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Wow....15 hour change.....crazy....

I'm going to invade your kangaroo forum dish.....no disrespect intended...I loves me a roo....lol....
Prepare the natives and shoot me a link where I can find y'all.
I apologize in advance:D...I'm a little crusty and completely soooooooooo not PC.....but I like to spread my special love around...
Link me up bro....

LOL we will be glad to have you mate, PC? whats PC...ha, AVF is great bunch, but PC we are not! I will say though, that we take a dim veiw on stealth vendors and spammers, oh you will find the usual high end v's clone debate can get a little heated, other than that go for it mate.

here ya go bro
AussieVapers | The original Australian e-cigarette community

It is a little quite there atm, being Sunday and all but anyone who is a vaper is more than welcome to join, heres the link to nicoticket thread as well
http://forums.aussievapers.com/e-cigarette-vaporization-ejuice-nicotine-e-liquids/13410-nicoticket-anyone.html
 
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The use of the word "troll" wasn't really appropriate. I wasn't rude, nor did I make any false allegations...I didn't bash you or your business- although I already knew the answer to the question before I posted it. Not really much to discuss; that's why I didn't bother coming over to your vendor forum.... you misrepresented H1N1 as being WTA- period. I can somewhat understand your explanation, but in the end... you were wrong. BTW, when I said "No, this is just more fun", I was really just referring to the word-play on H1N1. So... Relax; I'm not the bad guy here.

My apologies if I came off a bit harsh - certainly no slight intended. I wrote that at 5am this morning after a long evening of mixing, chatting, trolling the forums (yes, I do it too... guilty as charged)... and then that popped up and I was in "what now" mode. It's really born more out of frustration with the rules and process than it is with anything you said or did so don't take it as a personal jab or anything like that. Put yourself in my position - if I were able to post about you in a public forum but you had no way to respond to an inquiry, you would probably be a little frustrated. Mind you, that's not a shot at ECF or the moderators - if you look deep into my history you will see that I have been nothing short of supportive of the rules that are in place to ensure a level playing field in the highest traffic forums. All that said, it's frustrating as hell watching a bunch of conjecture unfold when, if I was allowed, I could have simply answered the question. I didn't lose any sleep over it, I hope you didn't either. You see where I am coming from though...

I think the portion of the wording you have taken up issue with is the "whole" portion of WTA. Whole implies, to some people, that at some point in the process there is a super concentrated vial of nothing but tobacco alkaloids. That's definitely not part of my process, nor will it ever be... honestly, I think it's kind of redundant... why go to the time and trouble of making a super-concentrated WTA solution and then proceed to dilute it? You get the idea... Mind you, I'm not knocking the process, and if consumers are willing to pay a premium price for it, I applaud the vendors and their respective wholesale partners (because most outsource the WTA component) for contributing to innovation and progress in the community at large. I've tried the end products also - products that contain Vapelicious and/or Aroma. Aroma, specifically, is breaking new ground and I can say with little hesitation that that are a wonderful company that anyone should consider trying - especially if they find "regular eliquid" to be unsatisfying enough to keep them off the alternative. Speaking of which - maybe you know the answer to this @Randy C - what's the deal with two different Vapelicious websites? Ie, vapelicious.com and ............. ? I don't get it.

Never thought you were a "bad guy" - hard to dislike a Garth Brooks fan. :)

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Vapemail! :banana: got my 50ml cls 20/80 6mg, vaping it on a rda with a .7Ω coil double strand 3mm cotton wick and holy cow! this stuff taste awesome! love the flavor, vapor, and the smell is just..wow! its so good I could eat my driptip :blink: lol thanks Kent!

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why go to the time and trouble of making a super-concentrated WTA solution and then proceed to dilute it?

WTA gets diluted down to, generally, anywhere from 25 mg (2.5%) to 12 mg (1.2%)--which is within the ballpark for comparable amounts of said alkaloids in cigarettes (just like how you refer to your nic levels as "ultra light," "light," "medium," "strong"--it's using cigarettes as the model). Diluting WTA (which is roughly 95% nicotine) is essentially governed by the same reasoning that you would dilute nicotine--safety.
 

