively.

    Oh, and about your arguments about the cost of e-juice vs. the cost of analogs? I don't smoke any more, so the cost of analogs doesn't figure into my budgeting. Would you budget fuel costs and automotive insurance if you don't own a car?

    So, I'm gonna vape away my remaining stock of sub-par, overpriced, premixed e-juice, and venture into DIY when it's almost gone. I might not ever be able to make any juice that I'll enjoy as much as the few good premixes that I've stumbled across, but I don't figure I'll make it worse than all the bad ones I've forked over good money to buy. And if I do, well, I wasn't in it for the money so the cost of some flavorings and base won't hurt much at all when I pour it down the drain.

    Bye bye, juice vendors. Your market just shrank by one dissatisfied customer.

    P.S. -- If your gonna charge me $15 or more plus inflated shipping for a 30mL bottle of juice that needs to sit on the shelf for a month or more before it even tastes good, I don't think you intend to stay in business for the long haul.

    P.P.S. -- The above rant was for my sole benefit. I feel a little better having said it. If I wanted to take on the juice vendors, I would have posted this elsewhere, but I'm not looking to change anyone's mind or even argue about it. I just wanted to throw it out there for it's own sake. Peas.
     
  2. olwildbill

    olwildbill ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 25, 2010
    Kansas City Missouri
    Afternoon Tripp, (could you tell us how you really feel???)

    Yippee Ki Yay partner!!!
     
  3. DietSalem

    DietSalem Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 21, 2011
    Indiana
    Admittedly, my wife and I are in the same boat. She's in the process of learning how to DIY so we can stop overpaying so much. Fact of the matter is, the very vast majority of vendors are in it for business and business alone, and when wanting to help your fellow vaper is no longer a main priority you start to get overpriced.
     
  4. davelog

    davelog Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 4, 2011
    Phoenix
    Testify, brother. The only juice I still buy pre-made is BWB Malty Toffee, and I'm most of the way to replicating it with DIY and it too will fall by the wayside when I have it nailed.

    Cost is a valid factor, but for me DIY's just too damn fun and personally rewarding, and I can't justify buying premade when I can do it myself.
     
  5. Vegastar

    Vegastar Super Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 9, 2011
    Grand Rapids, MI
    I wish I had the space to set up a little lab myself. Instead, I just tend to order from vendors I know hold quality. I'll sample a few things if I'm trying something new, but alien visions and copper creek are vendors that never let me down for the money, so I stick with them. There are a lot of mediocre money grabbers in the world, unfortunately.

    Best of luck in your DIY adventure!
     
  6. nerak

    nerak ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Love it Tripp!

    Since I started DIY I have tasted some of the top rated juices and was not impressed. I liked what I put together much better!

    It just makes sense to go the DIY route. YOU can do this! Just wait, you will wonder why you waited so long to try!
     
  7. colt45

    colt45 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 29, 2011
    frankfort indiana
    gotta agree with george, it ain't rocket science and it can be a lotta fun. plus its so cheap to do it yourself
     
  8. 440BB

    440BB Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Apr 19, 2011
    The Motor City
    Most important is that you can spend your savings on more mods! They're pretty cheap compared to the ongoing cost of premixed juice.
     
  9. tizz

    tizz Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 7, 2011
    wv
    i too am sick and tired of paying for mediocre juices..and the one vendor I dont mind paying for never has my juice in stock!
     
  10. Pete54

    Pete54 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 30, 2009
    Clearwater, Florida
    I too have stopped buying over-priced "vendor" juice. My DIY juice costs me about $3.00 for 30 ml. By DIY you can also tailor your juice to exactly the nic strength, PG/VG ratio and flavor level you prefer. I'm sorry I waited two years before trying it!!!
     
  11. canoeist

    canoeist Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 29, 2011
    Piedmont, SC
    You go Tripp! I have been doing it for about a month, not difficult at all!
     
  12. Mudflap

    Mudflap Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 19, 2010
    Tyler, Texas
    Coming soon! Tripp's Custom Rhubarb Juice!

    Free while quantities last, just pay shipping! Take my juice... please! :D
     
  13. colt45

    colt45 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 29, 2011
    frankfort indiana
    add some pie crust flavor and sweetener. yummmm rhubarb pie
     
  14. DietSalem

    DietSalem Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 21, 2011
    Indiana
    Oh man. Rhubarb pie juice? Are there any good vendors for that? Screw DIY for now, I'll buy a bottle of that!
     
  15. whatitstrue

    whatitstrue Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 16, 2011
    Phoenix, AZ.
    Bravo!!! Bravo!!! [​IMG]

    I recintly ordered some DIY supplies for the exact same reason. [​IMG]To help release me from the clutches of some of these juice vendors.

    There is nothing worse than when you do find the juices you prefer and then they dont taste anything alike from one batch to the other. [​IMG] Then your stuck with 30+mls of [​IMG] you cant vape [​IMG]
     
  16. karmakatie

    karmakatie Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 8, 2011
    MO
    I am with ya Mudflap, I have a shelf of juice, that is bleh....mostly Viking Vapor juice, they were cheap but they all turned black after 2 weeks and taste horrid and will glog and kill a carto or atty in nothing flat!! I do not get any nic tingle off of them ever, and when I have tried to vape them I start wanting a cig bad, like there is no nic in them or not the stated amount. I often have wondered if I have bad juice and am seriously considering disposing of it, as I would not want to pass this off to someone else!
     
  17. oplholik

    oplholik ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I have been vaping for about 9 months and mixing my wifes and my juice for about 3 months. I never thought I'd be mixing my own, but when you start thinking of the difference in costs, and the fact that I have what I want, when I want, and how I want it, well, ya just gotta do it. It only take a couple minutes to whip 30 ml's.
     
  18. tricci

    tricci Super Member ECF Veteran

    May 7, 2011
    Philadelphia
    I feel you! You put it so well. So much juice is crap. I can't believe how much they charge then soak you for shipping, rip off!

    I have tried my hand at DIY and all my juice pretty much tastes bad. I made a couple of good ones, but just a couple. Even though I hate paying for premixed I will continue to anyway. However, I worked out a pretty good system. I buy the 180ml bottles from Bluemist. $36.00 for 180mls isn't too bad, it's $6.00 per 30 mls (shipping included). I vape 4 mls a day so one big bottle lasts 45 days. When I have 3 big bottles of Bluemist juice then I'll buy small quantities of juices I like better (Alien Visions, Want2Vape, Vapor Station). I have a strict $36.00 a month juice limit. So all in all I spend $432.00 a year on juice, which isn't too bad. Though, not as good as DIY pricing.

    If anyone ever comes up with a recipe that comes real close to: Boba's Bounty, Vapor Station Phoenix, Want2Vape Red Pirate, Gorilla Juice, Hype, or Want2Vape Acid Blonde I'm all ears.
     
  19. Big Hitter

    Big Hitter Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 21, 2010
    Binghamton, NY
    I"ve only ordered from 4 places in the last 2 years :)
    One of them screwed me on my first and last order from them so its down to three now.

    They are all good ones, two with free shipping and all reasonable priced.

    I tried DIY and its not for me .... I'm lazy. But I don't like getting ripped or paying for junk so I just stick with a few flavors I love.

    I don't try anything new anymore unless someone gives it to me.
     
  20. canoeist

    canoeist Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 29, 2011
    Piedmont, SC
    I dumped a bunch of my stuff, I did not think it was worth the postage to even give to some unsuspecting soul.
     
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