FDA Not much going on here of late
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Yep, does kinda feel like that...
Many sections of this forum have gone quiet, at least compared to this time last year. I'm hoping it's just a vaping lull and not the quiet before the storm.
Maybe it's like the final phase of a trial. Closing statements are in, now we are just waiting for the jury to come back with a verdict. Could be a long wait.
Also I think the forum was down for a couple hours last night... I started getting one of those cloudflare error pages a bit after midnight, and it never did come back before I went to bed. On my alerts this morning, there's a msg-time gap of about 2 hrs.
But yeah, it's seemed extremely dead round here recently. Getting a lot more books read.
Andria
But yeah, it's seemed extremely dead round here recently. Getting a lot more books read.
Andria
Are things quieting down because there are fewer newbies showing up? The forum owner could inform us about that or may be there's a way to figure that out from member lists?
Compared to when I started a couple of years ago the gear newbies get going with is so much better now that I think they get settled into their happy vaping place much more quickly than they used to.
For me the wait for the FDA shoe to drop is positively maddening. I always do better when I know for certain what I am up against. This waiting is just painful.
The waiting is painful.
Ha ha, these days when I get a PM from a newbie s/he wants to know how to build for 200W Sorry, friend, you're asking the wrong member
Ha ha, these days when I get a PM from a newbie s/he wants to know how to build for 200W
Sorry, friend, you're asking the wrong member
The waiting is painful.
Ha ha, these days when I get a PM from a newbie s/he wants to know how to build for 200W
Or, someone asks *me* what's a good tank for high-VG.
How the heck should I know?!?! The only tanks I know in the first place are Kayfun Lite Plus... using 87% PG! But I seem to be permanently spoiled now with my Achilles; I can't make a Kayfun vape well to save my life. All I can taste is cotton.
Andria
I've been wondering why things seem so quiet lately. Used to have several pages of new threads daily...now, not so much. When I started, there were no vape shops within 40 miles. Today we have 4 full fledged shops and several smoke shops that sell starter kits. It may be that newbies just have more help available from stores and peers...not just the internets.
There are a couple of shops around me I visit occasionally and they let me hang out some. They are not seeing many newbies. What I see is regulars who buy e liquid and that's the heart of the business. If the growth of newbies is continuing may be it's happening on line with the help of personal friends and family.
I think on the FDA regulations front, everyone is just waiting to see what the OMB/OIRA does with what the FDA submitted. It's been over 90 days, but that doesn't seem like it was an actual deadline in this case.
So we wait...
So we wait...
As much as I'd like to see this thread deleted
... the 'deadline' has been characterized by OMB, FDA, OIRA as a 'soft deadline' in many places. The average from OIRA to Federal Registry, iirc was like 53 days. But this isn't an 'average' issue.I believe the longer the jury is out bodes well for our side. Maybe, the folks @ OIRA are actually checking out some of the Garbage they have been fed.
Just sayin'
I hope you're right. I know that if my job was to ensure something didn't have major negative economic impacts, and I received information from multiple sources detailing how a large source of economic growth would be wiped out, which even the FDA admitted to in a roundabout way, I'd think twice.
I believe I heard that Congress had this week off due to last weekends storms. Would that mean that other government offices were closed too? Of course this week is almost over...
I think OMB got more info than they counted on (or wanted) on the POSITIVES of vaping. Let us hope they are bumfuddled and are reconsidering the prospects. From what I know the FDA didn't change much from their stance last year that got kicked back. I think the quietness has to do with the "wait" of the OMB. There are a lot less newbs in general, but that has the possibility to change regardless of OMB. The media (as we all know) keeps making sure vaping is portrayed in a negative light, that is not encouraging to anyone wanting to quit smoking.
It seems kinda obvious when stated that way.
And what we're hoping for is that the obvious becomes the reality.
But this is government work we're talking about.
And we can only hope that what is obvious is something they care about.
There ARE some outside influences that would need to be ignored...
(MONEY)
Fish gotta swim and birds gotta fly. We have 100 years of collectivist momentum to overcome. Who cares what party or label you put on it. That's the issue. Or we, the worms, can bicker. Plenty of birds and plenty of fish to pick at our bones.
Good luck all.
Good luck all.
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