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NEW DESCRIPTION FOR H1N1 - Feedback welcome.

***SHOTS ARE NOT AVAILABLE ON THIS PRODUCT - IT UNBALANCES THE LIQUID***

Where do I begin? First - you've never tasted anything like H1N1. The predominant notes depend entirely on the amount of steep time you put into it. Out of the mailbox, it tastes like a Snickers Candy Bar crossed with a Marlboro Light. There is a faint candy cinnamon flavor that resides underneath - enough to tantalize your taste-buds but not enough to distract you from the main event. Tobacco Absolute forms the foundation for the even bodied dry tobacco flavor, with a Naturally Extracted Tobacco (NET) blend gently inserted to give the liquid "legs." The NET component of the liquid takes steep time to emerge, but when it does, you will know it. It tastes a bit like maple syrup when it does emerge, and it continues to grow in body and texture through our testing period which is 8 weeks in length. We can not vouch for any changes in flavor profile beyond 8 weeks at the present time (8-1-2013), however, we do have some bottles steeping and will update this with details as they become available. The beauty of the liquid is that it is exceptionally well balanced.

*Testing indicates that 65/35 is a sweet spot for any clearomizer type tank system.

*If you plan on dripping H1N1, increase the VG and select 50/50, or lower your nicotine level because it will punch your throat hard in a 65/35. If you like a massive throat hit, leave it at 65/35. This is due in part to the Tobacco-specific N-nitrosamines (TSNAs) that are inherently part of the processing of Naturally Extracted Tobacco (NET). The limited amount of research that is currently availible indicates that the amount of TSNAs contained in NET eLiquids is little more than a 'trace' amount. We are committed to full transparency with regard to the contents of our liquids. Be forewarned, this liquid contains a Naturally Extracted Tobacco flavoring component that is not FEMA/GRAS approved.

*Despite the ample throat hit, it is a very smooth vape.

*No shots required - save your $$$ - it unbalances the liquid.

*Flavor Fusion is untested with two exceptions - Orange Mango & Raspberry - both performed well. Before you employ flavor fusion, we highly recommend you order the 15ml bottle of H1N1 without flavor fusion to ensure the base flavor profile is a good fit for your palate.

H1N1: Catch it before it catches you.





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H1N1 by nicoticket.com is 100% sourced and manufactured in the United States of America. All liquids are made-to-order by our master mixologist.

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Nicoticket eLiquid Ingredients:



USP Grade Kosher Certified Propylene Glycol (PG)
USP Grade Kosher Certified Vegetable Glycerin (VG)
DIACETYL FREE FLAVORING
99.7% pure nicotine derived from US grown tobacco and processed in the United States
Naturally Extracted Tobacco Flavoring derived from the Cold-Maceration process.
 

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NEW DESCRIPTION FOR H1N1 - Feedback welcome.

***SHOTS ARE NOT AVAILABLE ON THIS PRODUCT - IT UNBALANCES THE LIQUID***

Where do I begin? First - you've never tasted anything like H1N1. The predominant notes depend entirely on the amount of steep time you put into it. Out of the mailbox, it tastes like a Snickers Candy Bar crossed with a Marlboro Light. There is a faint candy cinnamon flavor that resides underneath - enough to tantalize your taste-buds but not enough to distract you from the main event. Tobacco Absolute forms the foundation for the even bodied dry tobacco flavor, with a Naturally Extracted Tobacco (NET) blend gently inserted to give the liquid "legs." The NET component of the liquid takes steep time to emerge, but when it does, you will know it. It tastes a bit like maple syrup when it does emerge, and it continues to grow in body and texture through our testing period which is 8 weeks in length. We can not vouch for any changes in flavor profile beyond 8 weeks at the present time (8-1-2013), however, we do have some bottles steeping and will update this with details as they become available. The beauty of the liquid is that it is exceptionally well balanced.

*Testing indicates that 65/35 is a sweet spot for any clearomizer type tank system.

