**official canvape thread** - Part 2

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My first impression (30mins puffing on 2 large ones) ...the vivi novas are lovely. The flavor is really good -- SD like. Shipped with the 1.8ohm heads installed but I flipped both to 2.8 for a closer compare to the firebirds. Both 1.8s tested a little high on the multimeter -- 1.9 and 2.0, but the 2.8s (I have 6 total) were all 2.8 except for one 2.7).

The larger bodys are same inner diameter/thread as the stone3s I got from canvape when more turned up recently but the walls are a little (don't have calipers) thinner on the vivis and thus the outer diameter is about .5mm less than the stone3 tanks. Since I have two idle stones, they sucked for me, so I guess 2 "extra thick" vivi bodies now :) Not sure if they are the same material - I'm new to tanks and do much acid juices so haven't really paid attention much to tank composition.

The much warmer vapor on the vivis compared to the bottom fed firebirds is significant and I do prefer this over the firebird. As expected it seems the proximity of the cool to the mouth also gives the vivi the definite edge in flavor, but this is just an early impression for me and my taste has been a bit wonky for a couple days huffing on the firebirds incidentally - maybe it was them.

Gave the firebirds the weekend so now the vivis get a few days in the limelight although I suspect I might be staying with them as my SD replacement over the FBs. I was amazed with the FBs early but that seemed to fade some as I found myself missing something and longing for the warmer vapor and taste of the SDs -- preference I guess. I love the non-tipping of the firebird alot but I dont think I can make the trade off. I will give the FBs another chance I think to confirm in a week of vivi-testing to know for sure.

About the tipping -- Mopar, what in the world were you thinking ordering wicks so short, lol!? They can't even touch the side of the big tanks, haha. This is a pain though and I will likely rewick a bunch of these...deep down I have a theory about wick length and taste though and Im curious if the stubby wicks really are less prone to muted taste - not sure and Im too much of a newb in general.

Anyway folks, I like mopars vivis (apart from the wicks) -- definitely worth a try. Very definitely if you are a SD fanboy as it they look to be the answer to the SD flavor and performance with the all-day vape capacity.

PS: I also got two of the small tank vivi's (not sure why) and they are much thinner (not Stone-like) and look to be trying to fit on an ego rather than a LT type mod. As well, I ordered two of the new 4-part SDs for fun, but god knows when Ill get to them. The one note is that the coil heads are identical EXCEPT the SD ones have a longer metal stem above the coil reaching up higher to support the cup seal a further distance away on the SDs. Both will screw in to each other, but you need the right one to properly seal with the caps/mouthpieces for each. These also have short wicks.
 

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About the tipping -- Mopar, what in the world were you thinking ordering wicks so short, lol!? They can't even touch the side of the big tanks, haha. This is a pain though and I will likely rewick a bunch of these...deep down I have a theory about wick length and taste though and Im curious if the stubby wicks really are less prone to muted taste - not sure and Im too much of a newb in general.

Wicks are just the transport mechanism to deliver juice to the coil. The only thing that matters as far as taste goes is how much juice is in the part of the wick the coil is wrapped around. The rest of the wick are basically just straws to bring up more juice.

Short wicks are fine in a more narrow clearo because they can reach the sides, and so you can tip and roll to get the last drops caught if you're that patient (or desperate and have no refill on hand). However stubby wicks in a large tank like the Vivi Nova are a bit problematic because they won't be able to reach the juice once you vape it down low enough, no matter how you tip or roll, because they can't reach the juice. Longer wicks are a definite plus here.

However, even long wicks have a problem. Liquid has weight. It doesn't matter if they're almost entirely submurged in liquid, but once the liquid drops below a certain level, the wicks have to support the weight of all of the juice from the top down to the juice level, and the more weight there is, the more viscous the juice is, the less effective wicking (through capillary action) is without tipping. The only exception is if the wicks are thinner, like the long-multi-wick Stardust version (formerly the unofficial v3 which isn't the v3 anymore since the official v2 just came out). That has multiple long wicks, but the individual wicks are thinner, which means each individual wick carries less juice, thus less weight, and collectively they can deliver more juice to the coil more easily even when the juice level drops low.

