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Well everyone I cancelled my order since you guys talked me out of it. Now I just want LG preferably 25 amps and Im thinking about just getting a 200w-220w mod and maybe get the tfv12 x4 coils instead of the overkill t12 . Anyone have any suggestions for a nice setup built around the tfv12? Btw I mass produce like 300ml ejuice a day for cheap thats flavorless, so using up juice is not a sweat to me. 30ml only costs me like 10 cents to make.

If you're going to run in the 100-150W range, I'd give serious thought to a 3 battery mod, not for safety (although that's always nice) but for battery life. A 2 battery mod might not get you through a whole day at wattage's like that (probably won't).

There are a lot of new 3 and 4 battery mods out there, but with the rapid release cycle of late, the inexpensive stuff has been having some real QC issues (anyone see the melting Wismec exoskeleton deal?). As your only looking for watts, not TC, I wouldn't sink money into something like a high end DNA or YiHi mod, you won't benefit from the added features.

If you want to stay sorta pocket friendly, there's the ubiquitous Alien, good for 100-150W with decent batteries, and I've had one that's held up fine for 6 months (watch, it'll die tomorrow), or a little fancier G Priv with a touch screen, if you like that sort of thing. The Smoant Battlestar and Charon (sp.) get good words said about them. There's also the new Smok G2/4 which you can reconfigure from 2 to 4 batteries depending on your needs.

Sorry, but I have to ask, who do you make 300 ml of unflavored juice for every day?
 
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If you're going to run in the 100-150W range, I'd give serious thought to a 3 battery mod, not for safety (although that's always nice) but for battery life. A 2 battery mod might not get you through a whole day at wattage's like that (probably won't).

There are a lot of new 3 and 4 battery mods out there, but with the rapid release cycle of late, the inexpensive stuff has been having some real QC issues (anyone see the melting Wismec exoskeleton deal?). As your only looking for watts, not TC, I wouldn't sink money into something like a high end DNA or YiHi mod, you won't benefit from the added features.

If you want to stay sorta pocket friendly, there's the ubiquitous Alien, good for 100-150W with decent batteries, and I've had one that's held up fine for 6 months (watch, it'll die tomorrow), or a little fancier G Priv with a touch screen, if you like that sort of thing. The Smoant Battlestar and Charon (sp.) get good words said about them. There's also the new Smok G2/4 which you can reconfigure from 2 to 4 batteries depending on your needs.

Sorry, but I have to ask, who do you make 300 ml of unflavored juice for every day?
I have neighbors and friends that would rather just buy unflavored ejuice off me than have to order online for some reason. So they just buy like a bunch of it at a time every few weeks. I have been thinking about a 4 battery mod too for the life of course. Its just very hard to find 200w mods that dont include tanks. The biggest problem here is finding 25amp batteries that arent efest. 3000 mah 20amp LG is what i want to go for but they dont sell 25amp
 
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Good side business. You can find mods that aren't available only as kits, but it takes a bit of digging (I got my Alien without a tank). Sometimes you do get stuck on that, but typically the cost difference with or without a tank isn't great, and tossing another tank in the drawer for backup isn't such a bad thing to do.
 

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Good side business. You can find mods that aren't available only as kits, but it takes a bit of digging (I got my Alien without a tank). Sometimes you do get stuck on that, but typically the cost difference with or without a tank isn't great, and tossing another tank in the drawer for backup isn't such a bad thing to do.
Yeah I wanna buy all from MVS though because shipping from multiple sites is cancerous. Honestly I guess I can just buy a tank combo for a backup as you said, can be worth it. At this point though its the battery problem is the most worrying. Since apparently 20 amp is not good for a 200w max
 
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Im confused, you say can't find 25a cells 'here' but your location says United States.

LG HB series are 30a CDR 1500 mah.
LG Hd2 25a CDR 2000 mah
LG Hd2c 25a CDR 2100 mah
LG Hd4 25a CDR 2100 mah

VTC5A 25a CDR 2500mah ( must be "A")
VTC 3 30a CDR 1500mah

Rule of thumb using a regulated power device is;
50w - 60w per 20a CDR cell
60w - 75w per 25aCDR cell
75w - 90w per 30a CDR cell

I buy my batteries here ---> Batteries and Chargers
 

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Im confused, you say can't find 25a cells 'here' but your location says United States.

LG HB series are 30a CDR 1500 mah.
LG Hd2 25a CDR 2000 mah
LG Hd2c 25a CDR 2100 mah
LG Hd4 25a CDR 2100 mah

VTC5A 25a CDR 2500mah ( must be "A")
VTC 3 30a CDR 1500mah

Rule of thumb using a regulated power device is;
50w - 60w per 20a CDR cell
60w - 75w per 25aCDR cell
75w - 90w per 30a CDR cell

I buy my batteries here ---> Batteries and Chargers
I couldnt find 25a on MVS store. Im hoping 3 batteries of LG hg2 20a is enough for up to 200w
 

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personally, I wouldn't buy my batteries from MVS or any other vape store....especially if my intent was to push them to the limits. IMR, RTD or Ilumn are the only places I'd buy the batteries. That's what they do...they sell batteries.
Not knocking vape stores, but there's lots of fake batteries on the market and lots of batteries with inflated amp ratings and mah rating printed on them. Ebay and vape stores are great places to find them.
 