*If you plan on dripping H1N1, increase the VG and select 50/50, or lower your nicotine level because it will punch your throat hard in a 65/35. If you like a massive throat hit, leave it at 65/35. This is due in part to the Tobacco-specific N-nitrosamines (TSNAs) that are inherently part of the processing of Naturally Extracted Tobacco (NET). The limited amount of research that is currently availible indicates that the amount of TSNAs contained in NET eLiquids is little more than a 'trace' amount. We are committed to full transparency with regard to the contents of our liquids. Be forewarned, this liquid contains a Naturally Extracted Tobacco flavoring component that is not FEMA/GRAS approved.

*Despite the ample throat hit, it is a very smooth vape.

*No shots required - save your $$$ - it unbalances the liquid.

*Flavor Fusion is untested with two exceptions - Orange Mango & Raspberry - both performed well. Before you employ flavor fusion, we highly recommend you order the 15ml bottle of H1N1 without flavor fusion to ensure the base flavor profile is a good fit for your palate.

H1N1: Catch it before it catches you.





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H1N1 by nicoticket.com is 100% sourced and manufactured in the United States of America. All liquids are made-to-order by our master mixologist.

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Nicoticket eLiquid Ingredients:



USP Grade Kosher Certified Propylene Glycol (PG)
USP Grade Kosher Certified Vegetable Glycerin (VG)
DIACETYL FREE FLAVORING
99.7% pure nicotine derived from US grown tobacco and processed in the United States
Naturally Extracted Tobacco Flavoring derived from the Cold-Maceration process.
I like it!!That should clear up any confusion brought on by lack of comprehension.:D
 

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I'm hoping to be able to make it.....50/50 right now.
I've got a tear down at Lewis and Clark landing and waiting for the "come and get it" call. Was hoping to have that call already...now it's getting dicey.

Damn.....got the call. Tear down .....at 3:00:facepalm:..
Y'all will have to handle it without me....:(

WTA gets diluted down to, generally, anywhere from 25 mg (2.5%) to 12 mg (1.2%)--which is within the ballpark for comparable amounts of said alkaloids in cigarettes (just like how you refer to your nic levels as "ultra light," "light," "medium," "strong"--it's using cigarettes as the model). Diluting WTA (which is roughly 95% nicotine) is essentially governed by the same reasoning that you would dilute nicotine--safety.

Totally agree Mr. Mann. Good explanation. I guess the part I don't understand is this, what is it about the WTA process that is different from a cold-maceration NET? Also, I guess I don't understand the common usage of the term WTA - WTA, in my mind, refers to the presence of carcinogens that are not otherwise present in commerically availible flavorless nicotine.

All I am searching for is an effective way to communicate to consumers the risks associated with vaping a liquid that contains naturally extracted tobacco flavoring if you get my drift.
 

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*If you plan on dripping H1N1, increase the VG and select 50/50, or lower your nicotine level because it will punch your throat hard in a 65/35. If you like a massive throat hit, leave it at 65/35. This is due in part to the Tobacco-specific N-nitrosamines (TSNAs) that are inherently part of the processing of Naturally Extracted Tobacco (NET).

Okay, first of all, I sincerely appreciate your openness to clarify what's up with your liquid. But, I wouldn't say that TSNAs are responsible for your liquids TH. The increase of TH, or the perceived increase of TH, is probably due to a high(er) amount of PG and, or, due to the fact that any chosen nic level will be roughly 1-2 mg higher nic than expecting, since, as we that vape NETs know, the flavor extraction will carry with it a little extra nic.
 

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I like it!!That should clear up any confusion brought on by lack of comprehension.:D

This is a work in progress. I don't know it all. I need the community to speak on how they would like to see something like this worded so that it communicates what needs to be said. I don't want to mislead anyone because there are carcinogens present in a NET that would not be otherwise present in a liquid with only GRAS/FEMA approved flavoring and commercially availible nicotine. The guys in the Natural Tobacco thread, Shatner, etc... those guy really should get feedback into how THEY would like to see this written. They are the experts IMHO - they live and breathe this stuff. H1N1 isn't my main focus - the Vanilla Bean steep is my area of expertise.
 

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Okay, first of all, I sincerely appreciate your openness to clarify what's up with your liquid. But, I wouldn't say that TSNAs are responsible for your liquids TH. The increase of TH, or the perceived increase of TH, is probably due to a high(er) amount of PG and, or, due to the fact that any chosen nic level will be roughly 1-2 mg higher nic than expecting, since, as we that vape NETs know, the flavor extraction will carry with it a little extra nic.