So is the consensus here to take your sheath off or leave it on? The 3ml Firebirds that is.

Has anyone figured out how long both the Firebirds last? Recommended maintenance? I know Mopar will say toss them and buy new ones :)

You can't use these without the sleeve. The sleeve holds the drip tip. There are clear sleeveless versions of the Firebird available though that have a mount for the drip tip, but Adam doesn't have them at the moment.

Speaking of which, Adam -- replacement tanks without the sleeve/cap/mouthpiece? Any plans? :)
 

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I leave it on and haven't had issues but it comes off fairly easily. I don't notice a difference in the vape on vs off. I don't know how long they last yet but they seem very sturdy and other bottom coils I've used last incredibly long. I'm guessing they'll last 3wks-4wks each. Bottom coils can be hard to take apart and put back together for maintenance and as I've said I have found they last so long anyway that I haven't had to do any maintenance with others I've used. I will update when I've used these for longer though :)

Btw someone mentioned on the last page I think that you can easily mod these to make the drip tip fit with the sleeve off :)
 

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You can't use these without the sleeve. The sleeve holds the drip tip. There are clear sleeveless versions of the Firebird available though that have a mount for the drip tip, but Adam doesn't have them at the moment.

Speaking of which, Adam -- replacement tanks without the sleeve/cap/mouthpiece? Any plans? :)

I believe post 973 suggests you can.
 

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has anyone tried the green sound batteries?

maybe know their quality?

do they have the same rubber coating at the joys?

i just cant seem to find any info on them

Green Sound 1100mAh eGo-C Battery

those are the ones i was looking at

I thought I'd let someone that uses them let you know, but no one did. They are a great battery with a great price tag. The quality is equal to a Riva.
 

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I believe post 973 suggests you can.

If you're referring to post 975, you'd have to pop the mount off the top of the sleeve for that to work. I don't know whether it's just friction fit or glued or whatever, but I'm not going to take the chance breaking the sleeve on mine. :)
 

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If you're referring to post 975, you'd have to pop the mount off the top of the sleeve for that to work. I don't know whether it's just friction fit or glued or whatever, but I'm not going to take the chance breaking the sleeve on mine. :)

Just submit a warranty claim to Canvape :laugh:
 

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If you're referring to post 975, you'd have to pop the mount off the top of the sleeve for that to work. I don't know whether it's just friction fit or glued or whatever, but I'm not going to take the chance breaking the sleeve on mine. :)

The top that holds your drip tip is initially held in by glue around the top rim of the sleeve. Since the sleeve is metal, as long as you put it in a safe place and don't bend it up you can just pop the tip back in as you please.
If you put the 3ml tank without the sleeve onto your device, and push the sleeve back down, you can then press the driptip and the lil metal cap back in so the sleeve tube wont get all bent up. I should add it stays in very nice as well.

I know the sleeve makes mine suck real bad. With my sleeve on I get dry hits, juice up the tube and bonus gurgling, on my twists, ksd vv, or ego adaptors I have. It's a powerhouse without since the air holes actually pull the neccessary air into the coil which in turn produces more vapor. On the car ride home I felt quite ill from vaping too much :p I filled it with some of my Hawaiian punchout before I left work and I couldn't put it down.
 
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The top that holds your drip tip is initially held in by glue around the top rim of the sleeve. Since the sleeve is metal, as long as you put it in a safe place and don't bend it up you can just pop the tip back in as you please.
If you put the 3ml tank without the sleeve onto your device, and push the sleeve back down, you can then press the driptip and the lil metal cap back in so the sleeve tube wont get all bent up. I should add it stays in very nice as well.

