NOVA 2001 Search for a Safe Cigarette

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misterME

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Hi, I'm new here and just started vaping. This was an interesting episode on Nova. I seen an episode on the history channel one time that showed how they make ciggarettes. A lot of them are made with recycled tobacco where they add more chemicals to them.
What I find ironic is, that the FDA and other health organizations are making such a big deal about the few chemicals that are in ecigs, but I didn't hear any of them complain about the deadly chemcals that are put in the analogs. Especially the new ones in the FSC analogs.

Sorry if I'm a little off topic here, but I just wanted to put in my .02.
I was watching my local tv channel Sunday night and seen a commercial for the EZSmoker. This is the first commercial that I've seen on tv for an e-cig. I was wondering, if it's legal for them to advertise on tv and if so why doesn't other e-cig companies advertise on tv ? This would really get the word out about them. It was on digital channel 27.2 out of Harrisburg, Pa.
I can"t post a link but if you google search EZSmoke, you'll find they're site. The video on there is what was on they're commercial.

I looked but couldn't find it. The only EZSmoke sites I found were a discount tobacco wholesaler, a device for "smoking" your food (as in adding smoke flavor to meats), and an anti-tobacco site called "EZ Smoke - Worth It?" that has some crazy TV spots the put together for an anti-smoking campaign. But no e-cigs...
 

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I can't think of anything that isn't regulated by the FDA that you inhale that contains a drug that is sold anywhere... just a few thoughts.

Uh, cigarettes, cigars, pipe tobacco, chewing tobacco, snuff, snus, dissovlables. Sold freely anywhere without FDA regulation for a couple hundred years or so, until the FSPTCA was passed just this past June 22, for the first time giving the FDA regulatory powers over tobacco products.
 

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Uh, cigarettes, cigars, pipe tobacco, chewing tobacco, snuff, snus, dissovlables. Sold freely anywhere without FDA regulation for a couple hundred years or so, until the FSPTCA was passed just this past June 22, for the first time giving the FDA regulatory powers over tobacco products.

So... what you're saying is I'm still right.
 

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Right. Cigarettes, etc. are regulated under being tobacco products. Got that. But all I said was that the FDA regulates pretty much anything you inhale that contains a drug. Nicotine is by definition a drug last time I checked... Getting back on topic at least (somewhat), any smoke juice/e-liquid that is made currently that contains tobacco extract can be considered a "tobacco product" since it... well... ACTUALLY contains tobacco, regardless of whether or not certain e-liquid distributors advertise their liquid as being a non-tobacco product or not.
 

misterME

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Right. Cigarettes, etc. are regulated under being tobacco products. Got that. But all I said was that the FDA regulates pretty much anything you inhale that contains a drug. Nicotine is by definition a drug last time I checked... Getting back on topic at least (somewhat), any smoke juice/e-liquid that is made currently that contains tobacco extract can be considered a "tobacco product" since it... well... ACTUALLY contains tobacco, regardless of whether or not certain e-liquid distributors advertise their liquid as being a non-tobacco product or not.

Annie,

Not quite. To exercise full jurisdiction over e-cigarettes and e-juice, the FDA is classifying them as "drugs and drug delivery devices", not as tobacco products.

If they are tobacco products, the FDA does not have the power to ban them currently; they would be protected from that action just as cigarettes and other smoked tobaccos are.

But if the FDA can get e-liquid classified as a drug, then it can ban it straight out until the industry pays exorbitant fees to the FDA for all the right approvals.

So it is a very important distinction as to whether it is a tobacco product, or a drug. The two terms are mutually exclusive in this case.

Although nicotine is a drug, many products (those classified as "tobacco products" under the new law) are not treated as drugs by the FDA because of the current legislation. It would actually be great if e-juice were classified as a tobacco product (thus preventing it from being banned), except that you would quickly see all the "flavored" e-juices disappear I imagine, since they just did it to cigarettes.
 

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Annie,


Although nicotine is a drug, many products (those classified as "tobacco products" under the new law) are not treated as drugs by the FDA because of the current legislation. It would actually be great if e-juice were classified as a tobacco product (thus preventing it from being banned), except that you would quickly see all the "flavored" e-juices disappear I imagine, since they just did it to cigarettes.

Which is why we would soon forget about buying E-cigs entirely and go with the E-Cigar since there is no flavor issue with those products. Funny world we live in.
 

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I watched the video from the EZSmoker add, they specifically say ZERO nicotine a couple of times. So it's just something for the oral habit, won't satisfy your nicotine cravings. They also don't give much information on the starter kit. They are trying to avoid the complication of marketing a nicotine device. It's questionable if they could label it a drug delivery device.
 
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