So, I should disclose that the nicotine content will be slightly higher than the chosen level - lower nicotine to compensate if desired?

How would you propose I disclose the presense of additional TSNAs that may be present due to the cold maceration NET? I mean - looking at the NET product, it seems probable (understated) that some of the carcinogens contained in whole leaf tobacco end up in the liquid. Know what I mean?
 

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Okay, first of all, I sincerely appreciate your openness to clarify what's up with your liquid. But, I wouldn't say that TSNAs are responsible for your liquids TH. The increase of TH, or the perceived increase of TH, is probably due to a high(er) amount of PG and, or, due to the fact that any chosen nic level will be roughly 1-2 mg higher nic than expecting, since, as we that vape NETs know, the flavor extraction will carry with it a little extra nic.

Also, thanks so much for your time and expertise in this area. I really am making a legit effort to ensure that the H1N1 product is accurately represented. I think I misunderstood the common usage of the term WTA.
 

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Maybe take these out as you already said no shots for the juice up above:

*No shots required - save your $$$ - it unbalances the liquid.

*Flavor Fusion is untested with two exceptions - Orange Mango & Raspberry - both performed well. Before you employ flavor fusion, we highly recommend you order the 15ml bottle of H1N1 without flavor fusion to ensure the base flavor profile is a good fit for your palate.
 

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I'm hoping to be able to make it.....50/50 right now.
I've got a tear down at Lewis and Clark landing and waiting for the "come and get it" call. Was hoping to have that call already...now it's getting dicey.

Damn.....got the call. Tear down .....at 3:00:facepalm:..
Y'all will have to handle it without me....:(

I didn't show up until 4:30 - left ole' gotalot holding the bag for an hour while I mixed liquid and ran to the post office. We had a good session though - talked shop, hung out at Husker Ecigs, and I got to play with his new REO. All I can say is WOW. That REO is a piece of art and I never should have tried one because now I want one too. LOL He had Boba's Bounty in it and it was rocking on his cotton wicked REOmizer - good honey tobacco flavor, not so much grapham cracker (but it's still very fresh). Speaking of fresh, I was looking forward to getting fresh with you Hawk (and Joel, lol).

I wanted to thank gotalotgoinon for the care package - he hooked a brother up. That little sample on the left... Boba's ;) WOOT WOOT.

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Totally agree Mr. Mann. Good explanation. I guess the part I don't understand is this, what is it about the WTA process that is different from a cold-maceration NET? Also, I guess I don't understand the common usage of the term WTA - WTA, in my mind, refers to the presence of carcinogens that are not otherwise present in commercially available flavorless nicotine.

All I am searching for is an effective way to communicate to consumers the risks associated with vaping a liquid that contains naturally extracted tobacco flavoring if you get my drift.

Nicotine is a predominant alkaloid in tobacco, just as anabasine, anatabine, norincotine, cotinine, etc., are minor alkaloids in tobacco. Those are not the carinogens. The carcinogens are different.

"Tobacco-specific nitrosamines are a group of carcinogens that are present in tobacco and tobacco smoke. They are formed from nicotine and related tobacco alkaloids. Two of the nicotine-derived nitrosamines, NNK and NNN, are strong carcinogens in laboratory animals." Hecht SS, Hoffmann D.

Source
American Health Foundation, Valhalla, NY 10595.

Now, what about the process makes it different than soaks or maceration of tobacco? That is best answered by Dvap. Dvap is the ultimate source on the matter (regarding vaping and WTA) and is luckily not bound to any specific forum on ECF. May there be carcinogens in WTA? Yes. May there be carcinogens in most NETs? Yes. Is it a given? No. A possibility? Yes. How much may be in either? Ask Mr. GC-MS! LOL.

Just remember, nicotine is an alkaloid, and WTA (whole tobacco alkaloids) is a product offering the original composition of all the alkaloids in tobacco to play in concert with, or sing background to, nicotine. Hell, some background singers ROCK! :headbang:
 
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