I know the sleeve makes mine suck real bad. With my sleeve on I get dry hits, juice up the tube and bonus gurgling, on my twists, ksd vv, or ego adaptors I have. It's a powerhouse without since the air holes actually pull the neccessary air into the coil which in turn produces more vapor. On the car ride home I felt quite ill from vaping too much :p I filled it with some of my Hawaiian punchout before I left work and I couldn't put it down.

Okay, with the mention of dry hits -- a problem I do have with mine -- I had to try. The top actually popped off pretty easily, seems to be press-fit. Popped the mount on the tank without the sleeve, and I'll be damned. No dry hits. My only issue is that the mount doesn't really stay in place very firmly. I mean, it doesn't slide out when I remove the drip tip but it does wobble a little bit. Still, small price for eliminating dry hits. Now I'm thinking that maybe a few well placed small holes in the sleeve might let you use the sleeve and still avoid the dry hits.

EDIT: Spoke too soon. Just got a dry hit. But it seems to be further between dry hits at least.
 
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That sucks. what juice are you using in it? I haven't had one single dry hit yet and I've vape 3 tanks down to the very last drop (serious). I haven't even had anything that resembles a dry hit. Every single one has been fat and juicy, even whilst chain vaping. I haven't used anything heavy on the VG yet but that's next up (most vg % I've used in it thus far is like 50%).
 

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Okay, with the mention of dry hits -- a problem I do have with mine -- I had to try. The top actually popped off pretty easily, seems to be press-fit. Popped the mount on the tank without the sleeve, and I'll be damned. No dry hits. My only issue is that the mount doesn't really stay in place very firmly. I mean, it doesn't slide out when I remove the drip tip but it does wobble a little bit. Still, small price for eliminating dry hits. Now I'm thinking that maybe a few well placed small holes in the sleeve might let you use the sleeve and still avoid the dry hits.

EDIT: Spoke too soon. Just got a dry hit. But it seems to be further between dry hits at least.

i find if you give them a good shake after u fill it starts the wickking , once u get it going it doesnt stop this way , i flooded mine once this way
 

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Am I the only one that is cursed with a Vivi that does not provide good flavour? I so badly want to love this tank system, because it looks great on the Provari, but after a disappointing run with the version 1.0's I was hoping that these were the 2.5's that everyone seems to love. I now understand that these are not actually the 2.5's so that's a shame but I wouldn't care for the version number if the damn thing just worked how it's supposed to.

The head that I have on measures at 2.1ohms, so not sure which one it is, and while the draw is vastly improved and the flavour slightly better, it still gives me a deadish muted flavour. I have the Provari cranked down to 3.8v and I know that if I crank it any higher, it will start to taste burnt.

Truly bummed out here..and looking for any tweaks or suggestions that might help. :p
 

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Am I the only one that is cursed with a Vivi that does not provide good flavour? I so badly want to love this tank system, because it looks great on the Provari, but after a disappointing run with the version 1.0's I was hoping that these were the 2.5's that everyone seems to love. I now understand that these are not actually the 2.5's so that's a shame but I wouldn't care for the version number if the damn thing just worked how it's supposed to.

The head that I have on measures at 2.1ohms, so not sure which one it is, and while the draw is vastly improved and the flavour slightly better, it still gives me a deadish muted flavour. I have the Provari cranked down to 3.8v and I know that if I crank it any higher, it will start to taste burnt.

Truly bummed out here..and looking for any tweaks or suggestions that might help. :p

U mean the 2.5s listed are actually v2s ? I will have mine this afternoon I'm looking g forward to trying it

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U mean the 2.5s listed are actually v2s ? I will have mine this afternoon I'm looking g forward to trying it

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I am sure I read it somewhere in here in the last two or three days. Can anybody please confirm? I would rather chalk this down to bad experience than misrepresentation on my part.

Apologies in advance if I am incorrect.
 
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