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I think a 3 or 4 battery mod will be worth it if your gonna wanna vape at 200+ watts.
I've never ordered batteries online as my local shop is very knowledgeable on batteries an stocks Samsung, LG etc...
However I still agree that alot of vape stores use fake batteries.
Heard alot of good things about IMR though, in fact used them when my store was out of stock.
LG do alot of 25a batteries, go on IMR an look for hd2. I got some yesterday & I'm using them in my wismec :) I like to push things sometimes
 

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I will say I have a lot of faith in MVS. I have gotten batteries from them, but they were a bit more than say IMR. Their customer service is also great if there's ever a problem, although it is all by email, no phone support.

Isn't MVS the one that keeps getting hacked?
 

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I couldnt find 25a on MVS store. Im hoping 3 batteries of LG hg2 20a is enough for up to 200w

Just me, I wouldn't push 3 - 20a CDR cells to 200w.
Depending on your power devices low voltage cutoff you might be exceeding the CDR, which will at least reduce battery life, both between recharge cycles (run time) & over all life ( from new to time to replace cells).

Mooch explains how to calculate amp draw & how to determine the cells you need in simple terms here ---> Calculating battery current draw for a regulated mod | E-Cigarette Forum


If MVS doesn't offer the cells you need to vape safely, you only have 2 choices.
Buy from a reputable source that does have what you need or select a more efficient delivery device that operates equally as well if not better in a lower power range.
High watts does not = better vape, more cloudz bro, more flavor or throat hit.

If you're on a tight budget the new fad of outrageously inefficient delivery devices & replacement heads will be the most expensive way to vape you can find.
 

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Yes, I don't understand why anyone on a budget needs to vape that high watts, in that kind of tank. Seriously, my Cleto sub-ohm tank eats juice, even my Nautilus 2 does if I use the .7 coil instead of a 1.8, which is unfortunate as I like the draw of the Naut 2, but if I'm stocking up (which I am) I don't want to be preparing myself for a river of juice. There is just no *need* for that kind of wattage (my opinion only) and pushing your vape rig to the max, over time, is just going to cause it to have *some* sort of problem *eventually*. Are you willing to consider other options? Because otherwise, I think you'll have a bit of a hard time, unless you are literally vaping, like, one puff an hour. That might work. It wouldn't work for me.

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No, that's My Freedom Smokes, or something like that

Do you mean Freedom Smoke USA? Yes, they have one of the best markups out there, though I have to say (athough I'm about to make my own, soon!) it's a good place to test flavors, look at stuff, and some of the stores who've been around longest in the area can be pretty knowledgeable. I like them for finding out the *types* of juice I like as you can test for free in the store, at least in AZ, and get small bottles of stuff to try. Their juice is pretty middle of the road IMO, slightly overpriced, but that B&M does have it's place (though, they do try to sell me KT products every time I even *think* about walking through the door....

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Yes, I don't understand why anyone on a budget needs to vape that high watts, in that kind of tank. Seriously, my Cleto sub-ohm tank eats juice, even my Nautilus 2 does if I use the .7 coil instead of a 1.8, which is unfortunate as I like the draw of the Naut 2, but if I'm stocking up (which I am) I don't want to be preparing myself for a river of juice. There is just no *need* for that kind of wattage (my opinion only) and pushing your vape rig to the max, over time, is just going to cause it to have *some* sort of problem *eventually*. Are you willing to consider other options? Because otherwise, I think you'll have a bit of a hard time, unless you are literally vaping, like, one puff an hour. That might work. It wouldn't work for me.

Annaw
I love the cleito but I can get liquids very cheap & I diy too.
I could use my mechs an put any high wattage sub ohm kit too shame though ;)
I agree with all you've said & it's a fad.
 
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No, it was MFS, just trying to remember what that stood for. They had several security breaches with folks finding their credit card information compromised. At least that was the speculation, and MFS did finally send an email out the last occurrence.

The OP might be one of the few where subohm high juice consumption won't matter if he's already mixing 300 ml of juice a day. The only cost then are the coils, which for a tfv12 are not cheap.
 

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No, it was MFS, just trying to remember what that stood for. They had several security breaches with folks finding their credit card information compromised. At least that was the speculation, and MFS did finally send an email out the last occurrence.

The OP might be one of the few where subohm high juice consumption won't matter if he's already mixing 300 ml of juice a day. The only cost then are the coils, which for a tfv12 are not cheap.
Forgot he said he was mixing juice! Personally I think there is better sub ohm tanks but that's just my opinion.
I love the herkales, it has juice control & it vaped just as good at 100 watts than the tfv12 at 200+.
I tried my friends tfv12 at 150 watts an was like owww my lips lmao
 
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